New QB being Installed During Offweek

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jmcarr33 said:
I don’t believe you understood the comment smh. Their true freshman QB played quite well! Maybe due to being in many meetings before getting there and understanding their system but our backups have had plenty of time (more time) to accomplish the same thing and also have college game experience as well. No reason BM shouldn’t have played the entire 4th quarter.
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Understood the comment just fine. My comment was directed more at wins and losses, not exactly at who is playing.
 
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I heard all the former Saban assistants have a pow wow every week. I guess they all tell Pruitt that JG just needs this and this to get better and that he's almost there because they want him to be our QB!
 
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West Vol said:
Bray and Dobbs were better than most of their peers and couldn’t get it done.
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Wrong. We had an absolutely awful defense most years. With the defense we have now we would have been in the playoffs. Don't laugh. It's hard to play good defense when you spot a team 17 points. Morale is sort of a factor. The defense quits when the offense can't score. It's like....what are we risking our bodies for? Winning is everything.
 
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UneducatedGuess said:
For those digital warriors out there who don’t understand the actual schedule and challenges Tennessee has had please read

1. Due to COVID, NO backup QB has been developed due to MANDATED quarantine from contact tracing. Blame Trump, Blame Biden, Blame China, Blame whoever. You can’t train a backup in 4 practices.

2. Our QB issue is about AWARENESS and the offense. Our mistakes are due to bad decision making. A QB questioning himself.

3. Chaneys offense DEPENDS on a QB who can AUDIBLE and make MULTIPLE reads. Maybe a young gun can do this, however, you need PRACTICE to have a playbook deeper than your wristband.

I GUARANTEE QB change happening for Arkansas UNLESS COVID/HEALTH issues.

BOOK IT

Flame away
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I don't know if I'd guanantee it, but I guanantee they're are working on it. BTW it was refreshing to read a post by someone who has a good understanding of football and how things work.
 
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wmcovol said:
In my opinion the offense has sucked the last two yrs. Very little imagination and poor execution on the basic plays they do run. If you’re happy with an offense scoring more TDs for the opponent, good for you.
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Makes sense - so apparently everyone who does not happen to agree with your opinion that Chaney (who has long been considered one of best OC's in CF) should be fired feels this way because we prefer offense that scores more TD's for opponents. :rolleyes:
 
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UneducatedGuess said:
For those digital warriors out there who don’t understand the actual schedule and challenges Tennessee has had please read

1. Due to COVID, NO backup QB has been developed due to MANDATED quarantine from contact tracing. Blame Trump, Blame Biden, Blame China, Blame whoever. You can’t train a backup in 4 practices.

2. Our QB issue is about AWARENESS and the offense. Our mistakes are due to bad decision making. A QB questioning himself.

3. Chaneys offense DEPENDS on a QB who can AUDIBLE and make MULTIPLE reads. Maybe a young gun can do this, however, you need PRACTICE to have a playbook deeper than your wristband.

I GUARANTEE QB change happening for Arkansas UNLESS COVID/HEALTH issues.

BOOK IT

Flame away
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1) plenty of places to go practice and work on the playbook during quarantine.
2/3) those audibles and multiple reads brought us a total of 24 points over the last two weeks.
1.5 years in a system plus actual playing time is enough time to expand beyond a wristband you refer to.
I hope your guarantee is correct.
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't think that was the point.

If the players no longer believe in JG or they think someone else should be playing and Pruitt is starting JG anyway then that will kill morale. It will destroy trust. The locker room will divide.... and that's bad news with leadership questions already being raised.
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There is no locker room problem. The players support the coach and his decision is best for them winning whatever it may be. That's loyalty. Always making the teams issues around the QB position is short sighted on your part and remains your agenda. We've all heard your take on how JG isn't getting it done. We'll CJP knows better than anyone who is the best option. You think Chaney doesn't believe the same thing?
 
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WE'RE ROLLING WITH A NEW QB AFTER THE BREAK, Y'ALL

WINNING OUT THE REST OF THE WAY !!

BOOK IT
 
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MiramarVol said:
There is no locker room problem. The players support the coach and his decision is best for them winning whatever it may be. That's loyalty. Always making the teams issues around the QB position is short sighted on your part and remains your agenda. We've all heard your take on how JG isn't getting it done. We'll CJP knows better than anyone who is the best option. You think Chaney doesn't believe the same thing?
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Yes. I have multiple good reasons to think that Chaney does not agree. Some are public behavior and comments. Some are from sources that I'm not at liberty to reveal.

The "agenda" is winning. JG limits the O which limits the team.

There is evidence of division or at least doubt in the locker room. Smith is a friend of JG's. And the strongest he was willing to support the decision to start JG again was... "if that's what the coaches think is best then we will roll with it". Not, "we've had a great competition and our best guys will play". Not, "we are confident that our QB will get it done". Simple resignation that the coaches were going to start whoever they decided to start.

And honestly... you think guys on the team can watch JG play and the others not get an opportunity... and none of them disagree with the decision? This isn't a guy playing great with a few guys thinking someone else would be even better. This is a guy costing the team wins with talented guys not even getting a shot.
 
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TGVol said:
Makes sense - so apparently everyone who does not happen to agree with your opinion that Chaney (who has long been considered one of best OC's in CF) should be fired feels this way because we prefer offense that scores more TD's for opponents. :rolleyes:
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I don't recall ANYBODY ever saying that Chaney was one of the best offensive coordinators in college football other than a portion of the delusional fan base here that believes that putting on an orange cap immediately makes a coach/player one of the best in the nation. This guy continues to carry huge praise for making Drew Brees great. Guess what? Drew Brees would have been great anyway. Just take a look at all the supposed genius offensive coordinators that suddenly became clueless once Peyton was no longer taking snaps for them anymore. One of them will be canned by the Jets this year.
 
