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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
I don’t care what happens in practice with Bailey. Obviously Milton killed it in practice and your guy annoyed him. Turns out he sucks on Saturdays and is terrible. Let’s turn the page form the practice warriors and let Bailey and hooker get all runs with the ones. And he wasn’t behind Maurer. That’s completely false.
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This ^

I also know better than that. Which is why Maurer left. Which is good because he could not stick to the script both on and off the field.

Hooker should start, he earned it. HB as back up. Milton to the bench.

Milton is still standing flat footed and throwing it into the cheap seats 4 years into his college career with Heup now training him for several months. He has JG disease back there - different style, similar mental make-up. He is as afraid to get hit on a run as JG. When passing - if the front, off hand shoulder rises and the back shoulder drops with a flat footed QB it changes the launch angle. If that same QB has a missile arm, the results are what we see. The passing hand has to snap down to get the ball somewhat on target like a baseball pitcher. Which is why Milton can hit the 10-15 yard route with his fast ball. But when he has to loft and target the deep outs and long balls it sails because he cannot snap the hand down to get the same result. He has zero touch. None. Move on.
 
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A lot of folks like the offensive scheme and I’ve heard people that I respect say it’s working in that we’re obviously getting a lot of guys open in the passing game. It would help if we could get the ball to them more effectively, but I digress.

Last night on the postgame radio show I heard some criticism of the scheme. It wasn’t about the passing game; it was about the running game. It came from both Erik Ainge and Troy Fleming. Their argument was that both Evans and Small are downhill runners, north and south. They said we need to be giving them the ball when they’ve worked up a head of steam. That allows them to get through the line and break some tackles. They said these two guys are not the types you need to be sending around the edges. I think they were suggesting we need to be operating from under center.

From early on in analyzing Heupel’s offense I’ve concluded if we can’t run the ball effectively we will struggle against better defenses.

For the Arkansas comparison all we have to do is win at least 3 SEC games including beating ourselves in order for Heupel to match Pittman’s first year at Arkansas. He beat the 2 Mississippi schools last year and beat us. Both Mississippi schools had first year staffs. Anyway, we may end up beating Vandy, Missouri, South Carolina, and Kentucky this year. That would give 4 SEC wins in Heupel’s first year and that’s not including the fact that we’ve already beat ourselves. So 5 Sec wins to 3. See? Simple math. We can compare Arkansas year two to Heupel next year. Until then we should at least be honest in our comparisons. jmo.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Saying Bailey was “awful” against Tech is a little unfair lol. It was our 3rd string vs their 1st string and he still scored a TD.
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Yep, seeing a personal agenda from his contact coming out. Not what a couple others I know who visit practice are saying. Having to redevelop HB from Chaney's way to Heup's way is taking longer, especially since he is not now getting reps with the 1's and 2's.
 
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BruinVol said:
I agree with that but the worry is the disciplined part.

penalties, clock management, personale groupings. That punt return debacle last night was pathetic.

Those things all are signs of a ship that isn’t being tightly run
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That punt return targeting wasn't as bad as it first appeared. The guy literally threw up the fair catch sign about a step before he got hit. The player didn't have adequate time to react imo. I won't defend the lowering of the head but I see no way for him not to hit him with that momentum and the late fair catch signal.
 
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MwB said:
Most consistent may not mean killed it, but you literally posted that your unnamed source was in "awe" of Milton.
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In awe of him physically bf he how he can throw a ball…. He is an absolute speciman…… I also posted several days where he was inconsistent in practice…. He is much more consistent on deep throws in practice but that is entirely different than a real game…Hooker had an awesome week of practice and was starting to show he was getting better…. I hesitated to say anything he I didn’t want to jinx it nor did I want people overreacting if he struggled against Florida Saturday night.

My person also was in awe of Byron Young bc he is so big and fast…. It doesn’t mean he is getting 5 sacks a game.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
Yo Milton fans, I’m still waiting on my apology. I’ll keep posting this all day till y’all respond.
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BruinVol said:
I agree with that but the worry is the disciplined part.

penalties, clock management, personale groupings. That punt return debacle last night was pathetic.

Those things all are signs of a ship that isn’t being tightly run
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That punt return targeting wasn't as bad as it first appeared. The guy literally threw up the fair catch sign about a step before he got hit. The player didn't have adequate time to react imo. I won't defend the lowering of the head but I see no way for him not to hit him with that momentum and the late fair catch signal.
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volatil said:
Which win are you the most impressed with… Temple, Delaware, or Syracuse?
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Not 'cuse. Willis gift wrapped that one for them when Freeze brain farted. Freeze kicks a FG and/or calls a decent play that was not telegraphed in the 4th quarter it's probably a W. Liberty had taken control of that game.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
A lot of folks like the offensive scheme and I’ve heard people that I respect say it’s working in that we’re obviously getting a lot of guys open in the passing game. It would help if we could get the ball to them more effectively, but I digress.

