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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I know you're kidding and all, but that win over Campbell is significant. Dude is at Louisiana and Campbell is the hottest coach out there. What he has done at Iowa State has been extraordinary. Did anyone watch that game?
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I watched it. Louisiana played more physical and looked better prepared. And I’m a big Campbell guy.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
To be fair Napier was just born here, played HS in Georgia & college ball at Furman in South Carolina, so how strong of a TN guy is he really when teen to adult years he hasn't lived here?
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Napier only lived in Tennessee until he was 3 years old. So to be honest I wouldn't consider him a Tennessee guy at all.
 
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LA Vol said:
I've been saying that keeping him was the default and it's still on the table. The investigation stirred up some things and it took a turn, but keeping him was always a possibility. He wouldn't be down to final on-campus interviews for staffers otherwise. If he wanted to negotiate a buyout, it would be playing out differently.
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i know you have, but you, like most of us (self included), have had things leaning one way vs. the other....especially over the past week or so.

and really...option A still seems to be most likely if you cut thru all the BS and speculation.....
 
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LA Vol said:
No. He has another year on his contract, but he has a no-buyout clause for taking an NFL job.
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So if we are interviewing DC candidates , Ainsley is either a candidate for a NFL job or going to be let go by UT? I haven’t heard what his likely status is since the season ended.
 
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Vols2DaWall said:
It’s really hard to say that Boyd, Plowman, and Fulmer have good leadership when you are seeing the self inflicted dysfunction play out right in front of our eyes.

Seems like pretty bad leadership imo
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well you have a point there. IMHO compared to DiPietro and Cheek, it is better. Whoever was responsible, they kept Barnes from going to UCLA.
Do you think that would have happened under the prior leadership?
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
extending him after year 2 with NO MITIGATION was the WTF moment. Ya wanna bump his salary, or give him more pool for hiring assistants by all means restructure, but why remove mitigation?

The only justification for a no mitigation is when ya got a championship winning coach that you want to give him assurance he's safe until he decides he wants to retire or leave (Saban, Dabo, Day, etc.) not a 13-12 first time HC that's entering year 3 with huge turnover in his staff.

Didn't Butch prove that to us already that top 10 classes aren't the end all at UT for results? 2014-7th, 2015-4th and in 2017 we went 4-8...
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the only reason it's a wtf moment is because we have the 20 season in the rearview. if he wins 5 or 6 games, it's not an issue.

if we play our original 20 schedule and went 8-4 (4-4), it isn't an issue.

i'm not debating whether they should have or shouldn't have. perception wise, the reason it's a wtf moment is because the benefit of hindsight.
 
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jakez4ut said:
is there another side to this that NONE of us are considering?

now, this would be the most un-Tennesseelike thing ever, but any chance the reason there's been nothing, is because there is nothing? and they're working behind the scenes to put together a truly top notch staff??? there are a lot of good coaches available right now that most anyone would like to have on their sidelines.

it would contradict a lot of the rumblings and go against what most of us believe about how Tennessee does things....

but to your point, even AP said it yesterday on the podcast, pruitt's working really hard on the 22 class, interviewing, looking at transfers etc.....

is there still a scenario that we do keep him and all our hand wringing is just that? i mean, for the most part, most of this, hell virtually all of it has been speculation from the get go. we've been in coach search mode since before the Vandy game....and coach still hasn't been fired.....?
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The narrative has always been he'll be back. The only thing that changed is the investigation and then more recently outside counsel coming in. Everyone assumes that means he's out, but if you look at how this has played out elsewhere you find often these proceedings do not end with a fired coach. This has been a lot of speculation, nothing more.
 
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jakez4ut said:
the only reason it's a wtf moment is because we have the 20 season in the rearview. if he wins 5 or 6 games, it's not an issue.

if we play our original 20 schedule and went 8-4 (4-4), it isn't an issue.

i'm not debating whether they should have or shouldn't have. perception wise, the reason it's a wtf moment is because the benefit of hindsight.
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It's not a WTF moment to you, that's fair you have whatever opinion you want.

To me though IN MY OPINION there's only a handful of head coaches in the entire NCAA that you offer no mitigation. In no world hindsight or otherwise would a first time HC with a 13-12 record heading into his 3rd season needing to hire 5 new assistants is one of those "no mitigation" coaches.

I would have said the same thing after the Indiana game. Fulmer made it really difficult to fire Pruitt & himself, the real question would be why? And if the rumors of Fulmer being "like another coach" are true that's the answer.
 
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Doug Matthews on the Zone
The Chancellor has faith in the AD, and supports him.
The AD believes that Pruitt will turn things around given time.
Chaney will have say in who the new OL coach is, and he expects Chaney to have more input in the offensive philosophy next year.
Pruitt will not be fired for football reasons. The only way he does not return is if something damning comes from the investigation.
FWIW don't shoot the messenger
 
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KB5252 said:
The narrative has always been he'll be back. The only thing that changed is the investigation and then me recently outside counsel coming in. Everyone assumes that means he's out, but if you look at how this has played out elsewhere you find often these proceedings do not end with a fired coach. This has been a lot of speculation, nothing more.
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yeah, i've kept saying that this doens't make any sense, no one has anything to gain etc..

and at some point you gotta come full circle and realize that's actually correct, and there's no way that's what they're doing, and he's most likely coming back...
 
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ugg said:
Doug Matthews on the Zone
The Chancellor has faith in the AD, and supports him.
The AD believes that Pruitt will turn things around given time.
Chaney will have say in who the new OL coach is, and he expects Chaney to have more input in the offensive philosophy next year.
Pruitt will not be fired for football reasons. The only way he does not return is if something damning comes from the investigation.
FWIW don't shoot the messenger
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Welp i suggest everyone stays home until they put a winning product on the field, regardless of coach.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
It's not a WTF moment to you, that's fair you have whatever opinion you want.

To me though IN MY OPINION there's only a handful of head coaches in the entire NCAA that you offer no mitigation. In no world hindsight or otherwise would a first time HC with a 13-12 record heading into his 3rd season needing to hire 5 new assistants is one of those "no mitigation" coaches.

I would have said the same thing after the Indiana game. Fulmer made it really difficult to fire Pruitt & himself, the real question would be why? And if the rumors of Fulmer being "like another coach" are true that's the answer.
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again, i'm not arguing for or against it.

if he won this past season, no one would care, or likely even know he had a no mitigation clause in his contract.

or maybe you're the one that would care? you're certainly entitled to. either way. it wouldn't be a big deal to most.
 
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ugg said:
Doug Matthews on the Zone
The Chancellor has faith in the AD, and supports him.
The AD believes that Pruitt will turn things around given time.
Chaney will have say in who the new OL coach is, and he expects Chaney to have more input in the offensive philosophy next year.
Pruitt will not be fired for football reasons. The only way he does not return is if something damning comes from the investigation.
FWIW don't shoot the messenger
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Not fired for football reasons! Lol. What a whack ass admin and AD we have. Just utterly useless.
 
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LA Vol said:
Ansley might go to the NFL. And Pruitt wants to add another defensive guy. He's been interviewing. He's not acting like a guy who thinks he's out.
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He has $4 million reasons to keep this job and keep his career on a better trajectory. If he is fired for failing and other issues, he will have a hard time ever being a head coach again. Of course he is business as usual.
 
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