TnScooby
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Thought police are everywhere. Just make **** up and sling it. There are plenty of weak minded individuals that won't bother making their own decisions as long as someone else tells them what to think.To be fair, there is no conclusive evidence showing that. How does one conclude intention of another person?
“What Juan Jennings did is completely different than the targeting calls that should have been called in IU’s favor. During a scrum on the sidelines during the Vandy game, he stepped, very purposely, on the head of a Vandy player and raked his cleats down the helmet. This is just the latest in a laundry list of issues this guy’s had. Most folks I’ve talked to here in Knoxville are done with him and would have preferred he was dismissed. It’s really a shame. He’s an NFL talent and he’s short circuiting his own opportunity”
(deep breath)
Vandy number 88 jumped in and grabbed JJ, pushed him around and then let him go. He should have been the one suspended. No way JJ keeps firm footing being shaken by 88 plus our guys. Whole thing is ********.The hit was legit and in bounds. I thought vandy team tore helmet off. Nothing to show JJ did that. Whether step (not stomp) was intentional it's impossible to say.
I personally don't think it was and that he was caught up in the things going around him and never looked down. But I also think he wasn't sorry at all when he found out about it. That response, also still in the fog of the moment, is why some think it was intentional. He should have immediately apologized but again I don't think he realized how it looked until he saw it on video. I think if he knew he intentionally stepped on him, he would have been quicker to apologise actually.
My take on that was he wanted to get out of the way so he could celebrate a great hit. He wasn't looking where he was stepping, but where his teammates were so he could chest bump someone. Understandable thing to do, unfortunate in the outcome.
guess you didn't notice the two Vanderbilt players coming to the players aid that hit him from behind to try and pull him off and the general scrum gong on around him. At first glance, I would say most people didn't even notice he had stepped on the Vanderbilt player until they showed the numerous replays. I didn't notice it myself until the second time it was shown. I was noticing the nearly maniacal rant he was on and I really don't think he even knew where he was for a minute or two. Once again, frustration got the better of JJ.Guys he's one of ours and I hope he has a great second half. But its my opinion the step on the guys head was most likely intentional. If you're now standing over a man you've been wrestling with on the ground you pretty much know where he is. Take off the Orange shades and accept it for what it is.
The hit was legit and in bounds. I thought vandy team tore helmet off. Nothing to show JJ did that. Whether step (not stomp) was intentional it's impossible to say.
I personally don't think it was and that he was caught up in the things going around him and never looked down. But I also think he wasn't sorry at all when he found out about it. That response, also still in the fog of the moment, is why some think it was intentional. He should have immediately apologized but again I don't think he realized how it looked until he saw it on video. I think if he knew he intentionally stepped on him, he would have been quicker to apologise actually.
LOL. You sure are willing to give JJ plenty of Artistic Latitude. He knew what he was doing; I'm just glad the other guy wasn't seriously hurt. That could have been a Haynesworth Moment. If your brother commits a crime, Is he not still guilty in spite of your connection to him, and your desire to play it down? Yes.
I hate saying it but it did appear he did step on that guys head intentionally...Hell he even said on the sidelines he stepped on that guys head...He was very hyper and excited and words were probably exchanged after the tackle...The punishment is just and he'll get to come back in the 2nd half and be Indiana's nightmare.
Look at it again. Vandy players were coming to confront him. The best you can say is he hit the returner right at the sideline, knocking him across the orange tarp into various sideline stuff. Then, he raised up and did some taunting behavior. A staff member came over to defuse the situation. Then some of the Vandy players came off the field. Not to aid their teammate, but to confront Jennings. Chest bump? That much of your take is horse crap. And he was not "celebrating". He was POed.
His only real defense is if he had intentionally stomped on his head, the player would have probably been bleeding. I think his foot came down as the first Vandy player got to him, because he was looking at him, and not where his foot was going. In reality, Jennings should have, after they stopped riding the slip and slide, he should have gotten up, and walked back toward the field. Or maybe helped the opponent up, and then said something snarky. No getting around the obvious. Jennings made some bad choices in those few seconds.
Just from your screen name, I suggest you stay off the beach. You may be getting way too much sun. As to whatever you are mastering? Make sure I am not there when you are.
“What Juan Jennings did is completely different than the targeting calls that should have been called in IU’s favor. During a scrum on the sidelines during the Vandy game, he stepped, very purposely, on the head of a Vandy player and raked his cleats down the helmet. This is just the latest in a laundry list of issues this guy’s had. Most folks I’ve talked to here in Knoxville are done with him and would have preferred he was dismissed. It’s really a shame. He’s an NFL talent and he’s short circuiting his own opportunity”
(deep breath)
“What Juan Jennings did is completely different than the targeting calls that should have been called in IU’s favor. During a scrum on the sidelines during the Vandy game, he stepped, very purposely, on the head of a Vandy player and raked his cleats down the helmet. This is just the latest in a laundry list of issues this guy’s had. Most folks I’ve talked to here in Knoxville are done with him and would have preferred he was dismissed. It’s really a shame. He’s an NFL talent and he’s short circuiting his own opportunity”
(deep breath)
Lot of silliness in this thread. In real time it is absolutely impossible to tell if it's on purpose. Watching it in slow motion tells you nothing because these things (including intent) don't happen in slow motion. A lot of things look avoidable in slow motion that are not at real speed.
Aside: reviews on targeting and other ejection questions (basketball and football) should always be viewed in real time. If you cannot tell if something was intentional or avoidable in real time then it probably wasn't.
It's been repeatedly stated here that Vandy was getting their azzes handed to them and they were frustrated. They took to talking smack on the field and JJ don't like them anyway so he decided the punt return was a good opportunity to shut 'em up. Just part of football on rival week and Chizk on the SEC network stated, nothing unusual, this type of play is happening all over the country this week. Bottom line..........blown out of proportion.As to the incident in question, nobody but Jennings was there when it came off. Dislodged by the hit? Maybe. But the Vandy player tearing off his own helmet while laying on his back? No. His teammates weren't there. Now were they trying to do that at other points in the game? Yes. And I am sure that is what led to that.
It's been repeatedly stated here that Vandy was getting their azzes handed to them and they were frustrated. They took to talking smack on the field and JJ don't like them anyway so he decided the punt return was a good opportunity to shut 'em up. Just part of football on rival week and Chizk on the SEC network stated, nothing unusual, this type of play is happening all over the country this week. Bottom line..........blown out of proportion.