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[volbeast33]

 

[LA Vol]

This is a predicament of their own creation (the schools not the fans). A little forethought and we likely never reach this point.

If people stop paying then the same thing would happen if people stopped paying at any point in the past. The market would change. This is a business industry. Industries evolve. Or they die.

Yes, and get ready for the evolution. Collectives must collect from someone-- and it's not the schools. The entire paradigm is fundamentally unsustainable on many levels. The NCAA is a dinosaur.

 

[agent|orange]

@LA Vol

Why does it seem like our big boosters are hesitant about helping with NIL? The support of common fans is nice, but NIL really needs the big boosters to push it.

Perhaps I have a jaded view on things but boosters like dropping money on the school (academics or athletics) because it gives them a form of control and legacy. They get their name on a building or they get their name paraded around as a "big money donor". Also, it's a tax write-off.

With funding NILs there is none of the aforementioned. It's money that goes directly to the pockets of an 18-22yo kid. And AFAIK the kid doesn't even have to stay at the University so from a donation perspective it's a lose-lose.

 

[BigSteve09]

Is USA winning today?

I think that the Iran players are playing for their lives. They'll be singing the hell out of their anthem this time, that's for sure.

 

[Dewey]

Great season so far! Love this show

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Very progressive of him to hire a tranny for that role.

 

[BigSteve09]

Very progressive of him to hire a tranny for that role.

I take it that you don't watch White Lotus

 

[jakez4ut]

hilarious

 

[LA Vol]

@LA Vol

Why does it seem like our big boosters are hesitant about helping with NIL? The support of common fans is nice, but NIL really needs the big boosters to push it.

UT has a lot of buckets and has asked donors and boosters to fund many things-- facilities, academics and endowments. You can only tap people for so much. NIL is a way fans can help, and DW has set up other fan initiatives, as well.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

I take it that you don't watch White Lotus

Never heard of it.

 

[drvenner]

Because there are a ton of non Auburn fans posting on Twitter.

I am sure there are. A ton of our fans do. They have their crazies like we have ours.

 

[BigSteve09]

Never heard of it.

It's a great show. First season was great. Second season is coming along. The casting is very, very good.

 

[drvenner]

I love Apison
I used to have buddy that lived there in early 80s and we hunted, shot guns, and rode off roadside

Why would you ride off the side of the road?

 

[jave36]

Beasley has turned into a pretty decent LB

ehhh, in run defense yes, he's decent. He's horrific in pass defense. There are times he doesn't even know if he's in man or zone (or he's not smart enough to know how to act in either situation). We can upgrade across the board at LB.

 

[drvenner]

Posters want every player in the portal regardless of position

NEED

 

[drvenner]

It doesn’t matter about production either if they were rated high at one time.

Yeah, I love those former 5* RB who have 9 carries for 21 yards and one FL in 3 years.

 

[Weezer]

UT has a lot of buckets and has asked donors and boosters to fund many things-- facilities, academics and endowments. You can only tap people for so much. NIL is a way fans can help, and DW has set up other fan initiatives, as well.

Without the big boosters filling the NIL coffers, we'll fall behind on that front and have a tougher time bringing in top talent. I get that the university itself asks a lot of them, but the university also makes more money with winning football.

 

[drvenner]

Today is all about the USA

Let’s go!!!! Must win.

I believe that we will win!!!!!!

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

That ain't real

 

[LA Vol]

@LA Vol

Would have Banks, others have been eligible if we'd have made it to the playoff?

Could have impacted player motivation and opt-outs, but the Chancellor is all over academics.

 

[drvenner]

Hyatt is the first ever UT finalist.

Final 3. Vote early. Vote often.

 

[jave36]

Perhaps I have a jaded view on things but boosters like dropping money on the school (academics or athletics) because it gives them a form of control and legacy. They get their name on a building or they get their name paraded around as a "big money donor". Also, it's a tax write-off.

With funding NILs there is none of the aforementioned. It's money that goes directly to the pockets of an 18-22yo kid. And AFAIK the kid doesn't even have to stay at the University so from a donation perspective it's a lose-lose.

NILs are written so the player no longer receives any money if they leave the school. Your point has some validity, but other schools' boosters don't seem to be having the reservations that ours do. Ole Miss collective is over $10M in NIL, and they didn't get there just from thousands of ordinary fans. Texas A&M didn't buy the #1 class without big booster help. Like it or not, big boosters' money will turn into wins on the field via NIL moreso than donating to the athletic department.

And if they own the business, they can write off NIL as an advertising/marketing expense, so the write offs shouldn't be holding them back.

 

[LA Vol]

Without the big boosters filling the NIL coffers, we'll fall behind on that front and have a tougher time bringing in top talent. I get that the university itself asks a lot of them, but the university also makes more money with winning football.

Sometimes they earmark funds; sometimes they contribute where the university asks them to contribute. BMDs often contribute to both academic and athletic facilities. Always have.

 

[drvenner]

it doesn't help that our fans got wind of, pried into, and then absolutely blasted out to the rest of the world that there was a fight in the locker room

I'm not saying it's the fans' fault that national media were questioning our culture, but social media and the boards were buzzing with Vols fans telling anyone and everyone about a fight in the locker room

If you propagate the rumor, it is as much your fault as anyone else's.

 

[volbeast33]