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Vols4us said:
Since CFB is now the developmental league for the NFL - 100% agree. That's the way it works in professional sports. If he doesn't pan out he transfers and the money goes to the next guy. He just needs to be willing to sit a season to get ready and at some point prove he's better than the guy on the field - no special treatment when they strap the pads on. The players know when a guy is a pet and it never ends well.
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Yes, this will be the tough part for coaches. They'll have to manage this. This kid is making more money than his QB coach. They'll have to learn how to manage that like the NFL coaches do when they're coaching highly paid guys. That's the hard part. There can't be favorites or special treatment. You have to earn your spot. If kids have a problem with that, you'll have to cut them loose.
 
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ACvol3 said:
I’m with ya, but they were praising Wisconsin for their road wins, so that must weigh more heavily for them
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They beat Purdue and Michigan State (who finished 20-11 before conference tourney & outside top 25)

Lost to Illinois & Ohio State. So really who did they beat in a true road game? If you point out the Neutral court you'd be giving them credit for beating A&M...but that's a team that didn't even make the dance.

So really their best wins away from home were Purdue (great win no denying that), Michigan State (20-11 team, but did beat Wisconsin in the conference tournament), Houston (29-5 team, but it was a November win by just 2).

If officiating on the road was even we probably win 3 of our 7 losses (Texas, Bama, Arkansas). I also think how a team ends a season has to matter more, we've lost 1 game since January 30th. Wisconsin in that same stretch has lost 4 and two of those were at home to Rutgers (18-13) and Nebraska (10-22).
 
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Joe Lunardi's 2022 NCAA tournament bracket: Hits, misses from myself and the selection committee

MISS: Everyone is all over the committee for not making SEC champion Tennessee a 1- or 2-seed. The top line was never going to happen for the Vols, but most of the comparisons to the other 2-seeds are valid. It's also an area where I would have gone with the Vols if voting my own ballot. Alas, this is my 22nd consecutive year without a vote, and I believed all along the Vols would be a 3-seed. And I have no quibble with Tennessee slotting just behind 2-seed Villanova, which beat the Vols handily in November.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Guys, we're going to land Nico. We're going to pay him over 2 million a year. Be excited about it.

So many of y'all are posting "oh no, what if he's a bust?!" Yes, there are going to be times when we pay players big money and they don't pan out. It happens in professional sports every single year. It will happen here. Who cares? At least we're giving ourselves a shot at the best players in the country every single year. Some will bust, most won't.
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I think most of us are excited about the possibility Bass. But, majority realize it's waay too early, have seen nothing tangible other than some internet rumors.

If it happens, great. Bring em on. If $2M is the new cost to play, so be it. If not, and it's Oregon. Oh well. I trust this staff to go get a transfer player.
 
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First look at betting the 2022 NCAA men's basketball tournament

In terms of sleepers, Houston (+800 to win South Region) stands out. The problem is that the Cougars potentially have to go through Illinois, Arizona and Tennessee. Perhaps it makes more sense to roll over some money lines, but I do like Kelvin Sampson and the Cougars. KenPom ranks them in the top 11 in both adjusted offensive and defensive efficiency.

South 3-seed Tennessee (20-1 title odds) will be a chic pick -- and rightfully so. To be fair, 20-1 is tempting and a number worth betting. The Vols just won the SEC tournament after a season that featured wins over Arizona, Auburn and Kentucky. But they also had some questionable losses and their offense can be average. However, some metrics loved UT once conference play started. I realize questioning Rick Barnes is an annual tradition, but remember that critics used to write off 2019 champion Virginia in the same way.
 
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engineerVOL said:
Cork and Cow is AWESOME. Stayed at The Hermitage there in downtown for our anniversary. We shared the Tomahawk steak, cocktails were top notch, we also split a bottle of champagne, and I avoided the Brussels sprouts like a man who wanted to make love to his wife later on… it worked. Y’all take notes.
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That's how you do it!
 
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Maxwell865 said:
Joe Lunardi's 2022 NCAA tournament bracket: Hits, misses from myself and the selection committee

MISS: Everyone is all over the committee for not making SEC champion Tennessee a 1- or 2-seed. The top line was never going to happen for the Vols, but most of the comparisons to the other 2-seeds are valid. It's also an area where I would have gone with the Vols if voting my own ballot. Alas, this is my 22nd consecutive year without a vote, and I believed all along the Vols would be a 3-seed. And I have no quibble with Tennessee slotting just behind 2-seed Villanova, which beat the Vols handily in November.
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walk it back, bitc*.

Drag his ass Voltwitter.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Guys, we're going to land Nico. We're going to pay him over 2 million a year. Be excited about it.

So many of y'all are posting "oh no, what if he's a bust?!" Yes, there are going to be times when we pay players big money and they don't pan out. It happens in professional sports every single year. It will happen here. Who cares? At least we're giving ourselves a shot at the best players in the country every single year. Some will bust, most won't.
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Id damn sure rather pay for and sign top 10 players that bust vs save money and sign scrubs.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
All the smoke points to it. I've already listed the reason why that athletic article absolutely is referring to Nico. AP has been dropping hints. There's a guy on VQ who is clearly connected to Spyre. He is at 100% when he speaks about Spyre/NIL. He's dropping major hints that it's coming this week. It's happening.
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Nice! 🤞🏼
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
All the smoke points to it. I've already listed the reason why that athletic article absolutely is referring to Nico. AP has been dropping hints. There's a guy on VQ who is clearly connected to Spyre. He is at 100% when he speaks about Spyre/NIL. He's dropping major hints that it's coming this week. It's happening.
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Gruden is coming to Knoxville...it's happening!
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
They beat Purdue and Michigan State (who finished 20-11 before conference tourney & outside top 25)

Lost to Illinois & Ohio State. So really who did they beat in a true road game? If you point out the Neutral court you'd be giving them credit for beating A&M...but that's a team that didn't even make the dance.

