Abortions and the bible.

#430
#430
Interesting that either nobody has actually addressed the title of this thread or I have just not seen it. Though there doesn't appear to be specific scripture regarding abortion, there are some (these are only a few) that address topics that can include abortion.

Deuteronomy 30:19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live

Deuteronomy 24:16 Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.

But there is redemption for all, even those who justify, have, and perform abortions.
Isaiah 43:25 I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.

He doesn't forgive you for your sake, but for His own. Think that over.
 
#431
#431
Purple Tiger said:
Re-read that post. The author does nothing to infer their gender. You assume that person is a female because they advocated letting women decide about abortion rights.
Click to expand...

Let me help you out a little and you will see why I said what I did and MAYBE pick up on the irony....

IPleadInsanity said:
I don't think men should have any vote in this issue, its a female issue. <- Spoken like a beta or a feminazi.

Then he/she goes on to say........but I still want a say after I didn't want a say.....spoken like a female.

At the same time, I don't think it should be legal for a doctor to snip, crush or whatever they do to abort a fetus, doctors should always save lives. I am pro choice but it should not be so easy on the chooser. Let the mother be more involved in the process and the number of abortions would drop in a meaningful amount, kind of like cutting umbilical cord.

The below is the only point made that sounds like he/she isn't female.

The government should also offer a viable alternative through adoption, there are so many people looking to adopt it would pay for itself.
Click to expand...

So all in all, I was simply pointing out that you can't say it's not my issue but here are my views on what should be done about the issue. I am sure you missed that point though. Your ability to read words and not get hidden meaning is astounding.
 
#436
#436
K-town Vol Fan said:
In the bible, God murdered Bathsheba's newborn baby, killed all the first born sons in Egypt, sent bears to murder children, commanded Joshua to murder the children in Jericho, and all babies were wiped out during the flood. It also talks about dismembering children and cutting them out of the mother's womb.

So please help me understand, why do some crazy Republican Christians think their God doesnt approve aborting a fetus of an unwanted pregnancy?
Click to expand...
I'd say most Christians today ( myself being one of them) don't take the Bible one hundred percent literally. If you don't have a problem with butchering a baby inside it's mother, then I don't really know how to reason with you
 
  • Like
Reactions: marcusluvsvols
#437
#437
lukeneyland said:
I'd say most Christians today ( myself being one of them) don't take the Bible one hundred percent literally. If you don't have a problem with butchering a baby inside it's mother, then I don't really know how to reason with you
Click to expand...
If you equate removing a pea sized embryo from a mother to butchering a baby, I don't really know how to reason with you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ClearwaterVol
#439
#439
utvols88 said:
It is a male issue because a portion of the babies are male, by your logic. It is a male issue just like war is a female issue despite the draft laws. Its is regressive to suggest a person cannot debate, vote or have a say in a law because of their gender. Utterly ridiculous.
Click to expand...

Because some of the babies are male? LOL, first time I heard that logic. What good is your input since you have never been pregnant or had a baby? There is nothing worse than blind opinions by people with no actual experience, yet they are the ones who think they are all knowing. The only people whose input I want to entertain on this subject are those that have been through childbirth or are currently pregnant, which leaves me out as well. I thinks its interesting that the population is evenly split on this issue and when broken out by gender its also evenly split.
 
#441
#441
utvols88 said:
disingenuous
Click to expand...

giphy.gif
 
#444
#444
IPleadInsanity said:
Because some of the babies are male? LOL, first time I heard that logic. What good is your input since you have never been pregnant or had a baby? There is nothing worse than blind opinions by people with no actual experience, yet they are the ones who think they are all knowing. The only people whose input I want to entertain on this subject are those that have been through childbirth or are currently pregnant, which leaves me out as well. I thinks its interesting that the population is evenly split on this issue and when broken out by gender its also evenly split.
Click to expand...
its evenly split because it's not a gender issue. it's a human issue.
 
#446
#446
IPleadInsanity said:
Because some of the babies are male? LOL, first time I heard that logic. What good is your input since you have never been pregnant or had a baby? There is nothing worse than blind opinions by people with no actual experience, yet they are the ones who think they are all knowing. The only people whose input I want to entertain on this subject are those that have been through childbirth or are currently pregnant, which leaves me out as well. I thinks its interesting that the population is evenly split on this issue and when broken out by gender its also evenly split.
Click to expand...
I've given birth to 30 or so kidney stones. Does that count?
 
  • Like
Reactions: IPleadInsanity
#449
#449
The potential argument is an interesting one.

When someone is murdered you are destroying a person AND their potential. When someone is in a permanent vegetative state potential is already gone and there is not a person anymore, but we have no problems (most of us) on destroying the human material. Abortion of an early stage embryo is destroying any potential but I would argue a person is not being destroyed. If we are separating the person out of it and focusing on just the potential then that potential starts before conception and begins when sex begins. There is true potential there. The biological function of sex is to procreate and potential of a human is not there until that begins. It is true biological human development starts at conception, but human potential starts before that. Sex doesn’t guarantee a person and a developing embryo doesn’t either.

At some point we have a person AND potential, one that feels pain, responds to stimuli, and can have emotional responses. I think that happens well before delivery, but not at conception.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ClearwaterVol
New Posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

Advertisement



Back
Top