Our QB room will be the best in the SEC

When it comes to you of coarse all I talk is Maurer because you constantly put things on this board about him that you clearly know nothing about. Otherwise I’d have no reason to comment on any of your posts. As for being a “handler” of Maurer.... once again.... you have no idea who I am, who I know, who knows me or my association with him. I don’t put what I do out there because of people such as yourself that would only 1- tell me I’m lying 2- claim I don’t know what I’m doing or 3- make a mockery of it somehow. Neither of the 3 are arguments I chose to entertain because they’d be childish. I will however entertain (call out) someone posting lies in reference to someone I know to be false. All you need to know is I know more than you think I do. So posting something as fact without research is not something I’ll let you get away with. ESPECIALLY when you’ve made it such a habit.
All that said answer me this, did any of the receivers that played on Brian Maurer's high school team in '18 or any other year go on to play college or receive an offer, at any level?
 
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And I wouldn’t count on it. The reason I joined this board has nothing to do with him. VN has some of the most football intelligent fans I’ve ever seen and I joined to talk to them. @sjt18 , @butchna(even though we don’t always get along he’s extremely intelligent), @LittleVol to name a few. Of coarse I knew there would be a few of you too but you gotta take the good with the bad on boards like these.

Hey thanks man 😅.
To be mentioned with @sjt18 and @butchna is pretty cool.
I definitely respect their minds.

As far as Maurer, Pruitt really should have let him play earlier. As in GA State. He mishandled him horribly this year. Kid could never get into a comfort zone. Threw him out against the wolves and his psyche got shook, because had no real game experience yet. GA State, BYU and Chatt were prime opportunities to get acclimated.
Instead he was always forcing things and could never relax and play. JG get opportunities over and over and over, but Maurer was always walking on egg shells, and he made some very rookie mistakes and Pruitt was always looking to pull him.

Jarrett Gaurantano still can't be depended on. You never know what you're going to get with him. Its maddening...
Harrison Bailey if he comes here is going to bring a lot of pressure. Its not the situation I predicted. Kudos to Maurer for being an awesome teammate tho. JG as well.

It could play out a lot of ways.
Will the QB room remain selfless and supportive?
Or will an Alpha emerge?
 
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this upcoming Spring. We will have a veteran 3rd year starter, who while inconsistent, has proven to be a serviceable SEC starter ranking in the upper tier of all returning SEC QBs, we will have Blue Chip Fr Harrison Bailey, our highest acclaimed QB recruit since Peyton, Brian Maurer who has flashed well at times and seems to have the capabilities to be an SEC starter at QB, Big JT who is as physically gifted as anyone at the position with his prototypical size and cannon type arm strength and walkon Hill who has more experience than all other backups combined.

Guarantano, Bailey, Maurer, Hill, Shrout in my opinion will be the best QB group in the SEC come SPRING practice!

Pruitt will have his hands full keeping that group together past spring practice, but if he does then the next 3-4 seasons should be fun.

On another note, we could also have the best OL group, LB group and secondary in the SEC in '20 as well. Pruitt has really turned the roster over going into his 3rd year.

One of the dumber statements ever uttered on here...and that’s saying something. Good work kid, keep it up.
 
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Hey thanks man 😅.
To be mentioned with @sjt18 and @butchna is pretty cool.
I definitely respect their minds.

As far as Maurer, Pruitt really should have let him play earlier. As in GA State. He mishandled him horribly this year. Kid could never get into a comfort zone. Threw him out against the wolves and his psyche got shook, because had no real game experience yet. GA State, BYU and Chatt were prime opportunities to get acclimated.
Instead he was always forcing things and could never relax and play. JG get opportunities over and over and over, but Maurer was always walking on egg shells, and he made some very rookie mistakes and Pruitt was always looking to pull him.

Jarrett Gaurantano still can't be depended on. You never know what you're going to get with him. Its maddening...
Harrison Bailey if he comes here is going to bring a lot of pressure. Its not the situation I predicted. Kudos to Maurer for being an awesome teammate tho. JG as well.

