SEC still planning on playing season.

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#76
Maybe what one prints/says identifies the knowledge of the writer. Those who don’t know continue to think they do.
Then I can make a lot of assumptions about you. Wonderful!

What, perchance, is your background? It had better be in "science". Mine is in data science, with a focus on executive decision support and risk management. 20+ hours of each of my weeks are spent with academics that are part of the grant-earning rat race- including in health and healthcare.
 
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I don’t get that at all. There’s a continuum that goes from “cancel the season” all the way to “pretend like nothing’s happening”. There’s no reason not to find a comfort level in between.
You're dead on, but in the social media world (which isn't real life, but many think it is) you aren't "allowed" to have a position that falls anywhere between the ends of the continuum. You either have to believe the virus is a 100% hoax, or the world needs to come to a complete halt until 100% of the population is vaccinated.
 
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#80
I have been watching MLB and many players have tested positive, some have gotten ill, but EVERY ONE of them have recovered and many are excelling---in less than a month's time from testing positive. This is not being reported at all or I haven't heard it being reported. I found out by seeing the "hyperventilated" news about someone testing positive or a team has suspended play. Then all of a sudden I see the name of the "sick" players in the box scores 2 weeks later. This is all hype and BS by the media hysteria and politicians. We should protect the vulnerable and take reasonable precautions, but we have to get on with life. This will all be over after the election.
 
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#81
So how low do your odds of catching it go if you dont play?

Cause my belief is that you're going to catch it if youre biologically susceptible to it.

So maybe you can reason not playing increaes your odds of catching it after a treatment has been created or you can avoid it until a vaccine. I'd say both are very low odds.
 
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I have been watching MLB and many players have tested positive, some have gotten ill, but EVERY ONE of them have recovered and many are excelling---in less than a month's time from testing positive. This is not being reported at all or I haven't heard it being reported. I found out by seeing the "hyperventilated" news about someone testing positive or a team has suspended play. Then all of a sudden I see the name of the "sick" players in the box scores 2 weeks later. This is all hype and BS by the media hysteria and politicians. We should protect the vulnerable and take reasonable precautions, but we have to get on with life. This will all be over after the election.
Let me be clear. I want college sports this year and believe players should have the ability to opt in if they’re given the ability to opt out. But also, you are wrong about all players being recovered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...season-because-heart-ailment-linked-covid-19/
 
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Let me be clear. I want college sports this year and believe players should have the ability to opt in if they’re given the ability to opt out. But also, you are wrong about all players being recovered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...season-because-heart-ailment-linked-covid-19/
Oh golly anecdotal evidence!

ONE person.

Also, it doesnt dismiss the fact that our players are actually safer in the controlled monitoring and testing environment in the football facilities.

Playing the sport DOES NOT automatically mean that they are more susceptible to the damn virus. Otherwise they're young and gonna go party where they might be one in a million like that baseball player and have a heart ailment.
 
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#84
So how low do your odds of catching it go if you dont play?

Cause my belief is that you're going to catch it if youre biologically susceptible to it.

So maybe you can reason not playing increaes your odds of catching it after a treatment has been created or you can avoid it until a vaccine. I'd say both are very low odds.
That's what I've been saying and what anybody realizes if they aren't stuck in the doom and gloom continueom.
 
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Then I can make a lot of assumptions about you. Wonderful!

What, perchance, is your background? It had better be in "science". Mine is in data science, with a focus on executive decision support and risk management. 20+ hours of each of my weeks are spent with academics that are part of the grant-earning rat race- including in health and healthcare.
34 years with the National Immunization Program at CDC.
 
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#90
Why would any true fan of Tennessee football want our team to play in front of an empty stadium or one limited to 50% of capacity?

