Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Kristy*]

That's not what I said. I said it's always possible, but the NCAA needs something concrete to begin an investigation. Fans always think other teams are cheating but that's not sufficient evidence.

It is now a presumption of guilt without proof.

Bylaw 19.7.3: In cases involving name, image and likeness offers, agreements and/or activities in which related communications and conduct are subject to NCAA regulation, the infractions process shall presume a violation occurred if circumstantial information suggests that one or more parties engaged in impermissible conduct. The enforcement staff may make a formal allegation based on the presumption. The hearing panel shall conclude a violation occurred unless the institution or involved individual clearly demonstrates with credible and sufficient information that all communications and conduct surrounding the name, image and likeness activity complied with NCAA legislation.

You guys are very passionate about your rivals cheating and I expect it and have seen it on every sports message board I've ever read. But just to reiterate, I'm not talking about who is cheating or who I think could be cheating, including UGA. I'm talking about evidence of cheating, since Weezer questioned why the NCAA didn't investigate UGA for paying Washington and Mims. What Jeremy Pruitt did at Tennessee is not evidence of cheating anywhere else. Success is not evidence of cheating; if it was nobody would want to be successful in recruiting or on the field.

As you say, they're not going to show me any evidence and I haven't seen any evidence. But, the NCAA could announce an investigation into UGA tomorrow, and then I'd know that there was some evidence that warranted an investigation.

The NCAA doesn't need evidence. They choose the desired outcome and move the goalposts to manufacture the evidence - against the schools of their choosing. It's easier to see the corruption when constantly in the crosshairs.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Zoom in a little closer on that Seattle pic.

TY. I wondered who was going to do that. Figured McGill would just give some vivid descriptions!

 

[knoxvol52]

Might wanna double check your memory bud

Either that or Joakim Noah's life is a Mandela Effect

Yea I typed the wrong year..but anyways point is they won SEC title and National title in same year 2006-2007 .

 

[SweetasSoda]

Maybe Chip Kelly has started a new trend and Napier will see the writing on the wall and follow.

Hope he stays, makes them fire him in the middle of the season and have to pay his buyout! Not seeing why AL would want him either.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Yea I typed the wrong year..but anyways point is they won SEC title and National title in same year 2006-2007 .

Tennessee won 3 out of 4 during the gatas "back to back" championship seasons.


*Those were some of the absolute best games from the Bruce Pearl era. The 05/06 team Bruce inherited was fun to watch.

Lofton
Bradshaw
Smith
Watson
Patterson
Wingate
Asumnu


That's why I don’t trash Bruce Pearl.... he made me really care about UT basketball.


**I was midcourt, upper deck (on the 3 or 4th row of the metal bleachers, where the private boxes are now). That was one of my favorite nights in all my years of being a VOL fan. TBA got wild that evening.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

Zoom in a little closer on that Seattle pic.

There are areas of Knoxville that look just as bad as this. Every major town in America has this problem. It’s sad, but reality.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Maybe Chip Kelly has started a new trend and Napier will see the writing on the wall and follow.

$32 Million in buyout money. He isn’t quitting

 

[Orange.]

Deboer stepping up to one aspect of Saban's legacy. Trick away their options!

 

[jakez4ut]

OU at 7.5… our early season match up is a big one

So many hooks...

 

[jakez4ut]

Vegas needs a prop bet for the number of times we hear the name Jim during the Super Bowl

 

[mr.checkerboards]

 

[jakez4ut]

NCAA selectively chooses which schools to go after with no rhyme or reason. They are very reactive and not proactive. Huge problem there.

They go after wins. And only if a win doesn't hurt the pocket book.

 

[VolsLFC]

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It is now a presumption of guilt without proof.

Bylaw 19.7.3: In cases involving name, image and likeness offers, agreements and/or activities in which related communications and conduct are subject to NCAA regulation, the infractions process shall presume a violation occurred if circumstantial information suggests that one or more parties engaged in impermissible conduct. The enforcement staff may make a formal allegation based on the presumption. The hearing panel shall conclude a violation occurred unless the institution or involved individual clearly demonstrates with credible and sufficient information that all communications and conduct surrounding the name, image and likeness activity complied with NCAA legislation.