It could play out a lot of ways.
Will the QB room remain selfless and supportive?
Or will an Alpha emerge?
Was Maurer ready to play that position that early vs Georgia St and when should Pruitt had inserted him? Did JG not throw for well over 300 yards that game?
I too think Coach Pruitt may have mishandled BM but in a much different way. I would like to have seen how competitive our QB room would be with a 215 lb healthy RS FR Maurer with a full year to learn the playbook and get stronger physically and a clean slate based on the unknown, a JG coming off an underwhelming 8-5 season, a somewhat experienced Sophomore in JT who would have played backup all this year, Hill and blue chip recruit Bailey. I could easily see Maurer and Bailey possible coming out ahead of JG in that situation. As it has played out this year, because of how well JG finished the season and because he was the only QB producing in November all while playing with a broken hand, because of Maurer's history of injury, whether fair or not (probably cost him a month of weight lifting and conditioning), , and because of JTs lack of experience leads me to believe that JG will now most certainly be named the likely starter coming out of spring. Had Maurer been able to finish games I've really no idea what our record would be as every Fr other than Nix struggled to win games this year in the conference. Had Maurer stayed the starter and we finished 5-7 then without a doubt I believe JG would have transferred and the fans would be clamoring for Bailey from day 1. I think Pruitt got a bit lucky really with how it's all worked out. I also think he will have a very short leash on JG next year.
 
All that said answer me this, did any of the receivers that played on Brian Maurer's high school team in '18 go on to play college or receive an offer, at any level?
Yes. 3 of them. All d2. But you missed the point. You claiming that he played with 3-4 college caliber WRs is false BECAUSE none of them had their own offers going into the 2018 season. They were earned as a result of HIS qb play as much as them making the catches in 2018. In 2017 those same receivers dropped an average of 11 balls a game. In 2018 they cut the average to 5 and earned those offers. Also there’s a HUGE difference in a D1 receiver vs a d2 receiver. Size, speed and route running abilities have a lot to do with that difference. I don’t think you understand the level of accuracy it takes to throw to 3 receivers, all under 6’1. Their catch radius is near half of a receiver 6’4. In fact 2 of the 3 receivers were 5’10 and 5’11. You also don’t seem to understand the difference in Florida Hs football vs Georgia. And that’s ok. But I have seen the difference. Florida is a faster game. It’s also the most condensed therefore more D1 talent in any given area (team). Now this particular post I don’t mean any disrespect. But I answered your question. Now answer mine truthfully. In 2017 BM averaged 1.8 seconds of protection from snap to sack if he didn’t make a move. In 2018 they improved to 2.3 seconds. If you swapped qbs and put HB behind that o line with those receivers do you think he puts up BMs numbers?
 
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Was Maurer ready to play that position that early vs Georgia St and when should Pruitt had inserted him? Did JG not throw for well over 300 yards that game?
I too think Coach Pruitt may have mishandled BM but in a much different way. I would like to have seen how competitive our QB room would be with a 215 lb healthy RS FR Maurer with a full year to learn the playbook and get stronger physically and a clean slate based on the unknown, a JG coming off an underwhelming 8-5 season, a somewhat experienced Sophomore in JT who would have played backup all this year, Hill and blue chip recruit Bailey. I could easily see Maurer and Bailey possible coming out ahead of JG in that situation. As it has played out this year, because of how well JG finished the season and because he was the only QB producing in November all while playing with a broken hand, because of Maurer's history of injury, whether fair or not (probably cost him a month of weight lifting and conditioning), , and because of JTs lack of experience leads me to believe that JG will now most certainly be named the likely starter coming out of spring. Had Maurer been able to finish games I've really no idea what our record would be as every Fr other than Nix struggled to win games this year in the conference. Had Maurer stayed the starter and we finished 5-7 then without a doubt I believe JG would have transferred and the fans would be clamoring for Bailey from day 1. I think Pruitt got a bit lucky really with how it's all worked out. I also think he will have a very short leash on JG next year.
I believe he wanted just that. To redshirt him.
But JG was playing REALLY REALLY bad and he was forces to play him.

JG turned the ball over and consistently put the defense in bad positions both games.
Maurer was ready for GaState, which would have gotten him prepared enough for BYU, which he then would have really shined against Chatt and then came into the Florida game more settled....MAYBE. We'll never know.

JG overcomplicates football. He's too into his head. When he trust his progessions and just plays...he's an awesome QB! He tore Mizzou 8th ranked defense apart...AFTER Maurer came in for a play. It's all psychological for him.

