Jerry Colquitt critical of Dooley on starting Worley

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bleedorange0037 said:
I think he pretty well explained why he felt this way. You may disagree with it, but that doesn't mean he's necessarily wrong. Why don't you go ask Worley if he thinks he is glad he gave up one of his years as the starter just so he can start two games (maybe as many as 4 depending on what happens with Bray) in an already lost season?
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Here we go again with your bs talk of being the starting qb in 2015. Players want to play. Worley is fired up. That's what he came to do. You focus on today, not 4 years from now. That's ridiculous, and obviously shows you have no competitive side from playing ball, whatsoever.
 
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omghulkhands said:
1. The season is not lost

2. He can redshirt next year

3. you play to win the game (Herm Edwards voice)
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True, but sometimes you also have to pick your battles. IMO the ones in coming years are going to have a lot more meaning in the grand scheme of things than the ones over the next few weeks.
 
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Wow. A loss against south Carolina is inevitable? Sounds like someone is still bitter about Fulmer. Jmo
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bleedorange0037 said:
True, but sometimes you also have to pick your battles. IMO the ones in coming years are going to have a lot more meaning in the grand scheme of things than the ones over the next few weeks.
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Dooley needs to make sure he doesn't get fired by the time Worley would actually start. Therefore, he took Simms out.

But in all seriousness, it's not the end of the kid's career. He's going to be backing up Bray anyway...
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I think he pretty well explained why he felt this way. You may disagree with it, but that doesn't mean he's necessarily wrong. Why don't you go ask Worley if he thinks he is glad he gave up one of his years as the starter just so he can start two games (maybe as many as 4 depending on what happens with Bray) in an already lost season?
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:crazy::crazy:

You know we still have 5 or 6 games left, right?
 
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Zues1 said:
"It's one thing to be critical but this sounds like some personal beef Colquitt has w/ CDD... I always felt sympathy for Colquitt after his injury in '94 but now he's showing a real lack of class!"

Or maybe he is showing a former player of the games inside knowledge
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I am visiting my son in Johnson City and we will be there for the game.But I thought we could invite ole Jerry over for some fried taters and soup beans and get the inside scoop first hand.
 
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What is the "get this year back" argument? Maybe I missed it somewhere but can someone quote the "you will definitely start your RS Jr and Sr years" portion of Worley's scholarship offer? Worley has an opportunity to play now. The JOB of a coach is to try to over recruit every single player on the team... and UT is most defiinitely trying to do that at QB.

The very FACT that Dooley and staff put the kid in backed up to his own end zone is the CONSUMMATE demonstration of faith.

"Knee jerk"? If so... hoist one for knee jerk reactions. Simms stank out loud. He's been coached. He's been given one opportunity after another. He still stares down receivers. He is still indecisive and slow to deliver. He STILL CHOKES WHEN THE LIGHTS COME ON.

I am not trying to hurt Simms personally. He has undoubtedly put his heart into trying to be a good QB. The simple fact of the matter is he doesn't have "it".

I don't know about Worley... but don't necessarily buy the disinformation Dooley is putting out about "We don't know what we have with him". Obviously they don't "KNOW".... but if they weren't pretty sure he has something Simms doesn't have then they wouldn't be throwing him out there.

AND Cartervol is completely right. D Rogers was so disgusted with Simms' play that he couldn't hide it on the field. The D undoubtedly was tired of being put in bad positions by his terrible play.

Fulmer who Colquitt probably uses as his model for a "coach" lost teams for this very reason. Guys who were performing got tired of his tolerance for players and coaches who weren't. Above that... Jerry needs to take a quick look around. The game has changed and so have the personnel methods that work. People love to make negative comparisons to great coaches... so let's try this one: What would Saban have done in the same situation? Would he have continued to tolerate horrible QB play especially for a Sr whose experience cannot help the program in the future?

Lastly, this is a guy who ought to know better than to say the Bama game was caused by a lack of preparation much less in game adjustments. How do you adjust to a team that is better in every way than you are? How do you adjust offensively to more balance if your QB can't be trusted to throw the ball?
 
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Worley goes 10-20 with 1 INT and 1 TD and 150 yards would satisfy me..That a great game for Simms.
 
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For those saying the season is lost, pi&& on you! We can still finish 8-4 and go to a good bowl game! That is the reason to make the move if the coaches think it will help win. I for one would be tickled pink at 8-4 after the last few years!
 
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jerry pisses me off....nothings guarenteed....if i were worley i'd be pumped to get my shot on the field regardless of who we are playing or why i am in the game....shame on coach dooley for giving this kid a chance to play....i bet worley's parents are livid
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
You're right. I forgot about the Arkansas game. Worley is definitely going to start 3 games and then we'll see about Bray. Hopefully he'll be back by the Vandy game.
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Bray probably won't. If Worley does well enough, they won't rush him back onto the field.
 
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So I suppose this means that when Jerry was a sophmore (or freshman, it doesn't matter), if given the opportunity to start, he would have declined and told CPF it was not fair to him to give him a chance to start.

Now, I understand.
 
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Why do people in Tennessee suck so bad at math? What is this "deny him the opportunity to start for two years" business?

