Solid rebuttal. Izzo will have things figured out come tourney time and Winston can light it up any given night...but I still believe the Big 10 is overrated this year. Purdue and Michigan are decent but that's about it.Langford was the team's 3rd leading scorer at 15 ppg. Call it what you want. 4th leading scorer averages 8.5 ppg, so a pretty big drop off.
I'm not saying it excuses a loss to Illinois, but in a tight game like that, you have to think missing a guy who averages 15 ppg probably made a difference.
In any case, at full strength, I disagree that MSU is overrated, which was the assertion of the OP. Since Langford was ruled out for the season, they are 0-3. They are clearly struggling to adjust.
I agree he may have made a difference in the last 3 games esp against Indiana, but tonight they turned the ball over 24 times. Hard to overcome thatLangford was the team's 3rd leading scorer at 15 ppg. Call it what you want. 4th leading scorer averages 8.5 ppg, so a pretty big drop off.
I'm not saying it excuses a loss to Illinois, but in a tight game like that, you have to think missing a guy who averages 15 ppg probably made a difference.
In any case, at full strength, I disagree that MSU is overrated, which was the assertion of the OP. Since Langford was ruled out for the season, they are 0-3. They are clearly struggling to adjust.
Nolan was legit... that chaotic full press was always exciting. But I really disliked Pelphrey....I'll never forget when he tried to trip Jujuan Smith after a 3. That POS is still an assistant in GainesvilleYeah, I liked Nolan, too and Anderson is his protege'. Loved that Williamson, Thurman National Championship team and before that, the Mayday teams. Todd Day and Lee Mayberry
Yeah, that was bad, and certainly not typical of an Izzo-coached team. I think Winston had 10 of them, alone.I agree he may have made a difference in the last 3 games esp against Indiana, but tonight they turned the ball over 24 times. Hard to overcome that
They’re definitely not overrated. Big10 is tough... Vols play a game like they did tonight and they could lose any number of B1G games.Yeah, that was bad, and certainly not typical of an Izzo-coached team. I think Winston had 10 of them, alone.
I'm simply saying that their recent skid has been a result of an injury to a key player, not them being overrated.
Mizzou is the 11th best team in the SEC ... the 11th best team in the B10 is Illinois. Only 2 teams in the B1G have less than 6 losses compared to 4 in the SEC. The B1G is definitely worse overall.They’re definitely not overrated. Big10 is tough... Vols play a game like they did tonight and they could lose any number of B1G games.
Right now, I think the SEC gets 5 teams in the Tourney. Vols, Kentucky, Auburn, LSU and Miss. St. Bama and Arkansas are the potential bubble teams. Maybe Ole Miss, but all 3 need to make a run to have a chance to get inAt 14-8 and beating LSU on the road Arkansas will start to see some tournament talk.
They lost one of their best players and are 0-2 since. Not so much overrated as they are adjusting to that loss. They aren't as good without him.
True. I knew he had missed more than the 3 games. Didn't realize it had been quite that long, which only further supports the idea that they aren't overrated at full strength. As you said, they have played well at times without him, but have lost some games recently in which he could have been the difference.Langford's been out for more than a month; they just recently announced it as season ending. So, they've had time to adjust to playing without him and were having success until the past few games.
It’s updates like every half hour I think. His rating is efficiency-based not win/loss. If we had been more efficient last night we would have moved ahead of themDoes kenpom update their rankings after every game? I ask because they still have Michigan St (now 18-5) at #4 after losing to Illinois (who is 8-15) and they have us at #5. The records have been updated.