Now you have Bailey who is highly touted and talented QB. Maurer had glimpses of brilliance with a lot of gut wrenching plays you see from a freshman. But he can run too.

Maurer will improve. Bailey is going to put a lot of pressure on that position.

I don't know what's going to happen.
 
Hey thanks man 😅.
To be mentioned with @sjt18 and @butchna is pretty cool.
I definitely respect their minds.

As far as Maurer, Pruitt really should have let him play earlier. As in GA State. He mishandled him horribly this year. Kid could never get into a comfort zone. Threw him out against the wolves and his psyche got shook, because had no real game experience yet. GA State, BYU and Chatt were prime opportunities to get acclimated.
Instead he was always forcing things and could never relax and play. JG get opportunities over and over and over, but Maurer was always walking on egg shells, and he made some very rookie mistakes and Pruitt was always looking to pull him.

Jarrett Gaurantano still can't be depended on. You never know what you're going to get with him. Its maddening...
Harrison Bailey if he comes here is going to bring a lot of pressure. Its not the situation I predicted. Kudos to Maurer for being an awesome teammate tho. JG as well.

It could play out a lot of ways.
Will the QB room remain selfless and supportive?
Or will an Alpha emerge?
I’m in full support of Pruitt but I’ll always say the same thing. He severely damaged the future of the qb position at UT with his mishandling of it. And we won’t see the results of it until after 2020. Had he benched JG and never looked back at halftime of GAST we likely still lose to GAST. Maurer would’ve beaten BYU imo and he would’ve been getting acclimated to the speed of the game and used UTC as a punching bag. By the time UGA rolled around he would’ve been settled in and making better decisions. Which possibly means a better second half. He was absolutely dissecting MSU before landing on his head ang Alabama didn’t have an answer for him either. Imo his injury is the only reason Pruitt was EVER able to say “I told you so”. Because before that Maurer made him look like a fool for not doing exactly what we’re talking about.
 
I’m in full support of Pruitt but I’ll always say the same thing. He severely damaged the future of the qb position at UT with his mishandling of it. And we won’t see the results of it until after 2020. Had he benched JG and never looked back at halftime of GAST we likely still lose to GAST. Maurer would’ve beaten BYU imo and he would’ve been getting acclimated to the speed of the game and used UTC as a punching bag. By the time UGA rolled around he would’ve been settled in and making better decisions. Which possibly means a better second half. He was absolutely dissecting MSU before landing on his head ang Alabama didn’t have an answer for him either. Imo his injury is the only reason Pruitt was EVER able to say “I told you so”. Because before that Maurer made him look like a fool for not doing exactly what we’re talking about.

Yeah i agree.
And now Bailey gets to come in with two sophomores 5 star tackles who took their lumps as freshman and will be All-Conference tackles next year. Whoever wins QB job should flourish.

Even if JG transfers. And leaves Maurer and Bailey. Maurer still has the game experience. And now since Pruitt he will have Bailey on the team already, he won't worry abkht pulling him if he starts to make freshman mistakes and then plug Maurer in.

Just like he did with JG and Maurer...

I think you'll see a continuation of shuffling QBs in 2020.
The selflessness of the QB room thus this year helped our offense which helped the defense. I don't believe Bailey will be that way. He wants to start. And he'll have the chance.
So will Maurer. But he can't be Mr. Nice guy anymore ...imo
 