Either do it all the way or not at all.
watching MLB and NBA in empty stadiums makes the sport lose alot of luster, so I kind of agree
 
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Let me be clear. I want college sports this year and believe players should have the ability to opt in if they’re given the ability to opt out. But also, you are wrong about all players being recovered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...season-because-heart-ailment-linked-covid-19/

Maybe you should do some research on myocarditis. I have and you know what I've found? myocarditis has been around a long time and is also a symptom of several viruses including the regular flu.

This from an article in 2012
Myocarditis Associated with Influenza A H1N1pdm2009
Acute myocarditis is a well-known complication of influenza infection. The frequency of myocardial involvement in influenza infection varies widely, with the clinical severity ranging from asymptomatic to fulminant varieties.
 
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34 years with the National Immunization Program at CDC.
Doing what?

Because my fundamental belief is that most of the government recommendations are, and have always been, being made based on bad data- from the outbreak in China, to very poor models.
 
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Doing what?

Because my fundamental belief is that most of the government recommendations are, and have always been, being made based on bad data- from the outbreak in China, to very poor models.
Fundamental beliefs are not supported with scientific and epidemiology data. Data from around the World are gathered and analyzed by the best laboratories in both the public and private institutions. New data can produce more accurate facts and that will happen with this virus.
 
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Why would any true fan of Tennessee football want our team to play in front of an empty stadium or one limited to 50% of capacity?

Either do it all the way or not at all.
I've wrestled with this. Watching Tennessee play at an empty Neyland is like going to an open casket funeral. It's sad but also strangely necessary
 
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Soooo if all the other conferences cancel playing this year and the SEC plays, the SEC champion is the national champion?...I mean i know its a silly question being as that is usually the case even when the other teams play lol
If the SEC is the only game at all how big will the money be? Every SEC game will be televised nationally at different hours. We may see other networks want a piece of the action for the year..
 
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Fundamental beliefs are not supported with scientific and epidemiology data. Data from around the World are gathered and analyzed by the best laboratories in both the public and private institutions. New data can produce more accurate facts and that will happen with this virus.

'Best' is awfully subjective- the CDC is definitely not the 'best', and neither are organizations like the WHO, the organization that kicked all this off on the global scale. Science should- should- be apolitical, and by their very nature neither of those organizations meets that standard in the slightest. And the 'new data' is not disproving anything I noted, is it?

Much of the data in the US- collected by politicized (both aisles, mind you) state health departments and local hospitals- is almost assuredly bad because of the financial incentives they have in emergency budgets, and from the simple desire to 'do something', an incentive too many people overlook in otherwise boring lives of bureaucrats. There must always be context for any predictive model or analysis, and a way to account for that. Always.

Even 'trustworthy' data is almost always presented without context. For instance, the data on the virus 'living on surfaces' was never presented (not just in the media, but even in many academic studies!) with information on how long it was actually infectious, or what the viral load required for infection was. Deaths are not counted appropriately, or are counted differently depending on state- how do you normalize that and get any kind of accurate model or make any kind of recommendation? Mask usage effectiveness has been a scattershot all along, including from the 'scientific' CDC. Can you argue that 'new data' is showing new recommendations? If that's what you want, you can, but the CDC itself has flip-flopped all over the place with its public-facing side through many things, which leads me to believe they have.... bad data. I believe most people in government want to do what's right, but if you're starting from garbage what can you really do?

Your accusation was that I was not 'scientific'. I am attempting to be scientific in that I believe in a process for collecting, cleaning, and using data to make decisions and recommendations. I know that that process has not been followed, and I know that because I can read the background on the data that's often being used. I also know that the financially-driven abandonment of the most basic aspects of the scientific method are being accelerated- I see that every day already- and that what today stands as 'science' is way too often nothing but one goober's semi-expert analysis.

You didn't note what you, did, either- was it data analysis? Prediction modeling? Research? Marketing? IT?
 
I want to take the following phrases and launch them into the sun:

Domino analogies.
New normal.
We’re in this together.
Social distancing.
I vote to keep the domino analogy. It evokes the Cold War battle against commies, which is kinda what we are in the midst of once again.
 
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