Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[theutvolunteers]

Meanwhile in Austin

 

[Vols4us]

Never Forget:
December 7, 1941

My Grandfather was there that day. The only time I ever saw the man cry was when I was there visiting with him back in the mid '80's.
Amazing stories from him about that Day!

Dad was stationed there for 6 months right after basic in Pensacola. All he could do was shake his head when I asked about it.

 

[drvenner]

Matt Campbell really shot himself in the foot. Looks like he will be stuck at Iowa St.

I think he is perfectly content to stay there.

 

[GVol1966]

Hey did you miss where it's now allowed to pay players? Wtf are you complaining about exactly?

Schools are not allowed to pay players

 

[Dudley Smith]

It's already happening. Bryce Young got over 7 figures. Ewers at Ohio State got $3mil. High 5 star players are getting $1mil.

That’s just the tip of the iceberg is my point. It’s short-sighted to see this as just a magnification of the traditional bag game. Let’s see if Alabama can keep up once all the players are getting paid substantial incomes. Things aren’t going to move on a straight line from where they are now.

 

[omghulkhands]

I am sure this already made the rounds. but for those that missed it

 

[Orangeburst]

Meanwhile in Austin

Was the monkey wielding a knife?
I believe that was option C in Nicks quiz

 

[BigOrangeVols]

Meanwhile in Austin

She has a name and it’s Pole Assassin!!!

 

[Orangeburst]

I am sure this already made the rounds. but for those that missed it

Didn’t one of our punters bail a 75 yarder in the Orange Bowl against Nebraska?
About the best play of that game

 

[Adam2014]

Saban won a national championship at LSU before going to Alabama. How would that argument make sense?

I did not say I used that argument.

 

[peaygolf]

Dad was stationed there for 6 months right after basic in Pensacola. All he could do was shake his head when I asked about it.

Long story short.........

family from Japan moved to Jackson, TN when I was about 14 and did some business with my dad, and his daughter was in my class. Family's grandfather was Zero Fighter pilot that attacked Pearl Harbor that day. They had us over for dinner one night............and we listened to their grandfather and my grandfather talk about that day from their own perspectives. It was one of the most memorable moments of my life.

 

[Adam2014]

Long story short.........

family from Japan moved to Jackson, TN when I was about 14 and did some business with my dad, and his daughter was in my class. Family's grandfather was Zero Fighter pilot that attacked Pearl Harbor that day. They had us over for dinner one night............and we listened to their grandfather and my grandfather talk about that day from their own perspectives. It was one of the most memorable moments of my life.

That is crazy.

 

[Volnatic]

Meanwhile in Austin

The old pole assassin. That’d be a fun deposition to take

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It was always a money based arms race…. How do you think we were so good during the 90’s….. it sounds like we are getting our ducks in a row right now….. elite players are going to get paid…. We have to offer more than just money as well.

Back then the major players were all around the same range though. It has gotten out of hand.

 

[ConwayFitty]

It's already happening. Bryce Young got over 7 figures. Ewers at Ohio State got $3mil. High 5 star players are getting $1mil.

The problem with these arguments is this is the very beginning and that 3 mil to Ewers has been lost with nothing to show for it for Ohio State. Yeah folks NIL money is flowing now, but when the donors get burned a few times by a recruit jumping ship, these waterfalls will dry up. Not completely dry but more along the lines of be on this billboard for 20 grand not a million.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I honestly thought NIL would be about the strength of a fanbase buying merch, and was comfortable that TN would be ok. Never envisioned that it would be about ultra-rich people buying players without salary caps. The NFL places "reasonable" limits on pay, and corporate sponsorships are generally limited by the business value of the sponsorship. NIL, so far, doesn't appear to have either a salary cap or meaningful business value (in some cases). Can't believe it will stay this way long term.

Honest question because I think you are a pretty sharp guy..How did you not see this coming?

 

[volsfan_17]

The problem with these arguments is this is the very beginning and that 3 mil to Ewers has been lost with nothing to show for it for Ohio State. Yeah folks NIL money is flowing now, but when the donors get burned a few times by a recruit jumping ship, these waterfalls will dry up. Not completely dry but more along the lines of be on this billboard for 20 grand not a million.

Okay just to weigh in for a minute. I've followed the NIL stuff pretty closely for awhile now. The Ewers example isn't valid in how it's being used most times. Ewers biggest NIL deal is exactly that, for his NIL on autographed memorabilia etc. He also has a beverage deal I believe which was from the state of Texas. In fact the reason he jumped from high school early was because the state of Texas wouldn't allow him to receive NIL benefits as a high school kid.

All that to say, there's no business deal in Columbus, or Ohio for that matter to be considered. There's no OSU donor getting burned by him leaving OSU. His deal is exactly what the expectation of the NIL opportunity is all about. He's basically paid for his autograph rights, which are valid at whatever university he plays at. In fact the autograph company (GTSM) is located in California.

I know we're having a lot of discussions about paying kids to go to a particular school, and I'm not naive to think that isn't happening, or that UT shouldn't be doing the exact same. However, Ewers doesn't seem to fall into this particular category.
Okay, end rant.

 

[bigorange]

Plus...from an admissions standpoint I believe the Transfers need to complete finals before they can confirm eligibility at their new schools. So we could get "commits" but I think the staff is willing to wait on those to confirm the people they pursue are actually going to be eligible. (but this is just speculation on my part)

That's a good point, I hadn't really thought about verifying eligibility after finals/end of semester.

 

[Vol464]

I generally prefer not to respond to condescending name calling with someone who lacks knowledge but thinks he has the world figured out. But bless your heart. You’re really such a little stinker.

Haha. Started to defend you and decided you could defend yourself.

 

[InVOLuntary]

That’s just the tip of the iceberg is my point. It’s short-sighted to see this as just a magnification of the traditional bag game. Let’s see if Alabama can keep up once all the players are getting paid substantial incomes. Things aren’t going to move on a straight line from where they are now.

Be interesting to follow. I still maintain that the more NIL will directly correlate to recruiting ranking. Which schools pay the most will get the higher ranked classes.

 

[peaygolf]

Haha. Started to defend you and decided you could defend yourself.

@SweetasSoda can definitely do that.............

 

[BigSteve09]

Chip Kelly to Oregon then Aranda to UCLA? Would be interesting.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Today’s edition

Big Money (green) coming in strong for the football team.

 

["It's Time"]

Does anyone know anything about Jimmy C. And Jimmy H? I figured they’d be prime candidates for transfers, but they haven’t so far.

It makes me wonder if we’re going to take a couple of WR in the portal.

 

[InVOLuntary]

The problem with these arguments is this is the very beginning and that 3 mil to Ewers has been lost with nothing to show for it for Ohio State. Yeah folks NIL money is flowing now, but when the donors get burned a few times by a recruit jumping ship, these waterfalls will dry up. Not completely dry but more along the lines of be on this billboard for 20 grand not a million.

Oh I fully expect it to level out some but the richer schools, schools with high roller boosters will continue to funnel huge amounts to the top, highest rated recruits. Don't think for a minute there won't be bidding wars between schools. It's already happening.