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Yes. 3 of them. All d2. But you missed the point. You claiming that he played with 3-4 college caliber WRs is false BECAUSE none of them had their own offers going into the 2018 season. They were earned as a result of HIS qb play as much as them making the catches in 2018. In 2017 those same receivers dropped an average of 11 balls a game. In 2018 they cut the average to 5 and earned those offers. Also there’s a HUGE difference in a D1 receiver vs a d2 receiver. Size, speed and route running abilities have a lot to do with that difference. I don’t think you understand the level of accuracy it takes to throw to 3 receivers, all under 6’1. Their catch radius is near half of a receiver 6’4. In fact 2 of the 3 receivers were 5’10 and 5’11. You also don’t seem to understand the difference in Florida Hs football vs Georgia. And that’s ok. But I have seen the difference. Florida is a faster game. It’s also the most condensed therefore more D1 talent in any given area (team). Now this particular post I don’t mean any disrespect. But I answered your question. Now answer mine truthfully. In 2017 BM averaged 1.8 seconds of protection from snap to sack if he didn’t make a move. In 2018 they improved to 2.3 seconds. If you swapped qbs and put HB behind that o line with those receivers do you think he puts up BMs numbers?
You always have an excuse for Maurer's deficiencies and give him the credit for the success of those around him. As for the comparison I don't play if games, far too many factors involved and i believe that's horse hockey crediting Maurer as the reason those kids went on to get scholarships. That's a huge insult to each of them as THE PLAYER themselves are why they got that scholarship, not Maurer, not you, not me, not a recruiting service or a coach, the kid earned it himself no matter what level they ended up. Maybe they got better through working hard at the game, maybe they put the same amount of time in as BM their senior season, why does it matter when they got the offer. You called me a liar, even had some bunch of goons on here agreeing, howling for me to put up or shut up all while you knew there were 3 college to be WRs on Maurer's high school team, bush league move kiddo. AFWIW, I believe its Bailey as to why his high school is suddenly competing for championships as they might still be a good team without him but are a great high school team with him. I can give many more examples of bad high schools becoming good because of great QB play than I can of great QBs playing on losing high school teams. My high school team had never come close to winning a state title in football until a QB named Bo Wallace led us to a title his Sr year. I also think Florida is an extremely talented high school football state, top 5, Maurer's district ranks at the bottom in the state. I asked this once but how many state Champions have come from that district?
 
this upcoming Spring. We will have a veteran 3rd year starter, who while inconsistent, has proven to be a serviceable SEC starter ranking in the upper tier of all returning SEC QBs, we will have Blue Chip Fr Harrison Bailey, our highest acclaimed QB recruit since Peyton, Brian Maurer who has flashed well at times and seems to have the capabilities to be an SEC starter at QB, Big JT who is as physically gifted as anyone at the position with his prototypical size and cannon type arm strength and walkon Hill who has more experience than all other backups combined.

Guarantano, Bailey, Maurer, Hill, Shrout in my opinion will be the best QB group in the SEC come SPRING practice!

Pruitt will have his hands full keeping that group together past spring practice, but if he does then the next 3-4 seasons should be fun.

On another note, we could also have the best OL group, LB group and secondary in the SEC in '20 as well. Pruitt has really turned the roster over going into his 3rd year.

JG will be at CINCY or TULANE - wherever BUTCH JONES lands.
 
I believe he wanted just that. To redshirt him.
But JG was playing REALLY REALLY bad and he was forces to play him.

JG turned the ball over and consistently put the defense in bad positions both games.
Maurer was ready for GaState, which would have gotten him prepared enough for BYU, which he then would have really shined against Chatt and then came into the Florida game more settled....MAYBE. We'll never know.

JG overcomplicates football. He's too into his head. When he trust his progessions and just plays...he's an awesome QB! He tore Mizzou 8th ranked defense apart...AFTER Maurer came in for a play. It's all psychological for him.

Now you have Bailey who is highly touted and talented QB. Maurer had glimpses of brilliance with a lot of gut wrenching plays you see from a freshman. But he can run too.

Maurer will improve. Bailey is going to put a lot of pressure on that position.

I don't know what's going to happen.
I believe Bailey will be the best QB on campus next year. He's physically ready and from everything reported on him he possesses all of the intangibles to play the position. I don't think any other QB on the roster is as well rounded or polished as he and like you say he's going to put a bunch of pressure on everyone in the room. I still don't think he starts but will get at least 4 games in. Pruitt probably did hurt BM a bit by not playing him in just 4 games, I'd hate to think that was done on purpose. Maybe Hill will surprise us all and win the job!! :)
 
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JG will be at CINCY or TULANE - wherever BUTCH JONES lands.
Is that your opinion or a fact? Always remember, gym coach Jones started his live in goddaughter's boyfriend over JG the 1st game of the year a couple of seasons ago so I don't think they are that close.
 
