Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[nicksjuzunk]

Interesting that we only care about that stuff in hindsight.

Until the bill would have come due... and there is little doubt that sanctions would have come

 

[Kingston Vol]

Until the bill would have come due... and there is little doubt that sanctions would have come

Hell, we’ve basically played this last decade like we were on sanctions. I wish we had the success to go with it.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

It’s funny to me that people think Kiffin would have been successful here. Is it because of all that success he had at USC?

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Kiffin brings in a top 10 class, and 6 of the 21 stay to be juniors, and none of them were impact players or very productive.

Ya'll wanna talk about an "empty class" of big stars and no production, that's #1 imo, far worse than any Butch brought in.

 

[Dooby15]

Hell, we’ve basically played this last decade like we were on sanctions. I wish we had the success to go with it.

Worse. 16 and 17 classes were worse than being on probation.

 

[BigOrangeVols]

At some point we're gonna have to rehire that guy.

Lol.

He's the reason I got into football and especially tennessee football. I was about 12-13 and he made it a whole lot of fun. I would like nothing more than for him to come back here.

 

[utkevdawg1]

He's the reason I got into football and especially tennessee football. I was about 12-13 and he made it a whole lot of fun. I would like nothing more than for him to come back here.

You missed out on some good Fulmer years where we were slobber knocking the SEC East.

 

[VolInDayton]

So how long before he gets another P5 job?

I dont think he we will ever be a P5 head coach again. I think it looks like he is kind of done with football. He has gained weight and based off of social media it appears he enjoys spending time with his son and hanging out with divorcees in Boca Raton.

 

[Kingston Vol]

It’s funny to me that people think Kiffin would have been successful here. Is it because of all that success he had at USC?

28-15 at USC under heavy sanctions inherited from his predecessors - with Jim Harbaugh and Chip Kelly in his conference. He would have been wildly successful here.

 

[VinnieVOL]

It’s funny to me that people think Kiffin would have been successful here. Is it because of all that success he had at USC?

What could've been for him at USC without all those NCAA sanctions?

(Granted, we'd probably be facing sanctions here if we stayed, lol)

 

[Kingston Vol]

Kiffin brings in a top 10 class, and 6 of the 21 stay to be juniors, and none of them were impact players or very productive.

Ya'll wanna talk about an "empty class" of big stars and no production, that's #1 imo, far worse than any Butch brought in.

Can’t fault most of those guys for refusing to stay bought in through Dooley though.

There would have been attrition but if the staff stays that class stays in tact.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Ya'll wanna talk about "orange blinders" you must have them on big time...talking about Kiffin.

Tennessee 2009 Football Commits

Past the first 4 names I kept saying "who?" Brown never even reached 1k rushing yards in his career and was only at UT for that single season, Nu'Keese Richardson a one year dud didn't even have a TD catch. Janzen Jackson appeared to be a NFL guy in the making, but we all know where that ended up.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Kiffin can coach, but he ****** UT harder than anyone during this 10+ years of misery.

 

[MemphisVol3]

Special team-Vols
DBs- Vols
LB-Even
DL-Gators
DC- Gators
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Wr- even
OL- Florida
Qb- Vols
OC- Florida
HC- Florida

Not agreeing with Florida having a better OC unless you're saying Mullen is their DeFacto OC, in which case you could make the same argument that Pruitt is a better DC than Grantham.

 

[BigOrangeVols]

You missed out on some good Fulmer years where we were slobber knocking the SEC East.

Yep. I was too young and it didn't interest me yet. Didn't realize how good we had it. I also remember not realizing how good Eric Berry was and I thought players like him just came around all the time. Lol.

 

[jakez4ut]

It’s funny to me that people think Kiffin would have been successful here. Is it because of all that success he had at USC?

eh, there was a really good vibe about the program that season. nobody walked away from the FL game that year thinking we were terribly far off from maybe knocking them off. coulda/woulda/shoulda beat Bama in Tuscaloosa.....and the USCe/GA games were absolutely awesome.....

i remember thinking very positively about the direction of the program at that point.....

how it ended, well, that takes all the shine off obviously....and USC's situation wound up being really, really bad........

no one can say for sure how a 5+ year tenure would have gone under Kiffin. but it sure felt like it was going in the right direction.

i absolutely loved the brash/cocky nature, and that he went and backed it up with the play on the field. he was the anti fulmer in that regard, and for a program that had been the butt of it's fair share of spurrier jabs over the years, i was totally fine with us being the new "brash, talk about beating you, then going and do it" type team.

anyway...didn't happen, the rest is history.

i've had a little fun with this story today, and while personally, i would have been fine with hiring him back this last go around, i don't see any conceivable way this university ever actually hires him back. and that's probably the right thing to do in the end.

so, moving on......let's go Pruitt!

 

[BigOrangeVols]

Kiffin can coach, but he ****** UT harder than anyone during this 10+ years of misery.

Over Butch, Dooley, and soon to be Pruitt? Debatable.

 

[BearCat204]

nah, he'll be here next year, rightfully so. dont' get it twisted, i'm not calling for pruitt's head.

just a little fun.

10 years later, i just don't hate Kiffin anymore....i should. just don't....administration was more to blame than anyone.

twas a joke

I've never had hate for the guy. If I were in his shoes at a job and my dream job opened up, I would probably take it as well.

 

[OrangeBlood4life]

Over Butch, Dooley, and soon to be Pruitt? Debatable.

Kiffin started this chain reaction. Dooley wouldn't have been hired had lane not left us scrambling .

 

[BearCat204]

It’s funny to me that people think Kiffin would have been successful here. Is it because of all that success he had at USC?

Its funny to me that people don't realize the impact those sanctions had on that program during that time.

 

[BearCat204]

Kiffin started this chain reaction. Dooley wouldn't have been hired had lane not left us scrambling .

No, Dooley wouldn't have been hired if we had an AD or administration with half a clue.

 

[jakez4ut]

Kiffin started this chain reaction. Dooley wouldn't have been hired had lane not left us scrambling .

still, even with that being true....our administration made it extremely easy for him to be poached...and i'm still not sure what, if anything, we did to try and keep him...or if we even had the opportunity?

bad situation from the jump. just didn't know it until it was waaay too late.

 

[Kingston Vol]

No, Dooley wouldn't have been hired if we had an AD or administration with half a clue.

Yep - Willingham and Patterson wanted the job right then. We would’ve been fine but we wanted a good ole boy southerner and went with Dooley.

 

[BruinVol]

Not agreeing with Florida having a better OC unless you're saying Mullen is their DeFacto OC, in which case you could make the same argument that Pruitt is a better DC than Grantham.

Doesn’t Mullen call the plays?

If so Pruitt doesn’t so that is part of my reasoning. Also I could argue than Granthams success at Louisville, Miss state and florida has been every bit as impressive as Pruitt with more talent

 

[BearCat204]

Yep - Willingham and Patterson wanted the job right then. We would’ve been fine but we wanted a good ole boy southerner and went with Dooley.

Patterson was too much of a football coach................................................