To Protect and to Serve II

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Pepe_Silvia said:
Simply owning a certain gun or magazine or attachment does not mean the owner will use it to harm anybody.

You driving fast was a much more substantial threat to innocent bystanders than any of my guns have ever been.
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Let me interject. Driving fast or owning a hundred round drum is ok in my book. But when someone gets injured or killed, that's when it becomes a "crime".
 
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VolStrom said:
I agree but, does anyone need a 100 round magazine or a bump stock or one of a hundred other attachments to guns that allow them to kill dozens of people or animals for that matter?
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The only difference between a 100 round magazine and five 20 round or ten 10 round magazines is practice and a scant few seconds of time.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Buy it cheap and stack it deep folks. I am squirreling away cash for more guns now. Stock up while I can...ammo too. There arent enough LEOs or soldiers dumb enough or traitor to the constitution enough to go door to door trying to confiscate weapons. They are guys just like you and I...my whole family is military. They swear an oath to protect us from ALL enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. None of them would point a weapon at a US citizen abiding in peace on their own property. Will not happen. That said...as these incidents with mass casualties keep happening, it will get harder and harder to get more guns and ammo...I believe that firmly. Stock up folks
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When was the last time that LE was given the okay to piss on people’s rights and their oath stopped them from doing it? I’ve seen nothing in my life time that leads me to believe that if they’re told to violate rights, the majority won’t happily do it.

Now I’m sure there’ll be a handful of rogue officers/departments that’ll do the right thing (and maybe that’ll include the LEOs that posts in here... idk) but the overwhelming majority (like 90%+) will follow orders.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
SC deputy cleared by internal affairs after shooting homeowner through front window
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Well duh, the guy shouldn’t have had a gun.

My mom had a very similar thing happen to her, woke up in the middle of the night to someone banging on the front door. Then she hears someone trying the door knob on the side door. And she can see flashlights in the backyard. She has a .38 in the night stand and was ready to use it. Someone had called the police from our old land line number that was disconnceted years ago, but for whatever reason it was still assigned to our address. My mom called 911 and they eventually figured it out, but again a case of the police not announcing themselves, just playing Miami Vice sneaking up on the bad guy. Could have ended horribly for many people.
 
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VolFaninFla said:
Miami-area police officer who pushed inmate head-first into concrete wall charged with battery

I am so tired of hearing these stories of LEO abusing people and them lying in their reports. What a bunch of gutless cowards.
My sister is a retired NYC transit cop. Perfect personality type for that line of work. She is never wrong.
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What’s crazy is they can’t even remember that they’re being filmed. The cop above who shot the homeowner said the homeowner threw the door open and pointed a gun at him. Obviously from the video the door is closed and probably locked when he shoots the guy through the window.
 
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utvolpj said:
Report: UT assistant police chief went to wrong house, pulled gun on new neighbor

Can't identify his own house, pulls a gun in his neighbor but no charges are filed. Sounds about right
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Yep. Campus police. 32 years as a campus cop. Great for directing traffic after a football or basketball game. Maybe not so much when it comes to life in the real world.

There are deputies here with less than 2 years on the road that I'd rather have with me in a chase, or a fight, or a gunfight. If they draw their gun, they have a good reason to do so...and you have a good reason to pay real close attention to what they tell you to do.

Once again, life in "AcadamiaVille" is not real life, and never will be.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
When was the last time that LE was given the okay to piss on people’s rights and their oath stopped them from doing it? I’ve seen nothing in my life time that leads me to believe that if they’re told to violate rights, the majority won’t happily do it.

Now I’m sure there’ll be a handful of rogue officers/departments that’ll do the right thing (and maybe that’ll include the LEOs that posts in here... idk) but the overwhelming majority (like 90%+) will follow orders.
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90% is about where I would put it.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Yep. Campus police. 32 years as a campus cop. Great for directing traffic after a football or basketball game. Maybe not so much when it comes to life in the real world.

There are deputies here with less than 2 years on the road that I'd rather have with me in a chase, or a fight, or a gunfight. If they draw their gun, they have a good reason to do so...and you have a good reason to pay real close attention to what they tell you to do.

Once again, life in "AcadamiaVille" is not real life, and never will be.
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Then why don't those deputies go arrest him?
 
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BadJerry20 said:
How the **** can you not tell the difference for bird sh*t and cocaine? Somebody should drug test that cop.
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My guess would be that they used an NIK to test the powder. I wasn't there, but something doesn't add up here. "Powder" doesn't usually stick to the hood of a moving car. Bird poop is easily recognized, even by cops. And it's not powder, it's a gluey mess on wherever it lands. I have no idea how a field test of bird poop could come up "cocaine".

You have a good point. How can one not tell the difference? What are the odds that bird poop would fool both the trained eye and an NIK test? Things that make you go "hmmm".

Yes, you're right. Drug test the cop, and then send him to LensCrafters. Something is obviously wrong here.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Yep. Campus police. 32 years as a campus cop. Great for directing traffic after a football or basketball game. Maybe not so much when it comes to life in the real world.

There are deputies here with less than 2 years on the road that I'd rather have with me in a chase, or a fight, or a gunfight. If they draw their gun, they have a good reason to do so...and you have a good reason to pay real close attention to what they tell you to do.

Once again, life in "AcadamiaVille" is not real life, and never will be.
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Do you remember the campus "police" officer pulling out his weapon and firing something like 15 shots in the back of a BMW on circle drive over a disputed parking permit? This was prior to a football game maybe 20 years ago. You can't make this stuff up.
 
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VolStrom said:
Do you remember the campus "police" officer pulling out his weapon and firing something like 15 shots in the back of a BMW on circle drive over a disputed parking permit? This was prior to a football game maybe 20 years ago. You can't make this stuff up.
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No, and let me take this moment to apologize if I seemed to be dismissive of "Campus Cops", and I did.

There are good ones out there, and good departments. But my point was that if all you have ever known is being a campus cop, that experience likely does not prepare you for an "off-campus encounter", especially if the dynamics are, well...dynamic.

A retired or experienced Memphis or Nashville or Knoxville cop who ends up at UM, or Vanderbilt, or UT is...IMO...much less likely to do something stupid. If they came in good standing, then odds are that they have been weighed, measured, and found worthy of the badge they wear. Not always the case, but for the most part it holds true.

We have a couple of former and retired GSP Troopers at my S.O. They are rock solid. Could not ask for, or afford, better deputies. I'd love to have 20 of them.

If I'm a Campus PD Chief, I'm recruiting hard from the active and retired ranks of the local PD's, State Patrol, and DNR. They all bring skills I might need. The 21 year-old who just got his CJ degree from Online University? Go get 5 years on the street, then come see me.

Like I said, I'm wrong a lot, but when it comes to stuff like this, I want the best I can get. For example, Active Shooter? Gimme a Soldier or Marine who's done hundreds of dynamic entires in "BaslamiNameYourStan" over the cool guy who has enough crap on his M4 to make sure it hangs up when he tries to pull it out of his patrol vehicle.

My schooling in these matters came from the Israelis. They don't leave anything to chance. Not one detail. I'm not in their league, but I do remember what they taught me. If the time ever comes, and I can do what I learned from them (which is not likely) then I like my odds. Worst case, I can give you a tough fight.
 
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