I believe Bailey will be the best QB on campus next year. He's physically ready and from everything reported on him he possesses all of the intangibles to play the position. I don't think any other QB on the roster is as well rounded or polished as he and like you say he's going to put a bunch of pressure on everyone in the room. I still don't think he starts but will get at least 4 games in. Pruitt probably did hurt BM a bit by not playing him in just 4 games, I'd hate to think that was done on purpose. Maybe Hill will surprise us all and win the job!! :)

Hill is an interesting prospect. He was a starter at Maryland and he's a good football player...

Also the Mississippi kid- Holiday is being recruited with a shot to play QB. He's got pretty decent throwing mechanics. Get Chaney and Weinke around him...with his 4.3 speed...

But I ultimately think Maurer or Bailey will be the guy. And I think you'll see Pruitts behavior changed with Maurer next season. For the better.
 
You always have an excuse for Maurer's deficiencies and give him the credit for the success of those around him. As for the comparison I don't play if games, far too many factors involved and i believe that's horse hockey crediting Maurer as the reason those kids went on to get scholarships. That's a huge insult to each of them as THE PLAYER themselves are why they got that scholarship, not Maurer, not you, not me, not a recruiting service or a coach, the kid earned it himself no matter what level they ended up. Maybe they got better through working hard at the game, maybe they put the same amount of time in as BM their senior season, why does it matter when they got the offer. You called me a liar, even had some bunch of goons on here agreeing, howling for me to put up or shut up all while you knew there were 3 college to be WRs on Maurer's high school team, bush league move kiddo. AFWIW, I believe its Bailey as to why his high school is suddenly competing for championships as they might still be a good team without him but are a great high school team with him. I can give many more examples of bad high schools becoming good because of great QB play than I can of great QBs playing on losing high school teams. My high school team had never come close to winning a state title in football until a QB named Bo Wallace led us to a title his Sr year. I also think Florida is an extremely talented high school football state, top 5, Maurer's district ranks at the bottom in the state. I asked this once but how many state Champions have come from that district?
See.... this is where we butt heads. I answered your question with respect and you insult me in your reply because you don’t want to answer the question that you KNOW will bury your logic if answered truthfully. Not a single letter in my response to you was untrue. Including the receivers not getting noticed had Maurer not been as accurate as he is. Maybe you take it as insulting to them but trust me when I tell you EACH of them are thankful Maurer was their qb and EACH would tell you the same thing if asked. In fact they are still best friends to this day. But that’s ok. I know you know the answer to that question. You know as well as I do that HB doesn’t put up over 4000 yards of offense behind that kind of protection and throwing to those receivers. He doesn’t score 40 tds in just 10 games and he doesn’t win on that team either.
 
Hey thanks man 😅.
To be mentioned with @sjt18 and @butchna is pretty cool.
I definitely respect their minds.

As far as Maurer, Pruitt really should have let him play earlier. As in GA State. He mishandled him horribly this year. Kid could never get into a comfort zone. Threw him out against the wolves and his psyche got shook, because had no real game experience yet. GA State, BYU and Chatt were prime opportunities to get acclimated.
Instead he was always forcing things and could never relax and play. JG get opportunities over and over and over, but Maurer was always walking on egg shells, and he made some very rookie mistakes and Pruitt was always looking to pull him.

Jarrett Gaurantano still can't be depended on. You never know what you're going to get with him. Its maddening...
Harrison Bailey if he comes here is going to bring a lot of pressure. Its not the situation I predicted. Kudos to Maurer for being an awesome teammate tho. JG as well.

It could play out a lot of ways.
Will the QB room remain selfless and supportive?
Or will an Alpha emerge?
I also meant to tell you in my response that I was a long time lurker before joining. Sjt18, Butchna and yourself stood out to me before joining because your responses are not only well thought out but knowledgeable. The understanding of the game you guys share made me wonder what level you guys coached at.
 
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I also meant to tell you in my response that I was a long time lurker before joining. Sjt18, Butchna and yourself stood out to me before joining because your responses are not only well thought out but knowledgeable. The understanding of the game you guys share made me wonder what level you guys coached at.

Hey thanks for the compliment man.
I actually worked on a scouting "firm" or team that was based out of Texas for 3 years. We worked directly with one college to help them cast a net over certain recruiting areas. College coaches can't coach and recruit at % 100 percent all the time. I've run combines and went to dozens of juco and high school games. And I've played the game at high school, college, and pro levels.
The other posters you mentioned I agree are both very intelligent guys not just about football, but about communicating information as well.

