Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

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RandomUTfan said:
Frank had been grooming him to take over when he retired. That could have been the end of the year. I don't know how long he really planned on going. It wasn't more than a couple. It's a new day. Change is the only part of life that is inevitable. Seems a waste of time to do anything other than embrace it.
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The huge pull with Tony and the Giants is he gets to stay around the game in a less frenetic pace and develop pitchers. All along with job security and a raise, prolly keeps him non-retired for a decade+.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
That's the sign of an AD who doesn't understand the job. Running a coaching search like Auburn.

Hire the best candidate, sell it to the donors, then sell it to the fan base. Your job is those three things, in that order.

What exactly are you getting paid for if you think your job is to hire someone like it's a democracy? You can set up a Twitter poll for free.
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Yep… DW didn’t win the press conference with Heup or Caldwell but they have proven to be good hires. Trying to win the press conference and you end up being a dysfunctional mess.
 
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jave36 said:
Josh >>>>> Schiano for sure.

But Schiano would have been a decent coach here, far better than what we got. I actually liked his resume quite a bit, but I just hated the idea of anyone connected to Sandusky being our coach. I don't know enough facts to say he had any guilt in the situation, but just being there was enough to make me not want him as the face of our program.

I don't know a whole lot of people who believed, even at the time, that Pruitt was a better football coach than Schiano. The guy had literally never been a HC at any level, not even high school. I hated that hire at the time too, but the Schiano thing had nothing to with football for me. What he did at Rutgers was more impressive than what Cignetti is doing at Indiana now. I get it didn't last and he hasn't replicated that success again, but the run he had there was miraculous, and he could have been successful here I think.
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The only way Schiano does better than Pruitt is if he tossed JG to the curb and got a good QB. If he had the same QB group....would've been the same disaster.

Schiano is no offensive guru, he's no recruiting savant. We would've had a similar scheme that would have given us zero advantages against the equal to more talented programs we play. Would've had that with a massive disadvantage at QB.

We may have beaten Georgia St because I imagine Greg would have actually gameplanned for them. Unlike Pruitt, who did not lol
 
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butchna said:
The huge pull with Tony and the Giants is he gets to stay around the game in a less frenetic pace and develop pitchers. All along with job security and a raise, prolly keeps him non-retired for a decade+.
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162 games isn't a frenetic pace?

as a member of the red hat society, you should know that its all about the grind if having to reload every 3 months.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
The only way Schiano does better than Pruitt is if he tossed JG to the curb and got a good QB. If he had the same QB group....would've been the same disaster.

Schiano is no offensive guru, he's no recruiting savant. We would've had a similar scheme that would have given us zero advantages against the equal to more talented programs we play. Would've had that with a massive disadvantage at QB.

We may have beaten Georgia St because I imagine Greg would have actually gameplanned for them. Unlike Pruitt, who did not lol
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Schiano is better at every single aspect of coaching than Pruitt. It would have been world's of difference.
 
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Jack Burton said:
The current discussion is more about not running off someone who is expressing an unpopular opinion.
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why would anyone be so soft that they leave if someone doesn’t like their opinion? I’m gonna take my ball and go home and throwing around words like crucified is a bit dramatic.

I’m not one to call out people for their information/misinformation. I can take it with a grade of slaw either way. I also don’t like that some folks with good information have been “ran off”. At the same time, it’s a message board. There are gonna be all types of people. Positive, negative, “realists”, trolls, intelligent, unintelligent, snarky, sarcastic, jerks. So knowing that, other than wanting people to praise you and like you, why would anyone put enough value on another posters comments toward them to make you (not you, in general) want to leave?
 
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butchna said:
The huge pull with Tony and the Giants is he gets to stay around the game in a less frenetic pace and develop pitchers. All along with job security and a raise, prolly keeps him non-retired for a decade+.
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Yeah, you're right. I had considered that. I was just talking strictly about the Tennessee position. Several guys covering the team knew Frank's time was limited in Knoxville.
 
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LaagerVol said:
why would anyone be so soft that they leave if someone doesn’t like their opinion? I’m gonna take my ball and go home and throwing around words like crucified is a bit dramatic.

I’m not one to call out people for their information/misinformation. I can take it with a grade of slaw either way. I also don’t like that some folks with good information have been “ran off”. At the same time, it’s a message board. There are gonna be all types of people. Positive, negative, “realists”, trolls, intelligent, unintelligent, snarky, sarcastic, jerks. So knowing that, other than wanting people to praise you and like you, why would anyone put enough value on another posters comments toward them to make you (not you, in general) want to leave?
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Grade of slaw is a healthy way to look at it. This forum is more interesting when people can share opinions, rumors, predictions without it spiraling into name calling or the “no true Vol fan would post that” typical response. I just think it’s better if we operate from a basic good faith perspective.
 
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jave36 said:
Schiano is better at every single aspect of coaching than Pruitt. It would have been world's of difference.
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Yes instead of catapulting us to relevance it would have delayed the inevitable. We miss on Danny, get called perverts, and live in 6-6 death hell for 10 more years.
 
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SSVol said:
Recruiting is about the future. People drawn to it are generally more positive and always will be. Those who come here and complain about that fact should read the room. There is another forum that focuses on the past. They might be more comfortable there.
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I find I'm way more happier when I'm existing fully in the present moment. Not worried about the future or regretful of the past. It's not easy.
 
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PowerT. said:
Is Vandy about to flip Curtis ??


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Yes, I have thought so since they first emerged as a threat. SEC fans are really slow on the take to this but UF fans have been saying "We're Vandy now" for 3 years. Meanwhile, Vany isn't the Same 'Ol Vandy.

People here laughed when I suggested of our semi-permanent opponents that Vandy game is going to end up the toughest out the next 4 years.
 
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