Bray isn't going to stay for his Senior year. Worley will start his Junior and Senior year... 1 + 1 = 2. It is VERY common for college QBs to start for 2 years. I don't know the statistics but I'd be surprised if the norm is more or less than that.

Also.. let's assume Worley would have redshirted and started as a sophomore and then as a junior. Who's to say he wouldn't leave for the NFL before his senior season?

Also.. let's assume Worley would have redshirted and Tennessee goes 5-7 followed by back to back 7-5 seasons.. Dooley most likely would be fired and Worley would be learning a new offense in 2014 as a senior. How fair would that be?

Also.. let's assume Dooley stuck with Simms all the way up to the Vanderbilt game. The game is tied and we are fighting for a bowl appearance when all of a sudden.. Simms gets hurt enough that he has to come out of the game. Dooley has no choice to burn Worley's redshirt and looking back we're all like "dang it. i bet we could have beat south carolina with worley at qb."

The moral of the story is this. Play to win the game and you'll have less regrets. I understand the importance of building toward the future but at some point you have to WIN. Dooley is wrapping up his 2nd year as head coach and if he doesn't start winning, he won't be around to see Worley start a game in 2014 wheter it be as a junior or as a senior. His time to start winning is NOW. It sucks that Worley is losing his redshirt in the process but right now the most important thing to Tennessee's football program and the most important thing to Dooley as a husband and father is for Tennessee to play in a bowl game.
 
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pl3 said:
Here we go again with your bs talk of being the starting qb in 2015. Players want to play. Worley is fired up. That's what he came to do. You focus on today, not 4 years from now. That's ridiculous, and obviously shows you have no competitive side from playing ball, whatsoever.
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Exactly. Besides, if Worley is any kind of competitor at all, he should feel like this is his opportunity to earn the starting job for the rest of this year and beyond.

Beisdes, like Cartervol stated a few pages back, I think Dooley had to make this change because Simms was beginning to lose the rest of the team.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
True, but sometimes you also have to pick your battles. IMO the ones in coming years are going to have a lot more meaning in the grand scheme of things than the ones over the next few weeks.
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so he redshirts next season while Bray plays. Basically his freshman and sophomore seasons are switched and nothing is wasted.

Why is this such a big deal? Did Colquitt come out and bash Fulmer for burning both Manning and Stewart's redshirts in 94?
 
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What if Peterman beats him out? Worley could be playing the only games of his career this year. There are so many variables to this RS theory.
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bleedorange0037 said:
I think he pretty well explained why he felt this way. You may disagree with it, but that doesn't mean he's necessarily wrong. Why don't you go ask Worley if he thinks he is glad he gave up one of his years as the starter just so he can start two games (maybe as many as 4 depending on what happens with Bray) in an already lost season?
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Can you cite the written guarantee to Worley that he would ever start much less start his last two years?

Peterman looks like an exceptional QB prospect. While it does not look like a banner year for QB's in FL, Rivals has him listed as the best QB in the state. Scout agrees.

There is absolutely no question that if UT has the WR's we think they will have next fall AND Bray rips it up like he should... that UT will become a destination of choice for top QB's.

In short... there is absolutely no guarantee that Worley would EVER start for UT. He has a great opportunity to mark his turf now.
 
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volfan_28 said:
Why do people in Tennessee suck so bad at math? What is this "deny him the opportunity to start for two years" business?

Bray isn't going to stay for his Senior year. Worley will start his Junior and Senior year... 1 + 1 = 2. It is VERY common for college QBs to start for 2 years. I don't know the statistics but I'd be surprised if the norm is more or less than that.

Also.. let's assume Worley would have redshirted and started as a sophomore and then as a junior. Who's to say he wouldn't leave for the NFL before his senior season?

Also.. let's assume Worley would have redshirted and Tennessee goes 5-7 followed by back to back 7-5 seasons.. Dooley most likely would be fired and Worley would be learning a new offense in 2014 as a senior. How fair would that be?

Also.. let's assume Dooley stuck with Simms all the way up to the Vanderbilt game. The game is tied and we are fighting for a bowl appearance when all of a sudden.. Simms gets hurt enough that he has to come out of the game. Dooley has no choice to burn Worley's redshirt and looking back we're all like "dang it. i bet we could have beat south carolina with worley at qb."

The moral of the story is this. Play to win the game and you'll have less regrets. I understand the importance of building toward the future but at some point you have to WIN. Dooley is wrapping up his 2nd year as head coach and if he doesn't start winning, he won't be around to see Worley start a game in 2014 wheter it be as a junior or as a senior. His time to start winning is NOW. It sucks that Worley is losing his redshirt in the process but right now the most important thing to Tennessee's football program and the most important thing to Dooley as a husband and father is for Tennessee to play in a bowl game.
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Great post. I couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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He keeps talking about feeling sorry for Worley but I'm sure that Worley is ecstatic to be starting, especially against SC. Did we not bring Worley to UT to play football?
 
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another point of view could be. what if over the rest of the season Worley just doesn't have it (I'm not predicting this just saying its possible). It would be better to find out now rather than later. we could still go out and try and get a 2nd QB in this recruiting class.
 
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