George Floyd Protest/Riots

[Weezer]

Valid points can be made by both sides. We need to find better answers.

 

[Weezer]

Nut shots are preferred to leg shots?

Shoot 'em in the ass.

 

[rjd970]

Let’s say for the sake of argument that you are 100% correct on what actually took place, what percentage of events involving police shootings are committed by homicidal, racist cops?? Less than 5 percent if you are being extremely generous, yet let’s paint every cop with same broad brush and label every perpetrator as a saint. Then, let’s riot in the streets and demand the disbanding of the police. Yeah, none of this is an over reaction by the perpetually offended

Well done admonishing for painting all cops with a broad brush while simultaneously doing the exact same thing with protestors as rioters.

 

[0nelilreb]

Maybe you just worded it poorly

I can simplify it .. Don’t break into my home while we are there , it’s not indicative of a long and health life for you .

 

[NashVol11]

Well done admonishing for painting all cops with a broad brush while simultaneously doing the exact same thing with protestors as rioters.

And same with victims i.e. “yeah right, no way they were innocent”

 

[RikidyBones]

And same with victims i.e. “yeah right, no way they were innocent”

That should be treated case by case. In the case of the atl guy, he wasn't innocent and to suggest the shooting wasn't a justified one is self serving to an ignorant world view.

George Floyd was a murder as he was subdued and in custody.

Its case by case.

 

[1972 Grad]

Shoot 'em in the ass.

twss

 

[VeryBest]

Jerry should have been shot. That video has two incompetent officers in it.

Writing them off as "incompetent" is cool. That is a possibility. Maybe they had restraint in using deadly force and did not want to kill?

Either way, Jerry lived and he was likely later arrested. Discretion is important.

I believe in justice which is based on facts. You believe in social justice which is based on FEELINGS. The former is the foundation of a healthy society. The latter is what we’re seeing the effects of now

I said I was not sure if the killing was racially motivated. What are you talking about?

How do you factually prove someone killed because of racism? Maybe the killer admits it or yells a racial slur after the murder. Without that type of display, your repeated response is an easy wall to hide behind

 

[Rickyvol77]

That should be treated case by case. In the case of the atl guy, he wasn't innocent and to suggest the shooting wasn't a justified one is self serving to an ignorant world view.

George Floyd was a murder as he was subdued and in custody.

Its case by case.

Agreed. Every incident is different. Every criminal, every officer, every department, every state law, all has some differences which play into these incidents. That’s why the suggestion that “why isn’t this incident handled the same as this other one?” is a fallacy

 

[NashVol11]

Agreed. Every incident is different. Every criminal, every officer, every department, every state law, all has some differences which play into these incidents. That’s why the suggestion that “why isn’t this incident handled the same as this other one?” is a fallacy

And that’s why “this is 100% fine and you guys just don’t understand the law” is a farce

 

[VeryBest]

That should be treated case by case. In the case of the atl guy, he wasn't innocent and to suggest the shooting wasn't a justified one is self serving to an ignorant world view.

George Floyd was a murder as he was subdued and in custody.

Its case by case.

So why are you so quick to state what the law allows despite not knowing each state's law?

 

[RikidyBones]

So why are you so quick to state what the law allows despite not knowing each state's law?

I think you have me confused with someone else. I never stated law. However, the manual for Atlanta discusses the policy here



And in the case of George Floyd, the laws of Minnesota have been posted so we have had a chance to review those because... wait for it... its case by case.

Your point doesnt help you lmao. Why am I stating its case by case without knowing all the laws in each state? Because each case warrants review under the laws of each state and each circumstance. What is your point?

 

[RikidyBones]

Writing them off as "incompetent" is cool. That is a possibility. Maybe they had restraint in using deadly force and did not want to kill?

Either way, Jerry lived and he was likely later arrested. Discretion is important.


I said I was not sure if the killing was racially motivated. What are you talking about?

How do you factually prove someone killed because of racism? Maybe the killer admits it or yells a racial slur after the murder. Without that type of display, your repeated response is an easy wall to hide behind

If Jerry gets in the police cruiser and hits a van with 6 children in it and kills them, are we still celebrating that restraint? The officers have an obligation to protect the public. Not doing so can result in far greater circumstance.

 

[DynaLo]

Agreed. Every incident is different. Every criminal, every officer, every department, every state law, all has some differences which play into these incidents. That’s why the suggestion that “why isn’t this incident handled the same as this other one?” is a fallacy

Yes, there are some differences involved in every situation, and let me state that I am adamantly against a nationalized police force at state/local levels as we already have the FBI, but I do think that some early portions of training, tactics and responses could be standardized on a national level. Include the psychological testing aspects in that and enforce wash outs. Once you pass the national training you’re sent back to state and local training to complete your academy requirements.

