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butchna said:
Best explanation. Suggesting that the NCAA has realistic wiggle room to take back control is denial in liquid form. 9-0 decision from a Court with divisive philosophical difference is glaring. If a collective is smart and well researched (like Spyre) they can easily avoid using university tie-ins. Genies…bottles…use own analogies at will. As I’ve referenced before, self-declared legal experts ran rampant on this board after both Gates…Schiano and Pruitt. We were going to dish out 20’s of millions in legal and punitive damages and any arguments otherwise are ignorant…we’re lawyers with a VN account! 😉
Business of Football: Supreme Court Sends Message to NCAA
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Thanks. That led me to the Alston decision: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-512_gfbh.pdf

MKEvol said:
You seem to have a hard time grasping that SCOTUS has only ruled in regards to educational benefits, not NIL. And I have repeatedly said that they have not, because they have not. I asked for the case that directly dealt with NIL and you pointed me back to O'Bannon, which does not address NIL. So keep believing that you know how this all plays out, and the NCAA is toothless. Just don't be surprised when the NCAA enacts NIL regulations - I tried to warn you.
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It's clear that the Alston holding doesn't touch anything but "education-related benefits".

NIL's a brand-new ball game, and we won't know what the Court will do with it until they address it.
 
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Finally caught up!
1.Baseball…okay as long as it’s Tennessee, I can enjoy it.
2. NIL…was against that. Y’all said Tennessee is going to lead. Okay, I will live. But it has to go now? All this media storm that it’s here to stay is really only until it’s tried in court after a few years? Y’all better make sure it doesn’t happen until Saban is gone just because.
3. Golf….just no
4. Saudi Arabia….not reading any of that

Thank you to those who brought a little football news. Good night, Vol fans.
 
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gordonr24 said:
Florida does not get talked about enough for having terrible fan support. For being a blueblood and a “flagship” school of the SEC, their support is lackluster. Arkansas, South Carolina, Kentucky, and the Mississippi schools support all of their sports combined better than Florida.
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Older UF fans in Gainesville support their team but the students are mostly from other parts of the state or out of state and only care about football mostly. And they really only care about that when they are a championship contender or are playing FSU, Miami or UGA.
 
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SoilVol said:
Very cool read. Did you ever find it ironic that your grandparents were psychiatrists and your parents were schizophrenic? Genuinely curious.
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Very ironic and I had many philosophical discussions with my grandfather about medicine (his philosophy) vs. therapy (my philosophy) from a pre-teen on. Interesting to note that my grandfather analyzed the famous poet Ezra Pound while he was still practicing in D.C. Psychiatry was very primitive until the 1980's and there were a lot of misguided practices but he was a very respected member of his field and was one of the first doctors in the 50's to treat black people in East TN and he did volunteer work every year in Middlesboro, KY with former coal miners. He was a great man and president of the AMA in TN for a while. He was very humble and I didn't learn about a lot of his accomplishments until his funeral but I always knew that he was v÷ry respected in the community.

It was very confusing and at times embarrassing for me as a child to have a mentally ill mother. She would hallucinate and act out at home, in public and at school functions or in front of my friends and their families. She was very paranoid and thought I wanted other mothers and even women on TV to be my mother and would go into a rage and lash out at me and sometimes get physically violent until I was big enough to stop her around 9-10 years old. There's no way in today's society that I would have been allowed to be raised by her. From a young age I often had to be the responsible adult while she threw hysterical tantrums like a child. It did help me to be very patient and understanding of others so some good came of it. I pitied both of my parents for all they went through....including barbaric electric shock therapy. They were both very high IQ late teens in college and had bright futures before their illness hit. Mother was getting her masters in teaching Spanish from UT and my father was in UNC's law school when it hit him.

I was always told as a child that my mom and dad "went crazy" due to drugs, specifically pot and I would face the same fate if I ever did drugs. That had the opposite of the intended effect on me and I did anything I could get my hands on as a teen. That included large amounts of LSD, mushrooms, other chemical psychedelics and smoking pot regularly until my late 20's and occasionally into my early 30's. I was on a mission to prove the strength of my mind and my grip on reality.