The NCAA doesn't need evidence. They choose the desired outcome and move the goalposts to manufacture the evidence - against the schools of their choosing. It's easier to see the corruption when constantly in the crosshairs.

 

[Orange.]

Well, this is par for the course for those assholes.

Bama's treatment of players by Saban and now the DeBoer regime is a stark contrast to Heupel fighting for the rights of players. His statement yesterday was excellent. If only we had a non-hostile media outlet to consider the two side by side.

 

[Jackcrevol]

View attachment 618846

It is now a presumption of guilt without proof.

Bylaw 19.7.3: In cases involving name, image and likeness offers, agreements and/or activities in which related communications and conduct are subject to NCAA regulation, the infractions process shall presume a violation occurred if circumstantial information suggests that one or more parties engaged in impermissible conduct. The enforcement staff may make a formal allegation based on the presumption. The hearing panel shall conclude a violation occurred unless the institution or involved individual clearly demonstrates with credible and sufficient information that all communications and conduct surrounding the name, image and likeness activity complied with NCAA legislation.



The NCAA doesn't need evidence. They choose the desired outcome and move the goalposts to manufacture the evidence - against the schools of their choosing. It's easier to see the corruption when constantly in the crosshairs.

The NCAA doesn't need evidence. They choose the desired outcome and move the goalposts to manufacture the evidence - against the schools of their choosing. It's easier to see the corruption when constantly in the crosshairs

This. And, absolutely every day all day 24/7/365.

The absolute power they pretend to wield, when in reality its all case by case. A broad stroke if 400+ page manual of rules that changes daily. Absolute & unfettered inaction that causes a mess, then half cocked attempts to regain power, holding only those who listen to you to account.

Their cowardly, vindictive, and spiteful manner by how they conduct business has me saying....eff it all. Even if CFB is an absolute train wreck for a few years. Burn it all down.

a) cant be much worse than it is
b) the ncaa is a joke

 

[Kristy*]

There are areas of Knoxville that look just as bad as this. Every major town in America has this problem. It’s sad, but reality.

I have never seen anything like this in Knoxville. . .

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

The NIL, the portal, etc...players play games, too. It's just how college/minor league football works now. Got no sympathy for either side. Just bizness now.

The only side I sympathize with is the fans...we are the ones that have to take everybody's scummy mercenary ...and according to some idiots that is perfectly all right, because fans(you know...the ones that actually make ALL of this possible) and what is best for them don't matter one f'n iota.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Gettin married today.. it’s a Tennessee wedding so I’m hoping that encourages extra whoop assery for our opposition.

Congratulations...I hope you have a happy marriage.

 

[InVOLuntary]

There are areas of Knoxville that look just as bad as this. Every major town in America has this problem. It’s sad, but reality.

Never said it wasn't but to paint Seattle as this bastion of utopia is disingenuous. Also, Seattle's problems are worse in many respects. And like most large cities, it's self inflicted.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Makes you appreciate how Heupel handles his business. There have been multiple players/recruits that have said our coaches are honest. That’s probably why you see the staff not pursuing kids who aren’t honest with them.

It aggravates me that that jackass Seaton was evidently able to con them. I'm glad that we learned it now instead of later though.

 

[Govolsman98]

Wisconsin's a pile of crap again

 

[thistime]

I've read a bunch of post about who has paid this player or that player and on and on. The bottom lone is that EVERY MAJOR COLLEGE has paid players in one way or another. New cars, houses or jobs for the parents, the little envelopes handed out by the unknown guy outside the dorm...you get the idea. It's nothing new but now it is somewhat legal and that is just how it is.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I have never seen anything like this in Knoxville. . .

Knoxville has their homeless camps. I've served them food. It's nowhere near the level of Seattle. There's many in Seattle leaving because of it.

 

[Jackcrevol]

There are areas of Knoxville that look just as bad as this. Every major town in America has this problem. It’s sad, but reality.

if there are areas of knoxville like this, such as a homeless camp. it's likely not in the public eye, and somewhere in a wooded area.

I highly doubt the accuracy of your claim as I routinely drive through all areas of Knox good and bad.