Look at NGB as somewhat of an example. Everyone does the same boot camp, washes out, recycles or graduates and goes on to their selected MOS training, washes out, recycles or graduates and returns to their local units for further OJT.

 

[landscapingvol]

Hearing about Breonna Taylor’s death and reacting with “well it was probably justified bc I don’t like BLM and cops are great” is its own form of overreaction

You’re right I have always said cops were perfect and yes BLM is idiotic. It’s one of the dumbest things I have ever witnessed. You and everyone else who claims to be “outraged” is only outraged because it was at the hands of a white cop. You don’t blink an eye when it’s at the hands of another black man because after all that’s just a diversion. Amirite?

 

[Tyler Durden]

And that’s why “this is 100% fine and you guys just don’t understand the law” is a farce

Going back and forth with that guy is a fascinating look into a cop's mindset.

A- He automatically knows more than you because he's a cop, despite him having no clue what you do.

B- If you question him about anything you're clearly just a low-life idiot.

C- You wouldn't last a second in the real world, because you're not a cop.

D- Cops are right 99.9% of the time and rarely make mistakes.

Hard to see how cops are having a problem on the streets right now with that kind of mindset.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Why the 92% of black folks being shot by other black folks just doesnt matter to BLM or Liberals...I have no idea.

When yall want to burn down cities because all of 9 unarmed black men were killed in 2019 by cops, over half of which were ruled good shootings in court... but refuse to do or even SAY anything about the 18 black on black murders LAST SUNDAY in Chicago...just 1 day. Just 1 city. Not over a year in country of 340 million people....

The hypocrisy and willfull ignorance is just too much to swallow for rational, logical people. It is clear that ONLY SOME black lives matter...only the few that can be used as an excuse to root, loot, and harm. All those other 92% are never even mentioned, much less have any energy put into trying to stop them from happening.

The liberal media is complicit, and a big part of the problem. They are perfectly willing to play along, as long as they can make up an angle to pass the blame to anyone besides liberals. They use and patronize the black folks just like the rest of the Democrats...not because the actually care about their plight...but because they are simply a TOOL to be used.... a means to an end...to hopefully help the Dems keep some power despite the fact that their policies have been absolute FAILURES at everything except enriching other elite Dems.

It is a shame to see. People like Thomas Sowell who see the Truth and scream it as loud as they can are ignored....as the Dem pied piper leads more and more astray...

 

[landscapingvol]

Why the 92% of black folks being shot by other black folks just doesnt matter to BLM or Liberals...I have no idea.

When yall want to burn down cities because all of 9 unarmed black men were killed in 2019 by cops, over half of which were ruled good shootings in court... but refuse to do or even SAY anything about the 18 black on black murders LAST SUNDAY in Chicago...just 1 day. Just 1 city. Not over a year in country of 340 million people....

The hypocrisy and willfull ignorance is just too much to swallow for rational, logical people. It is clear that ONLY SOME black lives matter...only the few that can be used as an excuse to root, loot, and harm. All those other 92% are never even mentioned, much less have any energy put into trying to stop them from happening.

The liberal media is complicit, and a big part of the problem. They are perfectly willing to play along, as long as they can make up an angle to pass the blame to anyone besides liberals. They use and patronize the black folks just like the rest of the Democrats...not because the actually care about their plight...but because they are simply a TOOL to be used.... a means to an end...to hopefully help the Dems keep some power despite the fact that their policies have been absolute FAILURES at everything except enriching other elite Dems.

It is a shame to see. People like Thomas Sowell who see the Truth and scream it as loud as they can are ignored....as the Dem pied piper leads more and more astray...

The BLM movement and its followers value woke takes on Twitter, memes on Facebook, and kneeling in solidarity more than they do actual actions that improve young African American males life. I work, coach, and mentor in the inner city and it is nearly impossible to find volunteers to help yet millions claim to support the BLM movement. Most don’t care and those that do care only enough to make a statement on Twitter or show up for an hour at a rally.

 

[landscapingvol]

Going back and forth with that guy is a fascinating look into a cop's mindset.

A- He automatically knows more than you because he's a cop, despite him having no clue what you do.

B- If you question him about anything you're clearly just a low-life idiot.

C- You wouldn't last a second in the real world, because you're not a cop.

D- Cops are right 99.9% of the time and rarely make mistakes.