I no longer scout and influence. I'm in a completely different field now, mostly revolving around tourism and real estate (commercial and residential).

I do wonder what those other two guys do for a living 😅.

I enjoy your posts and information you give as well!
 
Hey thanks for the compliment man.
I actually worked on a scouting "firm" or team that was based out of Texas for 3 years. We worked directly with one college to help them cast a net over certain recruiting areas. College coaches can't coach and recruit at % 100 percent all the time. I've run combines and went to dozens of juco and high school games. And I've played the game at high school, college, and pro levels.
The other posters you mentioned I agree are both very intelligent guys not just about football, but about communicating information as well.

I no longer scout and influence. I'm in a completely different field now, mostly revolving around tourism and real estate (commercial and residential).

I do wonder what those other two guys do for a living 😅.

I enjoy your posts and information you give as well!
Well like I said, people like you are why I joined VN. I can talk to you guys all day because you understand the Xs and Os and how much goes into certain positions and the differences of each one. I wish Butchna and I didn’t clash as much as we do because I really do respect him as well. For some reason though we cant have more than a few exchanges before we’re at each other. If you don’t mind my asking, what position did you play?
 
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Well like I said, people like you are why I joined VN. I can talk to you guys all day because you understand the Xs and Os and how much goes into certain positions and the differences of each one. I wish Butchna and I didn’t clash as much as we do because I really do respect him as well. For some reason though we cant have more than a few exchanges before we’re at each other. If you don’t mind my asking, what position did you play?

Yeah he's similar with me Haha. But he's pretty consistent with everybody in that way actually. I stalk his posts a little, so I know.

In High school I played everything.
College was mostly LB. Same thing professionally.

I also coached high school as a DC in North Carolina for a while. Over 10 years ago.
I stopped the coaching because my passion was turning into a job. Didn't sit well with me at the time.

I then thought scouting was a good happy medium, but it was way uncertain in regards to "compensation". So i just decided to be selfish and be a fan for the rest of my life.
 
Once again, not by spring practice. Any QB transfers will not happen until everyone sees where HB fits into the depth chart. If he's not as good as advertised then nobody will transfer, if he's clearly the #2 and pushing JG for starter then I think BM will transfer. If HB was to be declared the starter in the spring then both JG and BM might transfer. JT will stay regardless I feel, at least until he graduates. I've no idea why Hill is here, he's a walkon so really would not be a loss if he were to transfer out after the spring. Maurer has the most to lose if HB is as good as advertised and will be the most likely transfer candidate should it be so.
You don't think it will take HB awhile to overtake Maurer and Hill?
 
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You'll no doubt disappear from here the day Maurer leaves, most handlers do when they've been figured out. You lost all credibility when you claimed he made throws in high school that all but 2 pro QBs can make!! That's some high praise there, he should have at least gotten a 4th star based on that alone!! You also lost all credibility when you all but claimed to know something you had no business mentioning. And I don't need credibility from a screen name, I've put what I do out there, I'm easy to find. I've got ZERO interest in what you think of my credibility, lol. I'm not perfect and never claimed to be, you on the other hand have some strange fascination with always trying to put someone down. I talk about the Vols and how I feel about certain situations, all you talk about is Maurer and how he's the next coming of Joe Montana and if someone doesn't agree with you then you call them an idiot.
Lol you're really special, you just spent half the thread arguing none of the QBs are leaving and then you get your feelings hurt so now you're saying Maurer is for sure leaving lol.

You know why no one likes you? Its because you simply can't have a conversation, you immediately get defensive and turn it into a debate. Got some insecurities there little man?

You claim this guy is a handler but you're literally taking families money to place kids in D3 colleges when all the time they could do that on their own. The world of recruiting at that level isn't rocket science and I know because Ive coached at that level.

Please continue with your self proclaimed accolades little man. I'm almost willing to bet you coach a JV sport somewhere and you're probably the head of some type of booster club and you do these things to make yourself feel important.
 
It would have been cool if Navy Shuler had been good enough to get an offer from the Vols.

Based on the things I've heard Heath say about DC, I'm a bit surprised Navy isn't signing with Duke.
 
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