George Floyd Protest/Riots

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hog88 said:
My question and 72 touched on the subject, why do black people feel tied to the democratic party? From the outside looking in the Democrats have done little to nothing for black people except use them for their votes.
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And made promises they haven't kept.
 
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Weezer said:
Not really. The location only matters if you buy into this belief that Trump is a "white supremacist". Would you have the same reaction to Biden, or any white person, having a rally in Tulsa? Should white people just avoid Tulsa in general? You made an absurd assertion and got called on it. Just own it and let it go.
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Yeah I would. But Biden wouldn't do that because it would piss off a lot of people. Esp right now of all times. Dude probably has dementia but he wouldn't do something that stupid. It's not absurd.. Every major news outlet is reporting how PO'd people are.

Critics decry Trump election rally in city of Tulsa race massacre on Juneteenth

Trump’s Juneteenth rally in Tulsa to inflame racial tension

'Slap in the face to black people': Trump faces backlash over rally on Juneteenth
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Some more facts about the massacre since we're all so interested in history.

"The attack, carried out on the ground and from private aircraft, destroyed more than 35 square blocks of the district—at that time the wealthiest black community in the United States, known as "Black Wall Street".

About 10,000 black people were left homeless, and property damage amounted to more than $1.5 million in real estate and $750,000 in personal property (equivalent to $32.25 million in 2019). Their property was never recovered nor were they compensated for it.

More than 800 people were admitted to hospitals and as many as 6,000 black residents were interned at large facilities, many for several days"

Many survivors left Tulsa, while black and white residents who stayed in the city were silent for decades about the terror, violence, and losses of this event. The massacre was largely omitted from local, state, and national histories. In 2020, the massacre became part of the Oklahoma school curriculum."
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And who started shooting people first?
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Yeah I would. But Biden wouldn't do that because it would piss off a lot of people. Esp right now of all times. Dude probably has dementia but he wouldn't do something that stupid. It's not absurd.. Every major news outlet is reporting how PO'd people are.

Critics decry Trump election rally in city of Tulsa race massacre on Juneteenth

Trump’s Juneteenth rally in Tulsa to inflame racial tension

'Slap in the face to black people': Trump faces backlash over rally on Juneteenth
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In today's world, being reported by major news outlets does not equate to truth. I don't even like Trump, but I'm not going to make **** up. People are trying to stoke outrage. They're selling a narrative and you've completely bought in.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
And who started shooting people first?
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Not taking the bait lol I'm not pointing fingers at white or black people on the situation, and I'd recommend you do the same. Obviously the black folks got the short end of the stick at the end of the day but that's not the point. You don't hold a campaign rally there on the day the slaves were freed.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Not taking the bait lol I'm not pointing fingers at white or black people on the situation, and I'd recommend you do the same. Obviously the black folks got the short end of the stick at the end of the day but that's not the point. You don't hold a campaign rally there on the day the slaves were freed.
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Well he’s not either because your facts weren’t even right so what kind of irrational person jumps to the conclusion he’s “clearly racist for doing so”
 
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Weezer said:
In today's world, being reported by major news outlets does not equate to truth. I don't even like Trump, but I'm not going to make **** up. People are trying to stoke outrage. They're selling a narrative and you've completely bought in.
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Even that's the case, don't talk to me like I'm stupid or reaching or some **** like that. Because, frankly most educated people in the world would see it like I do on this situation. You might disagree, and I respect your opinion, but you can cut it out with the 4th grade schoolyard bull****
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Even that's the case, don't talk to me like I'm stupid or reaching or some **** like that. Because, frankly most educated people in the world would see it like I do on this situation. You might disagree, and I respect your opinion, but you can cut it out with the 4th grade schoolyard bull****
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I absolutely think you're reaching. I'd say the same thing to "most educated people" as well.
 
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Weezer said:
I absolutely think you're reaching. I'd say the same thing to "most educated people" as well.
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That's fine, and we can disagree. Poor verbiage on my part. But it's sure as **** not "absurd" to think it's stupid and racist AF to hold a rally in Tulsa on that date. It's reasonable.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
That's fine, and we can disagree. Poor verbiage on my part. But it's sure as **** not "absurd" to think it's stupid and racist AF to hold a rally in Tulsa on that date. It's reasonable.
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You're entitled to your opinion, but yes, I find your opinion absurd and unreasonable. Has nothing to do with your intelligence.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Obviously there are plenty of racist Democrats, esp. older ones that were around before Goldwater and LBJ. But ties to the black community on issues across the board flipped after civil rights legislation, and the NAACP and black groups have been tied to the Democratic party ever since. I ain't even saying that the Democrats have done a good job on civil rights issues. I'm just saying where the lines have been drawn politically.
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The NAACP has had how long and how much money thrown at them? Seems like it's not working. They don't preach personal responsibility. Just like any organization with money and power...I see fat asses and the people they tout they are helping, yet nothing changes.
Perhaps the organizations tied to the Democratic party should change up and see what happens. What do they have to lose? It would expose people within the organizations that are corrupt. They will be the ones screaming bloody murder because their income stream will dry up. Will be easy to spot.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
The NAACP has had how long and how much money thrown at them? Seems like it's not working. They don't preach personal responsibility. Just like any organization with money and power...I see fat asses and the people they tout they are helping, yet nothing changes.
Perhaps the organizations tied to the Democratic party should change up and see what happens. What do they have to lose? It would expose people within the organizations that are corrupt. They will be the ones screaming bloody murder because their income stream will dry up. Will be easy to spot.
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They are already easy to spot.

They don't care.
 
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Weezer said:
I don't see it as good or bad or racist. It's just a rally, and people are just looking to stir the pot. Not everything has some secret double meaning to it.
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Have you noticed that there are tens of thousands of angry protestors in the streets? How do you think they're going to feel after this happens? It's practically a dangerous thing to do and I would NOT be surprised if there was more violence in the streets after this rally. It's stupid. Plain and simple.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Have you noticed that there are tens of thousands of angry protestors in the streets? How do you think they're going to feel after this happens? It's practically a dangerous thing to do and I would NOT be surprised if there was more violence in the streets after this rally. It's stupid. Plain and simple.
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Yes, the people engaging in violence in the streets are stupid. I agree with that.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Even that's the case, don't talk to me like I'm stupid or reaching or some **** like that. Because, frankly most educated people in the world would see it like I do on this situation. You might disagree, and I respect your opinion, but you can cut it out with the 4th grade schoolyard bull****
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That's a fallacy ad populum.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
Even that's the case, don't talk to me like I'm stupid or reaching or some **** like that. Because, frankly most educated people in the world would see it like I do on this situation. You might disagree, and I respect your opinion, but you can cut it out with the 4th grade schoolyard bull****
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Lmao what is it with some of these nutjobs here who think “most educated people” “most black people” “most women” etc agree with me. That is a sure sign of someone projecting.
 
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