Abortions and the bible.

[ClearwaterVol]

There were plenty of people who thought blacks were less human. There were plenty who thought Jews were less human. You have some good company!

You white Christians have a long and distinguished history of human rights violations.

 

[RikidyBones]

You white Christians have a long and distinguished history of human rights violations.

Good point. White people should continue it rather than be better.

Mankind has a long and distinguished history of human rights violations.

 

[0nelilreb]

You white Christians have a long and distinguished history of human rights violations.

Is there a race or world religion that doesn’t ?

 

[rjd970]

Pain?
So if you can kill born humans without pain, you can justify it?
Either what is growing in the womb is a unique, developing human or it isn’t. It’s an incontrovertible fact of science that is a developing human.

“Developing” is a key word there. It’s developing into something, it isn’t that something yet. It’s true, we are constantly developing, if we’re are talking semantics, until we die. I think the point you quoted was stating that at some point in that development the capacity for pain, suffering, joy, consciousness, brain activity, responding to stimuli, pursuit of happiness, etc will start. While in development before that, it is more a part of the woman’s body than it is an individual person and doesn’t have that capacity. As such, society has deemed the woman gets to choose what to do in that case.

Now, I think what is going on in VA and NY is disgusting. So looking at his through the lens of an actual person suffering isn’t unreasonable.

 

[Weezer]

I think it is more of a life each passing day. I do not think there is a magic point at which time it moves from being a non-human to human life. (Maybe when the umbilical cord is cut.)
I have always felt Roe vs. Wade had the perfect balance.
I also understand why someone who felt it was murder would be adamantly against abortion, they should be.
Just as someone who feels every sperm is sacred should be adamantly against masturbation and recreational sex.
I don't want either group forcing me to live by their beliefs.

 

[luthervol]

I posted that. I also asked what NY numbers might look like in a couple of years. I know R v W is first trimester bit I think it should be earlier.....like 8 weeks. There us a beating heart in 5. If you are too stupid to know what you are doing is risky, you are too stupid to be doing it and entirely too stupid to be procreating.

You are advocating for forcing these stupid people to carry to term a pregnancy they do not want.
So they will be stupid parents to a child they did not want. That sounds promising.

 

[Weezer]

Couldn't resist.

 

[luthervol]

I love that skit. My favorite part of the movie. That's where I got the phrase from.

 

[Weezer]

I love that skit. My favorite part of the movie. That's where I got the phrase from.

I love Monty Python. Always good for laughs.

 

[82_VOL_83]

You are advocating for forcing these stupid people to carry to term a pregnancy they do not want.
So they will be stupid parents to a child they did not want. That sounds promising.

I am and have been an advocate for forced sterilization.

 

[luthervol]

I am and have been an advocate for forced sterilization.

That's more palatable when it's reversible.

 

[Purple Tiger]

It ridiculous at all. Slave owners didn’t view slaves as having equal human value. You view the unborn as lacking in human value.

To be honest, I don't care. I am far more worried about humans who are outside the womb.

 

[Purple Tiger]

Is there a race or world religion that doesn’t ?

Maybe Buddhists?

 

[YankeeVol]

mur·der
/ˈmərdər/
noun
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

verb
1.
kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.

Technically since abortion is legal, it is not murder. It is still not the best form of birth control.

What I find interesting is how pro abortion folks say it isn't a life, but if a pregnant woman is murdered, the murderer gets charged with two counts of murder.

Well we need to change that too

 

[Roustabout]

You white Christians have a long and distinguished history of human rights violations.

One of the few world views that corrects itself when off course. I’m glad not to be on the wrong side of killing humans in the womb.

 

[Roustabout]

To be honest, I don't care. I am far more worried about humans who are outside the womb.

Those things aren’t mutually exclusive.
We all started there. It is an inseparable part of YOUR humanity.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I said those things to prove a point. I will call out whomever I want when those same people are calling out people who sin just like them. Being fat is just as much of a sin as getting an abortion. Don't judge lest someone judge you.

You are the internet bully, I am quite a bit bigger than you, little man,

Hahahaha thats funny right there. I dont suffer from "little man syndrome" so you cannot get under my skin with the little man stuff. Thats funny though. Post a pic of yourself then tough guy, with todays paper or something to date it from today. I will, i have drunkenly posted 1 in the past because i admittedly cant handle liquor like i used to. I am comfortable in my skin. I am no brad Pitt or matt damon, but i am OK being me. Thats why i dont make fun of or judge other people by their weight.

Lets get a picture of that masters divinity degree, too there preacher. Would love to know what school gave you that degree. OC, who actually is a Pastor with a degree, asked you what school you graduated from the other day, but i noticed you didnt answer him.My dad got his 1st degree from Carson Newman. Not a masters, but 40 years removed from school he knew a lot more about the Bible than you appear to, and he didnt regularly attend church.

 

[0nelilreb]

Maybe Buddhists?

Ummmm no..
Opinion | Why Are We Surprised When Buddhists Are Violent?

 

[zeppelin128]

Maybe Buddhists?

Buddhists have killed plenty of Hindus. No organized religion's hands are clean.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

One of the few world views that corrects itself when off course. I’m glad not to be on the wrong side of killing humans in the womb.

Societal pressure forces any corrections that have occurred.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Societal pressure forces any corrections that have occurred.

Would you care to comment on how this has worked in facist movements, such as Nazi Germany?

 

[Matt2496]

Societal pressure forces any corrections that have occurred.

You have gone full luth with this post.

 

[zeppelin128]

You have gone full luth with this post.

He isn't exactly wrong. Do you think the Church just woke up one day and changed into the modern version we have now?

 

[zeppelin128]

Would you care to comment on how this has worked in facist movements, such as Nazi Germany?

Poorly. But that doesn't mean that society didn't influence the Church.

 

[Purple Tiger]

Hahahaha thats funny right there. I dont suffer from "little man syndrome" so you cannot get under my skin with the little man stuff. Thats funny though. Post a pic of yourself then tough guy, with todays paper or something to date it from today. I will, i have drunkenly posted 1 in the past because i admittedly cant handle liquor like i used to. I am comfortable in my skin. I am no brad Pitt or matt damon, but i am OK being me. Thats why i dont make fun of or judge other people by their weight.

Lets get a picture of that masters divinity degree, too there preacher. Would love to know what school gave you that degree. OC, who actually is a Pastor with a degree, asked you what school you graduated from the other day, but i noticed you didnt answer him.My dad got his 1st degree from
Carson Newman. Not a masters, but 40 years removed from school he knew a lot more about the Bible than you appear to, and he didnt regularly attend church.

Are you obsessed with me? No, I am not posting a picture of myself for your viewing pleasure. Go away, weirdo.