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BeardedVol said:
The Bill of Rights covers all 'persons' in the United States, so yes someone here on a visa has a 1st amendment right to speak as they see fit without government retaliation.

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Bridges v. Wixon (1945)

Bridges v. Wixon (1945) ruled that the U.S. could not deport a legal immigrant for his Communist Party affiliation. The Court said legal aliens had First Amendment rights.
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Amazing how quickly MAGAs go from being "lovers of the constitution" to completely disregarding it.
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I would say much of the court's position revolves around the factual elements, not one of a clear inability of the U.S. to eject.

I would suggest one actually read the case, not what someone is saying the case is.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/326/135/

Even Americans have limitations on free speech, meaning if an American is being paid than its commercial speech for instance. Which is why Hunter Biden was eventually going to be charged as an unlicensed Foreign Agent.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I would say much of the court's position revolves around the factual elements, not one of a clear inability of the U.S. to eject.

I would suggest one actually read the case, not what someone is saying the case is.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/326/135/

Even Americans have limitations on free speech, meaning if an American is being paid than its commercial speech for instance. Which is why Hunter Biden was eventually going to be charged as an unlicensed Foreign Agent.
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Their visas weren't cancelled because they were unregistered foreign agents.

You know this, 0/10 on your deflection attempt.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Their visas weren't cancelled because they were unregistered foreign agents.

You know this, 0/10 on your deflection attempt.
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I never said that, but I would say its clear you haven't read the case you cite.


Accordingly, it is unnecessary for us to consider the larger constitutional questions
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BeardedVol said:
The Bill of Rights covers all 'persons' in the United States, so yes someone here on a visa has a 1st amendment right to speak as they see fit without government retaliation.

firstamendment.mtsu.edu

Bridges v. Wixon (1945)

Bridges v. Wixon (1945) ruled that the U.S. could not deport a legal immigrant for his Communist Party affiliation. The Court said legal aliens had First Amendment rights.
firstamendment.mtsu.edu firstamendment.mtsu.edu

Amazing how quickly MAGAs go from being "lovers of the constitution" to completely disregarding it.
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It's not an apples to apples comparison. Have you read the details on that case? The problem was a lack of evidence:

In 1939, the United States Government initiated deportation proceedings against Bridges, alleging he was a communist. The attempt failed due to a lack of evidence that Bridges had ever held formal membership in the Communist Party. In 1940, the United States Congress passed the Smith Act, which — among other things — allowed the deportation of an alien on the basis of their affiliation with an organization advocating the overthrow of the United States Government.
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Bridges v. Wixon - Wikipedia

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There was nothing they could pin on this guy other than innuendo. I agree that's not enough to deport someone. In other words, he didn't say anything on the record that they could use as a reason for his deportation.

In today's case, they have that evidence
 
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Vol8188 said:
No one is fining them. No one is charging them with a crime. But they also have no right to be here.

The snowflake comment is just purely retarded.

Why do you care so deeply about keeping people who openly support terrorism in our country?
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I misses something somewhere, what did people do to "openly support terrorism "?
 
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Sea Ray said:
It's not an apples to apples comparison. Have you read the details on that case? The problem was a lack of evidence:



Bridges v. Wixon - Wikipedia

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There was nothing they could pin on this guy other than innuendo. I agree that's not enough to deport someone. In other words, he didn't say anything on the record that they could use as a reason for his deportation.

In today's case, they have that evidence
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I would say whatever that insane Beard is implying i.e. everyone has the same Rights, as a generalization is legally retarded. Under that theory, anyone that gets into the country legally or illegally can't be deported or ejected because we have all the same Rights. 😂

He goes around this forum and all he does is google something and posts it all day long. Well, any idiot can do that, and in this case does.
 
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Sea Ray said:
Where in the Constitution does it say that our gov't can't revoke visas? If you act like an ass while visiting our country, we should have the right to say we don't want you here. We're not charging you with a crime or anything. We're just saying "you're not welcome here anymore"
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Same place it says we cant have 20 round AR's..
 
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BeardedVol said:
The Bill of Rights covers all 'persons' in the United States, so yes someone here on a visa has a 1st amendment right to speak as they see fit without government retaliation.

firstamendment.mtsu.edu

Bridges v. Wixon (1945)

Bridges v. Wixon (1945) ruled that the U.S. could not deport a legal immigrant for his Communist Party affiliation. The Court said legal aliens had First Amendment rights.
firstamendment.mtsu.edu firstamendment.mtsu.edu

Amazing how quickly MAGAs go from being "lovers of the constitution" to completely disregarding it.
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Constitution only applies when their feelings arent being hurt and/or their guy is trampling over it. Id like to see Trump make flag burning mandatory after every pledge of allegiance. MAGA would die....or more than likely rationalize it like they do everything Trumples does and get in lock step with their orange king.
 
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Vol8188 said:
That’s always been the case on both sides. You just didn’t mind when it was your side.



MAGA is right about that



You don’t think we understand that government doesn’t earn a profit?



Is this your style in general? Just mindless rants that are only semirelated to what you’re even responding to?
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Dude. I'm a Republican. Except I love abortion and hate Jesus. Youre response isn't high level enough for me to really respond to via cellphone while I'm working for no pay right now. Dumb it down for me.

Also Im posting when I wake up at 4am so the morning caffeine and testosterone rush is ramping up.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Constitution only applies when their feelings arent being hurt and/or their guy is trampling over it. Id like to see Trump make flag burning mandatory after every pledge of allegiance. MAGA would die....or more than likely rationalize it like they do everything Trumples does and get in lock step with their orange king.
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The easiest way of getting thrown out of a Court is to yell Constitution this and Constitution that.

If everyone has the same Rights than under that theory you really have no federal or state government. But continue on with the TDS rant.

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Vol8188 said:
No one is fining them. No one is charging them with a crime. But they also have no right to be here.

The snowflake comment is just purely retarded.

Why do you care so deeply about keeping people who openly support terrorism in our country?
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Laughing at someone's murder is supporting terrorism? Since when? Low class sure. But not "deportation " worthy. Remember that D grade actress who held a fake Trump severed head? Lots here screaming for her deportation or imprisonment. If bad taste and no class were a crime, Trump would be decades into serving a life sentence.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The easiest way of getting thrown out of a Court is to yell Constitution this and Constitution that.

If everyone has the same Rights than under that theory you really have no federal or state government. But continue on with the TDS rant.

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Only citizens should have rights protected by the constitution. But that ain't the world we live in.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
As a generalization, the United States sets the conditions of foreigners entering the country. The U.S. can revoke all visas if it wishes.
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The government can do a lot of stupid stuff if it wishes. Having good leadership means not doing a lot of stupid stuff. Playing tinpot dictator with things like visas is stupid stuff.
 
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EasternVol said:
The government can do a lot of stupid stuff if it wishes. Having good leadership means not doing a lot of stupid stuff. Playing tinpot dictator with things like visas is stupid stuff.
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And being mentality ill and not understanding context and scope is a problem for some. If you believe this makes someone a dictator, I would say you are mentality ill.

I can't help you with all that. Regardless, anyone believing what Beard is implying or saying is mentality ill, stupid, or a paid or unpaid bot of some type.

That isn't how any of this works.
 
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