To Protect and to Serve II

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Rasputin_Vol said:
So?... 55k men died half a world away over a nonsense "conflict".

And you say "so"...
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”So” was the bombs dropped. But you knew that.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Vietnam was bs. BS because we weren’t there to win. The whole strategy was BS. That’s beside the fact that we shouldn’t have been there to begin with.

We’ve had no issue dispatching the enemy. Our problems have always come from piss poor strategy and being too nice.
 
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I agree with that part, Tums. War is no time to play nice, we also need to mind our own business far more often. If we do choose to send our forces to war, it needs to be total war, with no punches pulled and a clear cut exit strategy before we put boots on the ground. The Israelis do it right. We pussyfoot around, bc we are hamstrung by garbage rules of engagement like ,"do not fire until fired upon" and the like. The enemy knows this and acts accordingly to outmaneuver our forces. Nation building is a liberal pipe dream, no excuse for being in the Stan for 17 years nor Iraq for 20...the locals see us as occupying arseholes...not big brothers trying to help bring a better way of life. We are intruders to them, and so they harbor our enemies. Linebacker1 and linebacker2 are the best proof that we intentionally lost the Viet nam war. Had we continued to carpet bomb the country that way, we could have certainly won the war. Instead, we chose to fight the enemy on their terms, in a jungle they were raised in but we had never fought in before, with guerilla tactics and tunnel systems we had also never encountered. Dumbest **** ever...in a war that only took place so the rich folks behind the military industrail complex and the bankers could get even richer. My stepdad was drafted and fought there. My whole family is military, and all agree we should have never been in that craphole country to begin with.
 
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Dog shot by Mount Carmel police officer Chief said officer forced to make split-second decision


The officer who shot Juniper was upset after the incident, Lockhart said. "That's the last thing we want to do," he added

Officers in this situation don't have the luxury of hindsight and a dog's actions are the only indication of its intentions, Lockhart explained.



I tell ya, postal workers and pizza delivery people must be extraordinary people. I’ve never heard of them killing a dog.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Dog shot by Mount Carmel police officer Chief said officer forced to make split-second decision


The officer who shot Juniper was upset after the incident, Lockhart said. "That's the last thing we want to do," he added

Officers in this situation don't have the luxury of hindsight and a dog's actions are the only indication of its intentions, Lockhart explained.



I tell ya, postal workers and pizza delivery people must be extraordinary people. I’ve never heard of them killing a dog.
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I hope someone files a FOIA request on that body cam. I want to see how his quick thinking thwarted an attack from an 11 year old dog with dysplasia.
 
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Never had much use for anyone who was mean to...or killed...an animal for no reason. Regardless of who they were.

So stay on it, DTH. Let's see how this one plays out.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
I hope someone files a FOIA request on that body cam. I want to see how his quick thinking thwarted an attack from an 11 year old dog with dysplasia.
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I’ve got a dog that old with dysphasia and muscle atrophy (and cataracts), and there are still times he can move and be very protective when he chooses to do so. I’d like to see that cam footage as well. That situation could go either way, and it is possible that dog was Avery real threat. It wasn’t a small dog and the lady admitted it did bark at people.
 
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So I don’t want to highjack the thread but I’m curious what you guys thoughts are on this. I really only bring it up here since, with me being a healthcare professional, the (at least perceived) lack accountability in healthcare has come up several times in this thread.

What do you guys think about the Vanderbilt nurse who’s being criminally charged after a medication error lead to one of her patients death?

There’s obviously plenty of info out there but the abbreviated story is...
Patient went for a full body MRI and was prescribed Versed (a sedative) due to claustrophobia. Nurse went to Pixis (medication vending machine) and the medication hadn’t yet appeared on patient’s med list yet so she used an override to get it. The problem is she grabbed vecuronium (a paralytic) by mistake. Administered the med and put the patient in the scan. Pulled her out 30 minutes later and she had obviously arrested. They called a code and were able to “revive her” but she had suffered irreversible brain damage. Family withdrew care a few days later.

That was late 2017 but this week she was arrested and charged with reckless homicide.

Was the charge justified?

Like I said... Maybe this doesn’t belong here but accountability of HCPs has been brought up several times.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
So I don’t want to highjack the thread but I’m curious what you guys thoughts are on this. I really only bring it up here since, with me being a healthcare professional, the (at least perceived) lack accountability in healthcare has come up several times in this thread.

What do you guys think about the Vanderbilt nurse who’s being criminally charged after a medication error lead to one of her patients death?

There’s obviously plenty of info out there but the abbreviated story is...
Patient went for a full body MRI and was prescribed Versed (a sedative) due to claustrophobia. Nurse went to Pixis (medication vending machine) and the medication hadn’t yet appeared on patient’s med list yet so she used an override to get it. The problem is she grabbed vecuronium (a paralytic) by mistake. Administered the med and put the patient in the scan. Pulled her out 30 minutes later and she had obviously arrested. They called a code and were able to “revive her” but she had suffered irreversible brain damage. Family withdrew care a few days later.

That was late 2017 but this week she was arrested and charged with reckless homicide.

Was the charge justified?

Like I said... Maybe this doesn’t belong here but accountability of HCPs has been brought up several times.
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@NurseGoodVol
NurseGoodVol had a comment about that a while back. Due to the override, she got herself in trouble, was what I took away from that.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
So I don’t want to highjack the thread but I’m curious what you guys thoughts are on this. I really only bring it up here since, with me being a healthcare professional, the (at least perceived) lack accountability in healthcare has come up several times in this thread.