My grandmother was a saint in how she treated me but was harshly judgemental toward her daughters, especially about premarital sex. I believe that her harsh judgement, 'Christian" guilt and my mother's lack of coping skills led to her mental breakdown in college along with her genetic predisposition and several traumatic experiences such as rape, abortion of an unwanted pregnancy and a miscarriage. She was also given LSD and told it was a THC tablet and slipped PCP another time. I know less about the details surrounding my father but I do know a cgeating fiancée played a part.

I am careful to raise my children to love themselves, know they will always have my support and know that no situation is so bad that it can't be gotten over/past. I feel these are some of the keys to good mental health along with the ability to honestly self evaluate and improve. I've had a strange life at times but I've always known myself, genuinely liked who I am as a person and never let stress overwhelm me. If I can instill these traits in my kids then the mess of my short-lived childhood was worth it.

Luckily, my mom has somewhat calmed down in her old age. My father died at a mental home in his 50's while having lived the past 30+ years in a fantasy world inside his own mind. I never resented him and we had a few lucid conversations over the years but they would only last minutes before he slipped back into fantasy land. He did get to meet his grandson (my son) and my wife shortly before he died. He looked like a 70 year old man due to the strong anti-psychotic meds he was on but he was happy for a brief moment when meeting them. Sorry for the very long answer but I did try to abbreviate as much as possible while giving the overall picture mixed with what my parent's tragic lives have taught me about life, mental health and parenting.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
The runner is not running in the running lane, but the first baseman is blocking the base. So why is the runner the one in error?
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They could rule that the first baseman intentionally blocked the bag which it’s obvious he didn’t bc he was just trying to make a play on the ball…. By rule…. It puts the onus on the runner…. If he is in the running lane then he can be hit by the ball…. Run over the first baseman and he would be safe…. The called it exactly the way the rule is written and still taking all kinds of grief about it…. People don’t like that he called it but that’s the rule.
 
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UTProf said:
So Tennessee and Vanderbilt? It's def. a state thing. Tennesseans love the interwebz and we should since Al Gore invented in.
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True Story: I was involved with the first company to compete with South Central Bell for local telephone service. We did well. In fact the company bought UUNet which was THE internet backbone. This action brought Vint Cerf to Knoxville (which is one of the founders of the internet). In an opportune moment, I ask the question…..was Al Gore involved with the finding of the internet? His answer was: “he was the major source in providing the funding”.

So now you know the rest of the story!
 
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gainesvol82 said:
Older UF fans in Gainesville support their team but the students are mostly from other parts of the state or out of state and only care about football mostly. And they really only care about that when they are a championship contender or are playing FSU, Miami or UGA.
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Their fanbase is also one of the dumbest I've been around in regards to sport IQ.

Ohio State competes with that as well.
 
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SoilVol said:
From your mouth to God's ears. Hardly articulated, and slightly vulgar, opinion, but an opinion nonetheless.
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K.I.S.S.
In this case I don't want to use a bunch of flowery longwinded egghead blowhard words to prove my loquacious-ness-ocity-whatever..the message is simple, and particularly in this case, vulgar suffices..

It is stupid f'n 🦬💩
 
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SoilVol said:
This'll probably get booted to the politics thread but for such strong opinions some seem to have with athletes accepting money from Saudi Arabian oligarchs I'm curious if there was similar outrage to this -

"After my heavily negotiated trip to Saudi Arabia last year, the Kingdom agreed to spend and invest $450 billion in the United States. This is a record amount of money. It will create hundreds of thousands of jobs, tremendous economic development, and much additional wealth for the United States. Of the $450 billion, $110 billion will be spent on the purchase of military equipment from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and many other great U.S. defense contractors."

Or that Jared Kushner's private firm accepted $2B in a Saudi investment.
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If you read back through my posts..I haven't said anything about hating this nonsense because of Saudi atrocities.

I hate it because it is contrived gimmicky stupid f'n contrived 🦬💩 that wants to take the best players from legitimate long standing PGA and European tour stops.
 
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