To Protect and to Serve II

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It is what it is, but I'm not big on being the "Mask Police". I haven't had a Channel 4 moment yet, but I'm thinking show up; try to mediate it; ask them to leave; then issue the CTW and drive off. If the business calls back, now you go back; warn one more time; then go custodial. That way, if it does go south, you've done all you could to avoid a confrontation. Not my idea of the best or most efficient use of my time, but I rarely get to make that decision anyway, so...

As someone else posted, it's basically the same as the "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" policy that some businesses have. Why do some people have to try to turn it into a David -vs- Goliath showdown? Take your business somewhere else. Rest assured, after you show your ass and (maybe) get arrested, they won't want you back again anyway. It's just ignorant.

Then again, I always said we only catch the stupid ones, so maybe this is where they hone their craft....who knows?
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
It is what it is, but I'm not big on being the "Mask Police". I haven't had a Channel 4 moment yet, but I'm thinking show up; try to mediate it; ask them to leave; then issue the CTW and drive off. If the business calls back, now you go back; warn one more time; then go custodial. That way, if it does go south, you've done all you could to avoid a confrontation. Not my idea of the best or most efficient use of my time, but I rarely get to make that decision anyway, so...

As someone else posted, it's basically the same as the "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" policy that some businesses have. Why do some people have to try to turn it into a David -vs- Goliath showdown? Take your business somewhere else. Rest assured, after you show your ass and (maybe) get arrested, they won't want you back again anyway. It's just ignorant.

Then again, I always said we only catch the stupid ones, so maybe this is where they hone their craft....who knows?
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Again, I'm not against private property rights. I'm not sure how what I'm suggesting can be twisted into I'm against these guys having their particular rules.

I'm just saying the time has come to minimize the number of times police are involved in these petty situations. You even said it yourself, "Not my idea of the best or most efficient use of my time..."
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Again, I'm not against private property rights. I'm not sure how what I'm suggesting can be twisted into I'm against these guys having their particular rules.

I'm just saying the time has come to minimize the number of times police are involved in these petty situations. You even said it yourself, "Not my idea of the best or most efficient use of my time..."
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Yep.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You should be able to remove people from your property by whatever means you have available to you. Let's see just how strongly you feel about someone not wearing a mask or wearing a red hat or a Confederate flag in your private establishment. Let' see if they are willing to enforce their own rules or if this is really a bunch of petty nonsense that they don't feel strong enough about to get their hands dirty over to resolve.

Put the burden on the property owner that is making the rules and have them responsible for enforcing them... cops are too busy enforcing jaywalking, panhandling and speeding to be bothered with enforcing every homeowners peculiar house rules.
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Since we pay taxes which a portion goes to fund police I think they should be available for their number 1 priority. Property owners do not have qualified immunity.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm just trying to look out for these poor, overworked police officers and at the same time trying to empower property owners.

How can you be against my reasonable solution?
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You haven’t offered a reasonable solution since property owners are not immune from lawsuits.
 
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hog88 said:
Since we pay taxes which a portion goes to fund police I think they should be available for their number 1 priority. Property owners do not have qualified immunity.
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Their #1 priority? Police have no legal obligation to protect you or your property for that matter. This is been brought up several times already.

hog88 said:
You haven’t offered a reasonable solution since property owners are not immune from lawsuits.
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I wouldn't be against having property owners get the same protections as police if they are protecting their property.

Again, I'm all for empowering the property owner.
 
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