What do you guys think about the Vanderbilt nurse who’s being criminally charged after a medication error lead to one of her patients death?

There’s obviously plenty of info out there but the abbreviated story is...
Patient went for a full body MRI and was prescribed Versed (a sedative) due to claustrophobia. Nurse went to Pixis (medication vending machine) and the medication hadn’t yet appeared on patient’s med list yet so she used an override to get it. The problem is she grabbed vecuronium (a paralytic) by mistake. Administered the med and put the patient in the scan. Pulled her out 30 minutes later and she had obviously arrested. They called a code and were able to “revive her” but she had suffered irreversible brain damage. Family withdrew care a few days later.

That was late 2017 but this week she was arrested and charged with reckless homicide.

Was the charge justified?

Like I said... Maybe this doesn’t belong here but accountability of HCPs has been brought up several times.
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Yes, she should be charged.
 
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NYPD Orders Google To Stop Showing People Where Cops Are

“The NYPD has become aware that the Waze Mobile application ...currently permits the public to report DWI checkpoints throughout New York City and map these locations. Accordingly, we demand that Google LLC, upon receipt of this letter, immediately remove this function from the Waze application.”

“Further, the NYPD requests that Google take every necessary precaution to ensure that GPS data of NYPD DWI checkpoints, or any other substantially similar data, is not uploaded or posted at a future time on the Waze Mobile application, google.com, Google maps, or any other associated internet/websites, or web portals and platforms under Google LLC’s, its partners’ sponsors’ or affiliates’ control.”
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“The NYPD will pursue all legal remedies to prevent the continued posting of this irresponsible and dangerous information,” Prunty added.

The app has infuriated police for years because it allows users to gain an upper hand on the harassment and revenue generating schemes police often engage in. Now with the recent tensions between police and the public hitting new heights, the push against this equalizing technology has been stronger than ever before.
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Grand Vol said:
I have mixed feelings on this one. If it is just about the checkpoints and speed zone enforcement, yeah, I don't think it's a valid complaint.

However...

Such applications also show where police are not. There is a potential criminal side to this.
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It’s Waze. You’re not using it to plot your cat burglaries. You’re checking it for speed traps.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I have mixed feelings on this one. If it is just about the checkpoints and speed zone enforcement, yeah, I don't think it's a valid complaint.

However...

Such applications also show where police are not. There is a potential criminal side to this.
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Meh.... that sounds more like a Devil's advocate argument more than a scenario that would really be of concern. If someone knows that cops are hiding behind the billboard sign looking for speeders on Main St, does that automatically mean that the liquor store on Elm St is a prime target for robbers? I would say most criminals would try to rob the liquor store on Elm St. with the assumption that police are just minutes away, therefore, they will try to be quick and to the point regardless.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Meh.... that sounds more like a Devil's advocate argument more than a scenario that would really be of concern. If someone knows that are hiding behind the billboard sign looking for speeders on Main St, does that automatically mean that the liquor store on Elm St is a prime target for robbers? I would say most criminals would try to rob the liquor store on Elm St. with the assumption that police are just minutes away, therefore, they will try to be quick and to the point regardless.
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Like I said, if their only complaint is about the DUI checkpoints and whatnot, they really don't have a case.
 
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Waze is light years ahead of other apps i have tried. You can tell who uses it..when theres a wreck on i85 and 1000 people are screwed, but you get in a column of 50 that hops off an exit, down a service road , through a neighborhood, around a water tower, down a back alley....then pops out 5 miles north on 85 with only a wrecker and bluelights in the rearview, saving you at least an hour...those other happy bastards are Wazers, too....its not perfect, but miles better than google etc...i heard it was developed by the IDF in israel...not sure if true. I love it though, and use it frequently
 
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I'm fine with it. FYI, when I work speed enforcement it's usually on an overpass with a laser. I'm not hiding, but you'd be amazed at the folks who zip past at 90+ with me sitting up there in plain view.

I also know I have about 30 minutes at that spot before the "pace" drops to 75-ish. Waze. Which is fine with me, since the goal is to get folks to slow down. I just go get a cup of coffee; check my zones; and then go find another spot.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
I'm fine with it. FYI, when I work speed enforcement it's usually on an overpass with a laser. I'm not hiding, but you'd be amazed at the folks who zip past at 90+ with me sitting up there in plain view.

I also know I have about 30 minutes at that spot before the "pace" drops to 75-ish. Waze. Which is fine with me, since the goal is to get folks to slow down. I just go get a cup of coffee; check my zones; and then go find another spot.
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Have you ever encountered someone with a jammer? Does that only work with radar?
 
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Never have. I've talked to a few who said they've seen them, and years back I read up a little on the radar and laser jammers. The consensus is that they generally don't work. For the RADAR jammer, I think it has to be really close to the RADAR antenna, and a good K or Ka band RADAR can lock on at 1/4 to 1/2 mile or more. As for the laser, same thing. The advantage (for me) of the laser is that I can target a specific vehicle in a "string", and we aim the laser at the headlights, as they are good beam reflectors.

Then again, there have been times when a vehicle went past me that I knew was speeding, and the RADAR never gave me a good tone, so who knows?

EDIT: I don't see many RADAR detectors anymore, but I do remember one stop where the guy was fussing about his RADAR detector (Escort). I told him that I was using a Ka (wideband) RADAR, and his Escort (older one) was for K band. Couldn't make him understand why his detector never went off.
 
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