To Protect and to Serve II

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davethevol said:
It might have captured the police in plain clothes Ike some of the neighbors described, in which case the police definitely wouldn’t want evidence of.
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Do incident reports not indicate what they were wearing? I didn't realize this is something that was in question.
 
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I despise most cops and how they interact with people because they get their rocks off on intimidating people and bullying them. Don't pull people over because their license plate is not lit and jerk em around.
 
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n_huffhines said:
How is the person at home gonna know quickly enough? Why are lives worth losing for more evidence?
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Well huff, if I'm doing that I'm going to have something every 5 minutes telling the person at home I'm ok. Simple really. You act like it's Mayberry phone lines in 2019.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Do incident reports not indicate what they were wearing? I didn't realize this is something that was in question.
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At least one of the neighbors said the police were in plain clothes and had nothing that made them look like police, to which the neighbor speculated that's why the couple shot them because they thought it was a robbery.
It's possible the neighbor is mistaken or lying, but at least one has made that claim.
 
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davethevol said:
At least one of the neighbors said the police were in plain clothes and had nothing that made them look like police, to which the neighbor speculated that's why the couple shot them because they thought it was a robbery.
It's possible the neighbor is mistaken or lying, but at least one has made that claim.
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Yeah, I thought this was an established fact, but it sounds like it may be in question?
 
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VolStrom said:
I despise most cops and how they interact with people because they get their rocks off on intimidating people and bullying them. Don't pull people over because their license plate is not lit and jerk em around.
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Painting with some broad strokes there.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Well huff, if I'm doing that I'm going to have something every 5 minutes telling the person at home I'm ok. Simple really. You act like it's Mayberry phone lines in 2019.
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You're going to call every 5 minutes every time you leave the house? Yeah, sure thing.

If that's really a concern, you do real police work, and find out who has been living there for 2 decades, and nab them when they're both out.
 
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n_huffhines said:
You're going to call every 5 minutes every time you leave the house? Yeah, sure thing.

If that's really a concern, you do real police work, and find out who has been living there for 2 decades, and nab them when they're both out.
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Not just calls. Texting, video, and recording. It can be quick and doesn't have to be a call.
 
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It’s not that uncommon for narcotics detectives here to wear plain clothes when they’re working. Lots of carharts and black polos with tactical holsters, stuff like that.
 
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tumscalcium said:
I misunderstood your “Since Vietnam”. I thought you meant after Vietnam.
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OK, let's say I'm only 29. Does Desert Storm count as a real war? How about Afghanistan/Iraq under W. Bush?

Not sure why nation building escapades in your mind dont count as real wars when real people on both sides died.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
OK, let's say I'm only 29. Does Desert Storm count as a real war? How about Afghanistan/Iraq under W. Bush?

Not sure why nation building escapades in your mind dont count as real wars when real people on both sides died.
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If you’re 29 then Vietnam isn’t during that lifetime...

What wars are you talking about? Drugs, poverty? Those “wars”?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
OK, let's say I'm only 29. Does Desert Storm count as a real war? How about Afghanistan/Iraq under W. Bush?

Not sure why nation building escapades in your mind dont count as real wars when real people on both sides died.
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They're all wars, of course.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Yeah, you even had trouble understanding what "since" means.

Are you just trying so hard to be combative that you lose the meaning of basic English terms?
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Well, you screwed up the Vietnam thing and it made absolutely no sense considering my question you were answering so I figured you don’t understand basic, well, anything.

Combative? I’m asking a very simple question that you are refusing to answer.

What actual wars have we had trouble with? It shouldn’t be hard to be specific. Even you might be able to handle it. I’m not keeping my hopes up though.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Well, you screwed up the Vietnam thing and it made absolutely no sense considering my question you were answering so I figured you don’t understand basic, well, anything.

Combative? I’m asking a very simple question that you are refusing to answer.

What actual wars have we had trouble with? It shouldn’t be hard to be specific. Even you might be able to handle it. I’m not keeping my hopes up though.
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I think I have been pretty clear. I clearly stated that in my lifetime, we have have struggles or Pyrrhic victories in every war since Vietnam. If you would like, we can also throw in the war on drugs and the war on poverty, if you would like.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I think I have been pretty clear. I clearly stated that in my lifetime, we have have struggles or Pyrrhic victories in every war since Vietnam. If you would like, we can also throw in the war on drugs and the war on poverty, if you would like.
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We haven’t been in a true war since Vietnam, though that was a conflict. Even that’s debatable since we weren’t in it to win it, just pussyfooted around keeping the North at bay. Then just left.

The closest would have been Iraq in ‘91, but that was just to push back too. We haven’t had any issues invading or destroying countries. The problems arise from being too nice. Rebuilding, training locals, trying to make them like us, etc. Occupying and fighting random locals is meh. I say we let them all kill themselves. As far as getting into any actual war we’d have no problem destroying the enemy. We just haven’t been in one, which kind of goes with what you’re saying.
 
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