George Floyd Protest/Riots

[volfanhill]

I said that Chauvin’s “excessive force complaints” were shootings that were legal and cleared by courts. And I did call Floyd a career violent criminal. So what? I said what Chauvin did was wrong[/QUOTE

I said that Chauvin’s “excessive force complaints” were shootings that were legal and cleared by courts. And I did call Floyd a career violent criminal. So what? I said what Chauvin did was wrong

Lol so it was cleared. You and I both know that’s ********. My brother is a cop and a former GBI agent. My best friend is a retired N.Y. correctional officer who also handled escape and absconding. Blue line is ******** and it’s done all the time. Still waiting by the way on my Arbery question.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I can actually understand the shooting. But how long before they rendered aid?

If you understand then why have you stated otherwise the past ten or so posts? Render aid? What should they have done more, get the bullets out of his heart?

 

[volfanhill]

At what a cognizant post from you?

The one about Arbery. We’re now at 8.

 

[volfanhill]

If you understand then why have you stated otherwise the past ten or so posts? Render aid? What should they have done more, get the bullets out of his heart?

Check pulse? Provide CPR? Do that before they walk around. I understand it but I don’t agree with it

 

[Rickyvol77]

So what did Chauvin do wrong on his previous shooting in your “educated” opinion?

 

[1972 Grad]

Define close

Close would be between the shooter and shootee, or on a line behind the shootee. It looked wide open behind him from all views that I have seen.

 

[Rickyvol77]

The one about Arbery. We’re now at 8.

I answered it. Show me evidence that Arbery knew they had guns before the son stepped out of the truck

 

[volfanhill]

I answered it. Show me evidence that Arbery knew they had guns before the son stepped out of the truck

Not what I asked. If it were a cop being chased down should they assume they are under threat?

 

[rjd970]

These deaths seem to have one thing in common. They all resisted. They would all be alive if they had complied.

Which deaths? Breonna Taylor was sleeping. Literally, asleep in her own bed at home.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Not what I asked. If it were a cop being chased down should they assume they are under threat?

I’ve never seen a cop “chased down” outside of a mob/crowd control situation so it would have to be a case to case basis.

If the McMichaels pointed their guns at Arbery or said to him “stop or I’ll shoot you/kill you” then the case can be made that Arbery has the right to defend himself

Following him in a truck and calling the police doesn’t rise to the level of I need to run 30 feet to punch that guy in the face about 5 times and steal his gun without more distinct evidence

 

[Rickyvol77]

Which deaths? Breonna Taylor was sleeping. Literally, asleep in her own bed at home.

They weren’t trying to shoot Taylor. They were returning fire to a room that had a criminal shooting at them

 

[volfanhill]

I’ve never seen a cop “chased down” outside of a mob/crowd control situation so it would have to be a case to case basis.

If the McMichaels pointed their guns at Arbery or said to him “stop or I’ll shoot you/kill you” then the case can be made that Arbery has the right to defend himself

Following him in a truck and calling the police doesn’t rise to the level of I need to run 30 feet to punch that guy in the face about 5 times and steal his gun without more distinct evidence

So a cop wouldn’t be threatened if chased after by a car or truck?

 

[Rickyvol77]

So a cop wouldn’t be threatened if chased after by a car or truck?

Jesus you are slow. Ok let me answer yet again on the “case by case” basis answer

If a police officer is driving and a car “chases them” and shines lights trying to get them to stop, the officer could stop and get out to investigate

The person might be threatening and leave the car shouting curse words and threats and raises a gun towards the officer. Bang bang they likely would get shot

Same scenario with car chasing the police car but when the officer stops, a scared guy with a gun in his hand (pointed down) says I need help officer, the officer likely would draw their weapon and ask them to drop the gun and would not shoot them if they complied. In this scenario, the scared person with gun just shot a carjacker the street over and needed help

This is why case by case facts matter and not just some standardized “well police did this one time” answer

 

[Rickyvol77]

So what did Chauvin do wrong on his previous shooting in your “educated” opinion?

@volfanhill this was for you

 

[DynaLo]

Obvious that he was running away with a non-lethal weapon.

You do know that well over a thousand people have died from tasers right?

So your repeated proclamations of non-lethal weapon is either purposely disingenuous or utterly clueless.

 

[Weezer]

I’ve never seen a cop “chased down” outside of a mob/crowd control situation so it would have to be a case to case basis.

If the McMichaels pointed their guns at Arbery or said to him “stop or I’ll shoot you/kill you” then the case can be made that Arbery has the right to defend himself

Following him in a truck and calling the police doesn’t rise to the level of I need to run 30 feet to punch that guy in the face about 5 times and steal his gun without more distinct evidence

Cannot believe you're still carrying water for the McMichaels.

 

[Weezer]

I answered it. Show me evidence that Arbery knew they had guns before the son stepped out of the truck

Where did Arbery attack the son before he got out of his vehicle with a shotgun?

 

[volsarelife1]

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I mean, if the armed policing of food isn't oppression, what is?

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Now if they only stop enforcing selling loose cigarettes...

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Maybe I can stop paying property taxes, insurance, and having to register my vehicles.

I'm down with you, brother.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Liberals came up with those laws to begin with

And cops eagerly enforced them.

Oh, "...I was just doing my job."

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I don't think it's okay to shoot a fleeing man, but I also don't think it's okay to resist arrest.

Well as we have seen, the penalty for resisting arrest should be death.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

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"STOP RESISTING!!!"

 

[C-south]

I'm down with you, brother.

Unfortunately that type of bureaucracy exists for every contributing member of society.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Cannot believe you're still carrying water for the McMichaels.

Who said I was? I have stated time and again I didn’t agree with what they did