To Protect and to Serve II

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InVOLuntary said:
Because cops are people to. Cops are a microcosm of society in general. There are great, good, meh, bad, very bad people in society. Some cops will inevitably be bad and very bad. Some will be good to great. The vast majority are probably meh. Hopefully the bad to very bad get rooted out and are served with the appropriate punishment they deserve. Also, hopefullythe good ones and great ones get the appropriate praise and rewards they deserve and inspire the meh ones to be good and great.
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What I'm asking is how he behaves like this and gets to be a cop for so long?
 
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n_huffhines said:
What I'm asking is how he behaves like this and gets to be a cop for so long?
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I find it hard to believe that this guy has been a good cop all these years and then just snaps although I've said and done things I later wished I hadn't and really didn't reflect on my true feelings, especially when I was younger. It's hard to say this was a pattern for him without knowing his history.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
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Grand Vol said:
Good.

Georgia sheriff’s office posts ‘no trick-or-treat’ Halloween signs on registered sex offenders’ houses
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Just curious, but what if a liberal sheriff in NY/CA/MASS decided to do the same with the names and addresses of concealed carry owners?
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Grand Vol said:
Let's see, one is disgusting and illegal. The other is a lawful practice.

Want to play this game?
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm sure I can find plenty of liberals out here that would consider gun ownership disgusting and needing to be outlawed.

Look, I'm not saying, necessarily, that what this sheriff did is wrong. I'm just saying that we need to be very careful doing things like this because the sword can cut both ways.
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Not even 2 weeks after I warn Grand about this...
 
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Grand Vol said:
Not even remotely the same.
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Just curious but, other than the degree to which you support the government action involved (which seemed like the initial point being made), what other differences do you see here that makes them not even remotely the same?
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Just curious but, other than the degree to which you support the government action involved (which seemed like the initial point being made), what other differences do you see here that makes them not even remotely the same?
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Let's see...

The original post was made about the Sheriff putting up warning signs for known sexual predators on Halloween.

Ras is attempting to compare that with two cops going to enforce a court ruling that the person voluntarily give up their firearms. Said gun owner met the police with a gun in hand, put it down at the start, got irate, attempting to retrieve said firearm, fired at least one shot, was killed in a line of duty shooting.

As stated in the other thread, the law may suck bigly, but in this case, it seems the man in question had legitimate mental or anger issues and made stupid choices leading to his death.

Now, to what extent do I support the law? I would tend to think if a person shows themselves to be a legitimate threat to themselves or others (which appears to be apparent in this case) and after the protection order is signed (as I'm assuming all are signed by judges) then yes, the police did the right thing in attempting to confiscate the firearm in question.

What Ras was originally suggesting was that if we allowed the warning signs to be put up, why wouldn't we allow it for CCW holders or gun owners. An absurd argument.
 
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Grand Vol said:
What Ras was originally suggesting was that if we allowed the warning signs to be put up, why wouldn't we allow it for CCW holders or gun owners. An absurd argument.
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No, you missed the point entirely... as usual.
First, let me again repeat what I said in the original thread... I didn't necessarily have an issue with the sheriff doing what he did with regards to sexual predators on Halloween. I'm not really a big fan of "scarlet letters" being placed on people that have served their time in prison, but in this particular case, I can stomach an exception to that. What I was trying to make you aware of, however, is that this is a very slippery slope. And it doesn't take much of a leap to go from that incident to something far more sinister that the left wing SJWs would want to do to gun owners.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Shhhh.... I was hoping to see Grand wiggle his way out of the box he so arrogantly wanted to run into.
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So, you're using a one time occurrence from a third party (the press) that obtained the information via another law (Freedom of Information Request) and published that list without the government's approval (not like they can control the press, that 1st Amendment thing) as proof of your "slippery slope?"

Did you wake up this morning and eat your retarded pill or are you just in your old form that likes to argue?
 
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So the other day I took care of 2 LEOs (1 local and 1 federal) and I have to say that both seemed to be exceptional people. In fact, the federal guy was one of the nicest patients I’ve dealt with in some time. I probably spent half my day in their room just shootin the s**t. He was one of those patients that I wonder who got more out of the interaction, him or me.

Not that it’s really relevant but I’ve always said that as critical as I am of LE most of the time that it’s only fair when I take note of the positive experiences.
 
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