Special counsel Mueller charges 12 Russian intelligence officers with hacking Democra

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AirVol said:
Did you read and comprehend the article. The meetings and the timing are a coincidence, no?
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I would love to see the reaction if Obama ended up indicted by Mueller instead of Trump. The left wouldn't know what to do.

Probably an even bigger amount of craziness than election night.
 
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Matt2496 said:
I would love to see the reaction if Obama ended up indicted by Mueller instead of Trump. The left wouldn't know what to do.

Probably an even bigger amount of craziness than election night.
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We already experienced a mini version of this with Comey.
 
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Matt2496 said:
I would love to see the reaction if Obama ended up indicted by Mueller instead of Trump. The left wouldn't know what to do.

Probably an even bigger amount of craziness than election night.
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294 sealed indictments from DC to Hollywood. All hell will break loose when the hammer is dropped on all the Clinton and Obama corruption.
 
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AirVol said:
This whole thing could be the most brilliant sting operation in history to bring down the Clintons and their associates.

Good read on the possibility.

Is Mueller Actually Working For Trump? - Big League Politics
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WHO let the cat out... dang it all... we got a leak in the system.
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Weezer said:
And you'll make any outrageous statement you can to damn Trump. It's not tribalism. It's people disagreeing with your opinions, and you throwing a fit about it. What do you want to hear? Yes, I believe Russia hacked the DNC, but I still want to see proof. I do not believe Trump was complicit, nor do I believe it effected the outcome of the election. I also believe Mueller's investigation is a waste of money, and that the investigation into Russia could easily have been handled by the CIA, but for political reasons, a SC was named.
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I dunno, Weezer, remember none of the three letter intelligence agencies could find any sign of election tampering under Obama, and now we're supposed to believe that Mueller somehow came up with names that would be buried in a GRUpy org chart. Kinda boggles the mind that competence can be lost and found so quickly ... almost too hard to believe ... maybe like the Steele dossier all over again.
 
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AM64 said:
I dunno, Weezer, remember none of the three letter intelligence agencies could find any sign of election tampering under Obama, and now we're supposed to believe that Mueller somehow came up with names that would be buried in a GRUpy org chart. Kinda boggles the mind that competence can be lost and found so quickly ... almost too hard to believe ... maybe like the Steele dossier all over again.
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I just want to know how in the hell Mueller got the names of these supposed hackers that are GRU agents? It's one thing to trace back to country of origin, but to actually be able to name names?
 
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Media's Obsession With 'Collusion' Continues To Destroy Its Credibility

Here’s what we do know: Putin is our adversary, whether it’s 2012 or 2018. Whether it’s the misguidedly friendly policies of Barack Obama or the misguidedly friendly rhetoric of Donald Trump, Putin continues to do what he’s always done, and that’s attempt to destabilize American interests and initiate chaos. No matter how stupid the DNC was about email security, the fact that a foreign player hacked a major party’s emails during a presidential election — or ever — is an unacceptable assault on our sovereignty. It’s about time a president stood up to him.

But we know that not a single vote was altered in 2016. Russia has yet, as far as we know, to invent a mind-control ray. Every American voter’s free will was fully intact in 2016, as it will be in 2020. Acting as if Putin is an omnipotent sorcerer with the power to shift the vote count is nothing more than a transparently partisan attempt to delegitimize an election. Hearing about a politically motivated hack doesn’t nullify an election any more than hearing about a politically motivated “dossier” that’s filled with Russian-sourced rumor-mongering nullifies an election.

None of your conspiracy theories are going to change that.
 
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Trump Is Right: Mueller’s Latest Indictment Suggests It's A Witch Hunt

Specifically, the indictment alleged Russian intel began its efforts to hack the DNC in March 2016, which was “before Super Tuesday II and the Florida/Ohio/Illinois primaries,” and thus before Trump became the presumptive nominee. Additionally, the indictment did not include any allegations that Trump campaign members colluded with the Russians.

Thus, while Mueller has brought more than 80 criminal charges against 20-plus people and three companies, as Andrew McCarthy quipped in response to the media misdirection: “There are 144 million more people in Russia who will never see the inside of an American courtroom. If Mueller indicts all of them, his stats will be *really* impressive . . . and there’ll still be no Trump espionage conspiracy against the election.”

This all goes to prove what Trump has been saying all along—that the special counsel’s investigation collusion between his campaign and Russia is a witch hunt.

The media may believe it is hurting Trump by continuing the Russia collusion charade, but it is not. The Left’s trial by ordeal will not destroy Trump, but it may well hurt our country and achieve Russia’s goal of sowing discord. Friday’s indictment of Russian nationals and Kremlin-linked companies should have united Americans in outrage over Russia’s attempts to influence our election, but instead a sideshow ensued, all to put Trump in his place.

What the press doesn’t realize, however, is that if it continues these efforts, Trump’s place will be the White House for another term.
 
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Weezer said:
I also think it's idiotic that some want Trump to directly challenge Putin. That's not how diplomacy works. We have options. We could condemn Russia, enact sanctions, and bring back the Cold War(which seems to be the choice of the left). Or our intelligence agencies could get off their ass and make sure this doesn't happen again. Or hell, if we have the proof, I'm not sure why we can't present a case to the ICJ(not that it'll do much good, but maybe shut up the left). But some seem to believe Trump needs to call Putin a liar to his face. Why? What would that accomplish?


Honestly, if the DNC had just heeded warnings and secured their servers, none of this BS would have happened.
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Just throwing out hypotheticals here... If... If Obama, Hillary, and several other swamp rats in Congress and such (including Republicans, mind you) were in fact dirty as heck and corrupted themselves with Russia and Iran in deals such as the Uranium One deal... And Russia had the evidence that proved their treasonous corruption... And if a new administration came in--one that is intent on exposing the old guard's corruption--and started making moves to talk to Russia...


Do you think the old, corrupt guard would want the new administration meeting with Russia on good terms? Or do you think they would be pressuring the new administration to stupidly poison the communication well before they ever met?
 
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!

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Evidently, Trump doesn't believe that Putin and Russia bear any responsibility for the adversarial relationship which exists between the two nations, or at least, he still isn't willing to hold Russia accountable for anything. The fact that the United States has taken action to investigate them is completely to blame. Trump always sounds so weak when talking about Putin and Russia. They are to blame for nothing. It's America's fault.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I didn't say he had control over Russian Intel agencies. Russian Intel agencies were damn sure trying to help him win though, (I think this is so they could exercise leverage over him while he was President), you can believe what you wish. However, the Russians had a clear preference for Trump as President and resorted to some extreme measures to help him reach that end.
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BB, How many Russians cast votes in the 2016 election?
 
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