2020 Presidential Race

[luthervol]

Are you seeing evidence of fraud?

If yes, is the fraud inconsequential to outcome?

If yes, is the fraud a concern for your trust in future elections?

Not much.
Completely.
Not really.

 

[Delmar]

And then we have Nuthouse Rudy with a 105 minute rambling rant this afternoon. Craziest I’ve seen yet. I would call it amusing if it wasn’t such a dangerous ploy.

 

[luthervol]

I'll answer for him.

No to #1, so #2 and #3 is N/A.

There you go, luther.

C-

 

[37L1]

Not much.
Completely.
Not really.

My answers are better, but that was to be expected.

 

[C-south]

Obama was far more popular than Biden. It's just that Trump is infinitely more hated than McCain or Romney.

The landslide numbers say otherwise.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Once Georgia, Pennsylvania and Michigan have all certified Biden as the winner, that should be the end of this nonsense. There is not a path to 270 electoral college votes left for Trump, without winning at least one of those three states.

 

[37L1]

C-

Good thing you don't work in education.

 

[luthervol]

The landslide numbers say otherwise.

No they don't; not in the least.

 

[McDad]

Not much.
Completely.
Not really.

Since you said, "not much", A super tight election might give you concerns about fraud pushing one candidate over the top?

 

[C-south]

No they don't; not in the least.

I suppose math is hard for some folks.

 

[37L1]

Since you said, "not much", A super tight election might give you concerns about fraud pushing one candidate over the top?

I tried to tell him my answers were better but did he listen?

 

[luthervol]

Since you said, "not much", A super tight election might give you concerns about fraud pushing one candidate over the top?

I'm for automatic recounts in any super tight election, which is already in place in most states.

 

[luthervol]

I tried to tell him my answers were better but did he listen?

Dropping you to a very generous D.

 

[Velo Vol]

Thanks, Obama.

 

[luthervol]

I suppose math is hard for some folks.

You better believe it.

 

[RockyTop85]

Over the last four years, Donald Trump has frequently referred to this 2016 electoral college margin of victory as being a "landslide". So, if we are applying Trump's own logic, and also being consistent? Yes. Trump won in 2016 by a landslide... and he just lost in 2020 by a landslide.

He called it a “massive landslide.” People here have repeated that. I don’t remember Trumpkins falling all over themselves to set the record straight.

 

[37L1]

Dropping you to a very generous D.

At this point, I'd advise you to play dumb, but then, you wouldn't be playing, would you?

 

[AM64]

Are you going to go back and nullify every past election? Biden won by a much larger margin in 2020 than did Trump in 2016 or Bush in 2000. Do you want to go on record as saying those elections are probably invalid?
There is absolutely no evidence that there is more fraud in this election. The recounts seem to suggest the opposite.
It was known all along that if Trump lost, he would destroy America's confidence in the election process before he would ever concede.
All we are seeing is what we knew we would see from Trump. The pathetic thing in the eyes of most people is the number of repubs and Trumpers who refuse to step up for the sake of what is right and best for the country.

Funny. I just scanned the headlines and didn't see any recounts released yet. You've seen the future?

I doubt it on Trump destroying confidence in the election process; seems like the elections commissions and states with mail it in elections have done that all by themselves. What I do hope is that Trump leaves scorched earth as he goes out - starting with an investigation of Biden much like the one that hamstrung Trump. And I hope he leaves behind some people in key positions so that Biden can't fire them and undermine their damage without looking like a hypocrite. For starters.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

And then we have Nuthouse Rudy with a 105 minute rambling rant this afternoon. Craziest I’ve seen yet. I would call it amusing if it wasn’t such a dangerous ploy.

No highly reputable attorneys would go nowhere near this circus of a s**t show

 

[hUTch2002]

Not the county... certain precincts...

Understood. Just saying I’ll be curious to see it. I don’t think they break it down beyond county online for us commoners but maybe I just didn’t look hard enough.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Really, the DNC needs to give up their protests about showing valid IDs at the polls and the RNC needs to give up protests about felons (or ex-felons that have served their sentence) being on voter rolls.

These seem like reasonable ways of cutting the baby in half.

If your time is served your rights should absolutely be restored.

 

[luthervol]

At this point, I'd advise you to play dumb, but then, you wouldn't be playing, would you?

I'll give your advice all the consideration it deserves.

 

[hUTch2002]

The Wayne County, Michigan Republican canvasser (Monica Palmer), who now says she wants to rescind her vote to certify the election results, admits she spoke to President Trump on the phone late Tuesday night - after the meeting to certify the results.

... and the Trump campaign is complaining about election impropriety?!?!?

The President of the United States speaking to a local canvasser to try and sway her decision about the certification of the results is more direct evidence of tampering, than anything else we have seen so far. That is highly inappropriate.

Is that right? And what do you call it when they were intimidated into changing their vote in the first place? They originally voted not to certify.

 

[OldVolMan]

That link does do a pretty good job of refuting Rudy Giuliani's baseless claims... but by all means, take the 76 year old man with black hair dye running down his face in the middle of a press conference seriously.

Yea, and after all he is an old white man!

 

[luthervol]

Funny. I just scanned the headlines and didn't see any recounts released yet. You've seen the future?

I doubt it on Trump destroying confidence in the election process; seems like the elections commissions and states with mail it in elections have done that all by themselves. What I do hope is that Trump leaves scorched earth as he goes out - starting with an investigation of Biden much like the one that hamstrung Trump. And I hope he leaves behind some people in key positions so that Biden can't fire them and undermine their damage without looking like a hypocrite. For starters.

Rest easy, Trump will scorch as much of America as he possibly can.