War in Ukraine

[NorthDallas40]

Just acknowledge you were wrong...again...and save everyone the time.

Irony … I see it

 

[Sandman 423]

While not my guy, I think Putin has been clear for years what he wants out of Ukraine.

Yep, Kinda like this....

 

[apevol]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QvT_jtKpm28?feature=share

 

[USF grad in TN]

Bucha killings: Satellite image of bodies site contradicts Russian claims

The image from 19 March, first reported by the New York Times and confirmed by the BBC, directly contradicts Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov's claim that footage of bodies in Bucha, that has emerged in recent days, was "staged" after the Russians withdrew.

 

[PKT_VOL]

"This has arguably been the most successful intelligence operation in military history and it's really tremendous. Someday that story will be told."

- Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley on the war in Ukraine, April 5, 2022

What the heck is that supposed to mean? Coming from him it’s hard to tell.

Yea. My assumption is we have been able to supply tremendous info to the Ukrainians in very near real time. If they win this struggle, which is looking better, it probably has a lot to do with our ability to feed them info obtained by our technology.

From the US/NATO, yes.

From the Ukrainian side, they clearly have either penetrated or flipped Russian intelligence at a clip never before seen. The amount of sensitive Russian tactical attacks and operations called out and adjusted to before they happen (if possible) has been (as Joey Diaz would say) tremendous.

 

[utvolpj]

More evidence to throw in the hat on the supposed mass graves in Bucha.

A propaganda source citing an unused Twitter account for their information? That's what you are basing your views on?

 

[PKT_VOL]

Whats the difference? One is authoritarian the other is fascist. Same result, different method of getting there.

I dont support it, per say, but after watching our budding fascism mature in the US and our media industrial complex marketing their death cult to our children, I'm not so sure anymore.

You realize you posted your opinion on this without the slightest fear of reprisal from your government precisely because you have the privilege of American First Amendment rights?

Meanwhile, the Russian people have had yet another law passed restricting what they can and cannot say under threat of jail.

Your irony meter is off the charts.

 

[volbound1700]

From the US/NATO, yes.

From the Ukrainian side, they clearly have either penetrated or flipped Russian intelligence at a clip never before seen. The amount of sensitive Russian tactical attacks and operations called out and adjusted to before they happen (if possible) has been (as Joey Diaz would say) tremendous.

Great point but our intelligence has also played a MAJOR part, I can imagine. Sharing intelligence is something that you can do to help an Ally that is low-risk and won't drag you into wars.

 

[PKT_VOL]

Great point but our intelligence has also played a MAJOR part, I can imagine. Sharing intelligence is something that you can do to help an Ally that is low-risk and won't drag you into wars.

I don't think so.

This intelligence specifically HUMIT, at the tactical level, and often local in nature. US HUMIT is typically targeted much higher, strategic, and centralized to Moscow or military technology hubs.

 

[BreatheUT]

This is what volgr supports. He's propping up the propoganda machine that led it's people to believe this crap. I see very clear, distinct parallels in the attitudes of these Russians to the people of Germany during the Nazi rise to power towards Jews and others.

I remember towards the beginning of the war a link to a video on social media with a woman claiming that the Russian goal was to kill 60% of the population. I was skeptical of that claim at the time and dismissed it. But after seeing this I'm not sure I would dismiss that claim, or at the very least I could see why Ukrainians would believe that given the Russian attitude toward them.

If this is how many, if not most Russians feel then they are a problem for the world that will have to be met sooner or later.

I might be wrong but I'm not sure volgr is a guy so you're making an assumption. It doesn't matter if volgr is a man or woman though. Just saying.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Compared to any time in the modern area, today, Americans are probably less informed and more cautious in their speech. Again, the produced result is the same.

This is BS. To suggest the average American is less informed than in the 1800s is ridiculous

 

[NorthDallas40]

Bucha killings: Satellite image of bodies site contradicts Russian claims

The image from 19 March, first reported by the New York Times and confirmed by the BBC, directly contradicts Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov's claim that footage of bodies in Bucha, that has emerged in recent days, was "staged" after the Russians withdrew.

No no no Chief sack carrier @volgr has assured us those people were “civilian defenders” and the use of “ “ means it’s legit and beyond contesting

 

[Rickyvol77]

Threats, US "diplomacy" in action...

You’re right. We should be like Russia and just invade foreign countries

 

[volgr]

You realize you posted your opinion on this without the slightest fear of reprisal from your government precisely because you have the privilege of American First Amendment rights?

Meanwhile, the Russian people have had yet another law passed restricting what they can and cannot say under threat of jail.

Your irony meter is off the charts.

Now do doctors who spoke out against Covid policy.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Now do doctors who spoke out against Covid policy.

“Butwhatabout…”

 

[landscapingvol]

You seem to equate culture with economy. Culture is in the family and passed through generations. Yes, Japan's cultural is dying. I would guess, as it is in most Countries, once you get out of the big cities to the Japan countryside where they have bigger families, one probably gets a better understanding of actual Japanese culture. When your young adults pack themselves into cities and no longer want to have families, your culture will decline quickly.

Yes birth rates are absolutely tied to economics. How do you not understand that basic principle?

 

[volgr]

This is BS. To suggest the average American is left informed than in the 1800s is ridiculous

I said modern age, which wouldn't include the 1800's in my opinion. Even so, people of 1800 were probably better informed on what mattered to them back then, than we are today.

 

[landscapingvol]

Cauldron is closing, as predicted.

Is this you not cheering Russia again?

 

[volgr]

Yes birth rates are absolutely tied to economics. How do you not understand that basic principle?

I said you were equating culture to economy.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Now do doctors who spoke out against Covid policy.

They were thrown in jail?

 

[volgr]

Is this you not cheering Russia again?

No, because just the other day I said this would happen, cause a total slaughter of Ukrainian forces caught in the cauldron and said Ukraine needed to sign a ceasefire to avoid these unnecessary casaulties but the goons on this board want to see more blood shed so they are getting what they want.

Odd, you dont ask them or yourself why they are cheerleading more unnecessary casualties.

 

[landscapingvol]

I said modern age, which wouldn't include the 1800's in my opinion. Even so, people of 1800 were probably better informed on what mattered to them back then, than we are today.

You are dense. The average American in the 1800’s had very little access to books or newspapers outside of urban areas which reminds me of you quite frankly.

 

[volgr]

They were thrown in jail?

No, but again the punishment was severe enough that it produced the same outcome. Again, going back to my main point which you cant refute.

 

[landscapingvol]

No, because just the other day I said this would happen, cause a total slaughter of Ukrainian forces caught in the cauldron and said Ukraine needed to sign a ceasefire to avoid these unnecessary casaulties but the goons on this board want to see more blood shed so they are getting what they want.

Odd, you dont ask them or yourself why they are cheerleading more unnecessary casualties.

You seem to believe that predicting a much larger military would likely destroy a much smaller military was hard to foresee. Of course, you also believe that the Russian government is just like the US. Supporting Ukraine’s fight against Russia’s douchebaggery isn’t the same as believing they will actually win.

 

[Rickyvol77]

No, but again the punishment was severe enough that it produced the same outcome. Again, going back to my main point which you cant refute.

Oh so no one was thrown in jail in America for criticizing the government or the president, unlike in Russia where they really don’t believe in freedom, especially Putin doesn’t