Last night on the postgame radio show I heard some criticism of the scheme. It wasn’t about the passing game; it was about the running game. It came from both Erik Ainge and Troy Fleming. Their argument was that both Evans and Small are downhill runners, north and south. They said we need to be giving them the ball when they’ve worked up a head of steam. That allows them to get through the line and break some tackles. They said these two guys are not the types you need to be sending around the edges. I think they were suggesting we need to be operating from under center.

From early on in analyzing Heupel’s offense I’ve concluded if we can’t run the ball effectively we will struggle against better defenses.

For the Arkansas comparison all we have to do is win at least 3 SEC games including beating ourselves in order for Heupel to match Pittman’s first year at Arkansas. He beat the 2 Mississippi schools last year and beat us. Both Mississippi schools had first year staffs. Anyway, we may end up beating Vandy, Missouri, South Carolina, and Kentucky this year. That would give 4 SEC wins in Heupel’s first year and that’s not including the fact that we’ve already beat ourselves. So 5 Sec wins to 3. See? Simple math. We can compare Arkansas year two to Heupel next year. Until then we should at least be honest in our comparisons. jmo.
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Yes an adjustment I would love to see made
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Depth is going to be a huge issue I agree, but I'm not as high on UK as I was after they struggled with SCAR last night. But Heupel showed me some things last night that pulled me back off the ledge a little. I still would like to see a little bit more focus on running the ball though. That drive before the Callaway drop, when we ran it 8 straight times down UF's throat was beautiful. I think we can beat the above mentioned 4 doing that.
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Agree and posted it around half time. Run the ball, tire the D out more. Be more patient. Then Hooker would have more time to throw or free lance a run or two. He needs to tighten the focus on what the team does well and build around it. Add the other stuff when its wide open or they show they can handle it. We all know he has a million tools in his offense when he has the talent available.

I saw a lot of positives. I'm looking forward to it playing out. Heup is a quick learner - nothing like the past three HC's.

This team was in the game up to the Calloway drop. That was impressive to me. The D got tired and the O did not have the time left to stay with the run first approach, especially after Hooker went down.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
We also need the admin to hurry up and tell the AA to kick rocks so we can play the recruiting game.
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You mean the people who ratted us out and invited the ncaa in for however long they wanted? They are a big reason we can’t recruit right now. And then have the audacity to raise prices and ask for millions in donations. How about you don’t cost the University so much money in lawyer fees all the time and get your act together
 
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volbeast33 said:
It sucks but Bailey ain’t the one.
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At this point if Hooker can't go Bailey may be the only choice. You saw what Joe did last night. Fans love it when Joe is QB cause they know they are going to get some free souvenirs when he throws the ball because they are the only he can hit. LOL
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
You mean the people who ratted us out and invited the ncaa in for however long they wanted? They are a big reason we can’t recruit right now. And then have the audacity to raise prices and ask for millions in donations. How about you don’t cost the University so much money in lawyer fees all the time and get your act together
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Yeah those idiots. That's another reason why I think TN never gets back. The admin would rather us be Kentucky and recruit 3 stars then play the game and get the talent needed
 
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TrippieRedd said:
Yo @Smyrna ATL Vol we were the ones bitching about Pruitt all season last year and wanted him fired, and got crucified by most of VN. We were the ones to bitch about Milton ever since he arrived and we once again got crucified. We were right both times, you can't make this **** up.
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Yeah it was just you two. (rolling eyes) lol
 
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Vols4us said:
Agree and posted it around half time. Run the ball, tire the D out more. Be more patient. Then Hooker would have more time to throw or free lance a run or two. He needs to tighten the focus on what the team does well and build around it. Add the other stuff when its wide open or they show they can handle it. We all know he has a million tools in his offense when he has the talent available.

I saw a lot of positives. I'm looking forward to it playing out. Heup is a quick learner - nothing like the past three HC's.

This team was in the game up to the Calloway drop. That was impressive to me. The D got tired and the O did not have the time left to stay with the run first approach, especially after Hooker went down.
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I just dont understand it, he spreads the D out in the passing game, but then wants to run outside, there's a numbers advantage in the box, and you have a personell advantage, since teams are going to use an extra DB when we spread out wide. Also safties are going to have a bit wider split, which gives the RB a bigger advantage
 
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