To Protect and to Serve II

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Can't you have forgiveness and punishment simultaneously?

I’ll say this, had Mr. Jean been the one to shoot and kill the intruder, who just so happened to be a cop, forgiveness would’ve been in very short supply. 10 years seems like a terribly light sentence to me. Especially considering she will be treated with kid gloves for however long she’s actually in prison. I’m betting no more than 3 years.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

I’ll say this, had Mr. Jean been the one to shoot and kill the intruder, who just so happened to be a cop, forgiveness would’ve been in very short supply. 10 years seems like a terribly light sentence to me. Especially considering she will be treated with kid gloves for however long she’s actually in prison. I’m betting no more than 3 years.

I think murder sentences are served at 100%. But yes if he’d walked in to a cop’s apartment by mistake and shot her he’d be getting the needle.

 

[Cdywolfe]

I think murder sentences are served at 100%. But yes if he’d walked in to a cop’s apartment by mistake and shot her he’d be getting the needle.

The article said she'd be eligible for parole in 5. But I'm with DTH... I'll be shocked if she serves a day over 3 years.

And yes if the roles were reversed I'm thinking the judge wouldn't even consider anything less than 30 with no chance of parole.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The article said she'd be eligible for parole in 5. But I'm with DTH... I'll be shocked if she serves a day over 3 years.

And yes if the roles were reversed I'm thinking the judge wouldn't even consider anything less than 30 with no chance of parole.

That would be an interesting thought experiment. The judge in this particular case is a black woman. I wonder if she be more lenient on the black man or if she would throw the book at him.

 

[RockyTop85]

I’ll say this, had Mr. Jean been the one to shoot and kill the intruder, who just so happened to be a cop, forgiveness would’ve been in very short supply. 10 years seems like a terribly light sentence to me. Especially considering she will be treated with kid gloves for however long she’s actually in prison. I’m betting no more than 3 years.

I think murder sentences are served at 100%. But yes if he’d walked in to a cop’s apartment by mistake and shot her he’d be getting the needle.

May be an unpopular opinion, but I thought the sentence was appropriate for her, based on the scant little I know about the case.

100% agree that it’d be a totally different outcome with roles reversed, but I think that’s because the sentence would be too harsh on him.

It seemed like it was probably manslaughter, I can’t imagine there was any element of premeditation or that she went up there to have a confrontation with him. Maybe I’m ignorant of facts that make that the case but I believe that those of us who haven’t been to jail probably tend to sorely overestimate the appropriate length of a prison sentence.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

May be an unpopular opinion, but I thought the sentence was appropriate for her, based on the scant little I know about the case.

100% agree that it’d be a totally different outcome with roles reversed, but I think that’s because the sentence would be too harsh on him.

It seemed like it was probably manslaughter, I can’t imagine there was any element of premeditation or that she went up there to have a confrontation with him. Maybe I’m ignorant of facts that make that the case but I believe that those of us who haven’t been to jail probably tend to sorely overestimate the appropriate length of a prison sentence.

Its people in jail right now that are doing more time for selling reefer...

 

[RockyTop85]

Its people in jail right now that are doing more time for selling reefer...

I’ve never had a client sent to prison for marijuana unless it was a probation violation. Even then there’s usually something else.

I’m sure other jurisdictions do it, though.

Jail isn’t what we think it is. It doesn’t fix people. It doesn’t make people better. It doesn’t help society. It’s just vengeance and sometimes that vengeance keeps people locked up, who need to be removed from society.

10 years in jail is a long ass time. Even 3 years in jail is a long time.

I just think, unless the person is unrepentantly violent, jail sentences of more than 10 years are a waste of taxpayer money.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ross Ulbricht - Wikipedia

Ulbricht was convicted of money laundering, computer hacking, conspiracy to traffic fraudulent identity documents, and conspiracy to traffic narcotics by means of the Internet in February 2015. He is currently serving a double life sentence plus forty years without the possibility of parole. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit upheld the conviction and sentence in May 2017. The Supreme Court of the United States declined to hear a further appeal in June 2018. The Maryland prosecution dismissed with prejudice a five-year old pending indictment in July 2018.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Make your bed...

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ticket writer...

 

[davethevol]

Botham Jean's former neighbor, witness in Amber Guyger trial, shot to death: Police

Was this a hit carried out because he testified and got a cop put away for murder?

 

[hjeagle1vol]

What were Heels-Up Harris and Low IQ Waters doing with a fake police force ?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Woman Claims Deputy In Boxer Shorts Baptized Her In Soddy Lake After Searching Her Car For Drugs

I’ve heard a few rumors about this and had been asked not to repeat them, but now that it’s public knowledge...

Wtf?

Wow

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Air freshener...

 

[davethevol]

 

[Carl Pickens]

What does it say about our justice system when we are surprised by a verdict like this?

I’m surprised they convicted her of murder instead of manslaughter. Based on the info I’ve read and video I’ve seen, I don’t think it was an intentional act...... careless as hell though

 

[VolStrom]

I’m surprised they convicted her of murder instead of manslaughter. Based on the info I’ve read and video I’ve seen, I don’t think it was an intentional act...... careless as hell though

Stupid is as stupid does. I've walked into many a house sober and not on drugs and never confused one for my own.

 

[GreyWolf1129]

I’m surprised they convicted her of murder instead of manslaughter. Based on the info I’ve read and video I’ve seen, I don’t think it was an intentional act...... careless as hell though

Exactly. Where was the "malice aforethought"?

Haters will focus on the 10 year sentence. Easy to say when you don't have to serve it. She'll be in near-total isolation from Day 1 to Day last. Being a former LEO in prison is a death sentence looking for a place to happen.

Justice isn't blind, ever. At best, it's nearsighted.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Exactly. Where was the "malice aforethought"?

Haters will focus on the 10 year sentence. Easy to say when you don't have to serve it. She'll be in near-total isolation from Day 1 to Day last. Being a former LEO in prison is a death sentence looking for a place to happen.

Justice isn't blind, ever. At best, it's nearsighted.

Air freshener?

 

[Carl Pickens]

Stupid is as stupid does. I've walked into many a house sober and not on drugs and never confused one for my own.

It’s not that cut and dried.... investigators interviewed approximately 290 residents that live in the complex where the shooting occurred and around 90.... practically 1/3 of those interviewed said they too had gone to the wrong floor and stuck their key in the door.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

It’s not that cut and dried.... investigators interviewed approximately 290 residents that live in the complex where the shooting occurred and around 90.... practically 1/3 of those interviewed said they too had gone to the wrong floor and stuck their key in the door.

How many of those people shot and killed the person inside?

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

 

[Carl Pickens]

How many of those people shot and killed the person inside?

That wasn’t the point.... the point is the apartment complex must be laid out in such a fashion that it’s confusing as hell. I’m not condoning her actions

 

[Chris4Vols22]

Fort Worth Officer Kills Woman In Her Bedroom In Response To 'Open Structure Call'

Around 2:25 a.m., officers responded to an "open structure call" made by a neighbor to the police department's nonemergency number. Inside the home, Atatiana Jefferson, 28, and her 8-year-old nephew were playing video games.
Body camera footage released by the police shows the officer outside the home, looking into Jefferson's bedroom window and shouting, "Put your hands up! Show me your hands!" before firing a single bullet that killed Jefferson.
...
According to a police news release, when the officer was searching the perimeter of Jefferson's house, the officer noticed a person inside and standing near the window, which police say was perceived as a threat. That is when the officer drew his weapon, ordered Jefferson's hands up and shot.

I would say "unbelievable," but...

Don't leave your front door open and stand by a window in your home.