Hard to see how cops are having a problem on the streets right now with that kind of mindset.

I can see why it would be hard living in your make believe World where cops roam the streets looking for black men to lynch or shoot. The problem is that World doesn’t exist outside of CHAZ, Twitter, and your imagination. The fact is most cops are decent and perform their jobs well. Who will be the next make believe enemy to deflect to for everything wrong with society for the perpetually offended? Global warming? 5G cell phone towers? You have already blamed white people, slavery, guns, 1%, Wall Street, education, prisons, Republicans, the South, society, and the police. Soon, you will run out of make believe enemies

 

[BartW]

Because of his actions and planting evidence. Scott didn’t actually have the taser.

Scott did take the taser at some point. A witness heard Slager say "Let go of the taser before I shoot you!” Did you see Frame 394? Slager said he didn’t realize that Scott had actually dropped the taser at some point. Therefore, he was justified in fearing for his life and the citizens of all of North Charleston. That’s how your logic goes, right? There’s a violent criminal who assaulted an officer on the loose with a taser. Who knows what he's capable of! Scott deserved to die. Play stupid games win stupid prizes etc. etc. You weren’t around here back then but if you were… well, we all know how that thread would’ve gone.

Slager didn’t get 20 years for planting evidence. He got 20 years for murder.

But you’re right, since the most recent incident happened in Georgia and not South Carolina, this is actually all OK. No problem, nothing to see here, move along folks.

 

[BartW]

Well done admonishing for painting all cops with a broad brush while simultaneously doing the exact same thing with protestors as rioters.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Why the 92% of black folks being shot by other black folks just doesnt matter to BLM or Liberals...I have no idea.

When yall want to burn down cities because all of 9 unarmed black men were killed in 2019 by cops, over half of which were ruled good shootings in court... but refuse to do or even SAY anything about the 18 black on black murders LAST SUNDAY in Chicago...just 1 day. Just 1 city. Not over a year in country of 340 million people....

The hypocrisy and willfull ignorance is just too much to swallow for rational, logical people. It is clear that ONLY SOME black lives matter...only the few that can be used as an excuse to root, loot, and harm. All those other 92% are never even mentioned, much less have any energy put into trying to stop them from happening.

The liberal media is complicit, and a big part of the problem. They are perfectly willing to play along, as long as they can make up an angle to pass the blame to anyone besides liberals. They use and patronize the black folks just like the rest of the Democrats...not because the actually care about their plight...but because they are simply a TOOL to be used.... a means to an end...to hopefully help the Dems keep some power despite the fact that their policies have been absolute FAILURES at everything except enriching other elite Dems.

It is a shame to see. People like Thomas Sowell who see the Truth and scream it as loud as they can are ignored....as the Dem pied piper leads more and more astray...

Why Civil Rights Attorney Leo Terrell 'Stopped Drinking the Democratic Kool-Aid'

 

[Rickyvol77]

Going back and forth with that guy is a fascinating look into a cop's mindset.

A- He automatically knows more than you because he's a cop, despite him having no clue what you do.

B- If you question him about anything you're clearly just a low-life idiot.

C- You wouldn't last a second in the real world, because you're not a cop.

D- Cops are right 99.9% of the time and rarely make mistakes.

Hard to see how cops are having a problem on the streets right now with that kind of mindset.

A - nope I only say that when posters clearly show they don’t understand the law at all with their statements

B- nope just the ones who constantly make excuses for criminal behaviors

C- nope you wouldn’t last as an officer for a second because you have no idea what it takes

D - never said that either, cops are humans and some make mistakes. But the intelligence to know what is a “mistake” vs informed judgment is lost on some

 

[Rickyvol77]

Scott did take the taser at some point. A witness heard Slager say "Let go of the taser before I shoot you!” Did you see Frame 394? Slager said he didn’t realize that Scott had actually dropped the taser at some point. Therefore, he was justified in fearing for his life and the citizens of all of North Charleston. That’s how your logic goes, right? There’s a violent criminal who assaulted an officer on the loose with a taser. Who knows what he's capable of! Scott deserved to die. Play stupid games win stupid prizes etc. etc. You weren’t around here back then but if you were… well, we all know how that thread would’ve gone.

Slager didn’t get 20 years for planting evidence. He got 20 years for murder.

But you’re right, since the most recent incident happened in Georgia and not South Carolina, this is actually all OK. No problem, nothing to see here, move along folks.

Wrong again Slager knew Scott had dropped the taser as the video shown, and then moved the taser towards Scott’s body because he knew he messed up. That’s what got him convicted

 

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