So really their best wins away from home were Purdue (great win no denying that), Michigan State (20-11 team, but did beat Wisconsin in the conference tournament), Houston (29-5 team, but it was a November win by just 2).

If officiating on the road was even we probably win 3 of our 7 losses (Texas, Bama, Arkansas). I also think how a team ends a season has to matter more, we've lost 1 game since January 30th. Wisconsin in that same stretch has lost 4 and two of those were at home to Rutgers (18-13) and Nebraska (10-22).
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Yeah, sounds like they’re grasping at straws
 
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Maxwell865 said:
Joe Lunardi's 2022 NCAA tournament bracket: Hits, misses from myself and the selection committee

MISS: Everyone is all over the committee for not making SEC champion Tennessee a 1- or 2-seed. The top line was never going to happen for the Vols, but most of the comparisons to the other 2-seeds are valid. It's also an area where I would have gone with the Vols if voting my own ballot. Alas, this is my 22nd consecutive year without a vote, and I believed all along the Vols would be a 3-seed. And I have no quibble with Tennessee slotting just behind 2-seed Villanova, which beat the Vols handily in November.
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Lunardi: “My super top secret, strictly confidential, metrics aggregation told me Tennessee would be a 3-seed. But my super super top secret metrics say that I would have them a 2-seed, if I had a vote.”

“But my super super super top secret analytics told me that head-to-head matchups in February/March don’t count for seeding, but head-to-head matchups from November should have Tennessee behind Villanova.”

“Did I mention Tennessee only tied for second in their conference? I am very smart.”
 
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Maxwell865 said:
First look at betting the 2022 NCAA men's basketball tournament

In terms of sleepers, Houston (+800 to win South Region) stands out. The problem is that the Cougars potentially have to go through Illinois, Arizona and Tennessee. Perhaps it makes more sense to roll over some money lines, but I do like Kelvin Sampson and the Cougars. KenPom ranks them in the top 11 in both adjusted offensive and defensive efficiency.

South 3-seed Tennessee (20-1 title odds) will be a chic pick -- and rightfully so. To be fair, 20-1 is tempting and a number worth betting. The Vols just won the SEC tournament after a season that featured wins over Arizona, Auburn and Kentucky. But they also had some questionable losses and their offense can be average. However, some metrics loved UT once conference play started. I realize questioning Rick Barnes is an annual tradition, but remember that critics used to write off 2019 champion Virginia in the same way.
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I just don't get that, in a sport that thrives on home court advantage more so than any other sport how are any of our losses questionable when every single team we lost to is in the NCAA tournament?

Loss @ Arkansas (4 seed)
Loss @ Texas (6 seed)
Loss @ Kentucky (2 seed)
Loss @ LSU (6 seed)
Loss @ Alabama (6 seed)
Loss to Texas (6 seed)
Loss to Texas Tech (3 seed)
Loss to Villanova (2 seed)

So what's questionable about a resume with a team that had 7 losses, none at home and none to a team that didn't make the tournament and were all 6 seeds or higher? Not to mention of those 7 losses we also won 4 against those teams in rematches.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I just don't get that, in a sport that thrives on home court advantage more so than any other sport how are any of our losses questionable when every single team we lost to is in the NCAA tournament?

Loss @ Arkansas (4 seed)
Loss @ Texas (6 seed)
Loss @ Kentucky (2 seed)
Loss @ LSU (6 seed)
Loss @ Alabama (6 seed)
Loss to Texas (6 seed)
Loss to Texas Tech (3 seed)
Loss to Villanova (2 seed)

So what's questionable about a resume with a team that had 7 losses, none at home and none to a team that didn't make the tournament and were all 6 seeds or higher? Not to mention of those 7 losses we also won 4 against those teams in rematches.
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These people are really bad at their jobs.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
I think most of us are excited about the possibility Bass. But, majority realize it's waay too early, have seen nothing tangible other than some internet rumors.

If it happens, great. Bring em on. If $2M is the new cost to play, so be it. If not, and it's Oregon. Oh well. I trust this staff to go get a transfer player.
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Lol. You’ll know in the next few days
 
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Anyone know the answer to this question…Since we’re an early afternoon game Thursday and winner gets the Mich/Co State winner (they play at 12:15 Thursday) does that mean if we win we’ll play around the same time Saturday (early) or is it random and we could just as likely play at 8pm?
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I just don't get that, in a sport that thrives on home court advantage more so than any other sport how are any of our losses questionable when every single team we lost to is in the NCAA tournament?

Loss @ Arkansas (4 seed)
Loss @ Texas (6 seed)
Loss @ Kentucky (2 seed)
Loss @ LSU (6 seed)
Loss @ Alabama (6 seed)
Loss to Texas (6 seed)
Loss to Texas Tech (3 seed)
Loss to Villanova (2 seed)

So what's questionable about a resume with a team that had 7 losses, none at home and none to a team that didn't make the tournament and were all 6 seeds or higher? Not to mention of those 7 losses we also won 4 against those teams in rematches.
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1-0 against 1 seeds
3-2 against 2 seeds

It's easier to justify the vols as a 1 seed than a 3 seed.
 
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