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Vol423 said:
I don't recall ANYBODY ever saying that Chaney was one of the best offensive coordinators in college football other than a portion of the delusional fan base here that believes that putting on an orange cap immediately makes a coach/player one of the best in the nation. This guy continues to carry huge praise for making Drew Brees great. Guess what? Drew Brees would have been great anyway. Just take a look at all the supposed genius offensive coordinators that suddenly became clueless once Peyton was no longer taking snaps for them anymore. One of them will be canned by the Jets this year.
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Chaney has also coached one of the best offenses UT has ever put together (google Tyler Bray if that is too far back for you). And he was handpicked OC for two offensive minded coaches (Kiffin and Dooley).

However, if you want to see even more recent endorsment here is a link to get up to speed:

Dogs' Fromm says Vols' Chaney taught him 'big-boy football'
 
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tnutater said:
After losing the best WR in the country on the opening kick-off, Alabama still never missed a beat. They just brought in another future NFL talent. That is having elite position groups. Our little fellows at WR were in high school last year. Your failure to see the talent gap is an indication that you wear orange tinted goggles. I am glad some folks can still do that. But it does not change facts. We do not have talent anywhere that is elite level. You are what your record says you are. We are the bitches of the top SEC teams, an easy win and an off week. A new coach or quarterback alone will not change anything enough for anyone to fear the Vols. To be competitive at the top, we must have better players across the board. To paraquote ADPF from his coaching days...You don't have to have great players at every position. But it sure helps you win games.
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I agree Alabama has far more elite players than we do, but we have enough to compete much better than we are right now. I don't wear orange tinted goggles, I'm just stating facts

The fact that you made that silly NFL comment disqualifies you a bit from adult conversation. And you just have no idea as to what you're talking about as to the effects of having an elite QB running the show
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
I agree Alabama has far more elite players than we do, but we have enough to compete much better than we are right now. I don't wear orange tinted goggles, I'm just stating facts

The fact that you made that silly NFL comment disqualifies you a bit from adult conversation. And you just have no idea as to what you're talking about as to the effects of having an elite QB running the show
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Perhaps you would appear more intelligent if you read the previous posts and remembered what you pounded out on the keyboard before replying. As much as I hate to, I totally agree with you about the silly NFL comment. I did not make it.
 
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TGVol said:
Makes sense - so apparently everyone who does not happen to agree with your opinion that Chaney (who has long been considered one of best OC's in CF) should be fired feels this way because we prefer offense that scores more TD's for opponents. :rolleyes:
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Jim, is that you?
 
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TGVol said:
Chaney has also coached one of the best offenses UT has ever put together (google Tyler Bray if that is too far back for you). And he was handpicked OC for two offensive minded coaches (Kiffin and Dooley).

However, if you want to see even more recent endorsment here is a link to get up to speed:

Dogs' Fromm says Vols' Chaney taught him 'big-boy football'
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Chaney/bray threw the ball practically every down. They had top WRs in Hunter & Patterson and were behind by big margins much of the time.

Chaney should have Fromm carry his water. Chaney choose Fromm over Fields. Looks dumb as hell right now.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Saban knows how to coach. He would take this team and win the east division. He would put JG on the bench before the season started.
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Nah, Saban knows how to win if he has more talent than anyone else. That's why Clemson can beat him because their talent is on par with Bama
 
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wmcovol said:
Chaney/bray threw the ball practically every down. They had top WRs in Hunter & Patterson and were behind by big margins much of the time.

Chaney should have Fromm carry his water. Chaney choose Fromm over Fields. Looks dumb as hell right now.
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I'm not sure Chaney chose Fromm over Fields, that seems to have been a Kirby call. However if he did, that does not bode well for HB, he may as well hit the transfer portal tonight if that is the case.
 
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Freak said:
Sure that can happen as a season progresses. But we’ve had weaknesses on defense that were evident since game one that have nothing to do with morale or who the quarterback is. He specifically said that’s one of the reasons for the regression on defense and I don’t buy it. Two and a half games ago we had an eight game winning streak, were ahead of Georgia at halftime and morale seemed fine.
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Its amazing how long ago that was.
The streak was neat dont get me wrong, winning is definitely better than losing but we ve now started another streak and it includes 3 Ls in a row by 21+ and one of those was to UK.

The defense hasn't played well but since the halftime lead at UGA our offense has scored 24 points. It has directly or indirectly given the opposing team 37 points in turnovers.
28 of those were scored directly by the opposing defense. Basically our defense needed to score 2 tds is what our offense scored just to match what the opposing team scored on our offense. That gets heavy really quick.

Its not just one problem and right now we should be a game better not 5-0. But at some point (and I'm past it like many others) you have to move on and try something different. Unless JG decides to return its gonna be somebody else next year anyway. We re not getting any closer to finding an answer at that position on the current track. IMO.
 
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Ok, the defense played well enough in the first half against UGA, for us the lead at the half. Enter JG. Game over.
Then, he spots UK a 14-0 lead, and turns the ball over on what appeared to be a promising drive.
So, of course this affects the defense. At some point you start asking yourself, why should I bust my ass? This doofus is just going to give it away.
Against Bama, we never even tried to win that game. I think they are starting to believe that they suck.
 
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