Brent Venables

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Volunteer_Kirby said:
I've heard rumblings that Petersen may be unhappy at Washington and may seek a more "primetime" school - but that may also just be speculation or him vying for a better contract (Butch Jones makes more than him, for reference).
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He and his wife are west coast people. I don’t see any amount of money getting him here although that would be a great hire
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
If he wins, I wouldn't give a damn if he never took part in any of that. Really that's where ALL of us should be as a fanbase.
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EXACTLY

There are some "sure things" out there...........why in heck would Tennessee even target anyone who was not one of them.............at this point.
 
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OrangeSoddyDaisy said:
These are not even on Google yet! I checked!

This is what we did last time. Started lobbying for Knute Rockne, settled with Butch.
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At least we wouldnt be settling for a Dooley and at least we wouldnt have Hamilton in place to screw us over with a ridiculous buyout (ala Butch Jones).

Let the season play out before you come to any conclusions about the coaches. There are lots of quality up-and-comers this year.
 
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VFL21 said:
He and his wife are west coast people. I don’t see any amount of money getting him here although that would be a great hire
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I feel the same way about Kelly. Would be a slam dunk hire of course, but the fit doesn't seem right.
 
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The Vin Man said:
I’ve been a long time visitor of Vol Nation, but not someone who posts. However, I do have access to small bits of information surrounding the program that may be of interest. What I can tell you is Currie is meeting with an outside advisory group next week to go through a list of their names and recommendations. The firm he’s meeting with advises colleges all over the country when a change is needed. They were utilized the last time Tennessee had an opening and advised the AD/BOT to not hire Butch, but they went against their recommendation. Who knows what will happen this time around.

I did see the early list of candidates. Obviously things can change, but their recommendation is to not go with a defensive coordinator like Venables. Their information shows there is a much greater chance that an offensive minded coach will succeed. I brought up Kirby Smart and his early success, and his counter was UGA went 8-5 his first year and they have 10 or 11 defensive starters on this years team that will be playing in the NFL or will graduate. Plus, they lose Chubb and Michel. He said that outside of Saban and Stoops, the success rate for defensive head coaches is far less certain than an offensive minded coach.

He said the names to watch are Jeff Brohm and Chad Morris. He said the first call will and should be to Chip Kelly, but it’s a known fact that Chip is not a huge fan of passionate fanbases where roadshows, alumni & booster clubs meet and greets are the norm. Kelly will be more apt to take a job at UCLA if it’s available than Tennessee. Fuente, Patterson, Peterson are highly likely to leave their schools. He thinks Scott Frost needs more time. There are some mid-major coaches he likes like the coach at Troy, but that is not the splash UT is looking for.
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Wow just wow this shows that Administrators haven't changed one damn bit. Chris Morris ?? Are u kidding me! Jeff Brohm is nothing special. I've heard Kelly, Gruden, and an NFL vet as there too canidates
 
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tnvol16 said:
I would 100% support this hire! I think he would do a fantastic job and would get us to where we ALL want to be...with the talent WE ALREADY HAVE on the roster.

I still prefer a PROVEN, HUGE NAME, BIG TIME coaching hire, but if we don't go that route...Venables would be my next choice!
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Agree with this!
 
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The Vin Man said:
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One thing I'm not tracking - You said Fuente, Petersen, and Patterson are likely to leave due to the state of their programs and for less stress. For one, aren't all three programs doing well, and two, wouldn't Tennessee be more stressful than VaTech, TCU, or Washington? Peterson would be a huge hire imo but I don't think he'll leave the West coast. We may have already burned our bridge with Patterson, and it seems like it'd be a lateral move for Fuente.
 
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BigOrangeLoyalist said:
One thing I'm not tracking - You said Fuente, Petersen, and Patterson are likely to leave due to the state of their programs and for less stress. For one, aren't all three programs doing well, and two, wouldn't Tennessee be more stressful than VaTech, TCU, or Washington? Peterson would be a huge hire imo but I don't think he'll leave the West coast. We may have already burned our bridge with Patterson, and it seems like it'd be a lateral move for Fuente.
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HE had to mean not likely to leave
 
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Sorry. I was told that Fuente, Patterson, and Peterson will not leave their current programs. I hope that information is incorrect.

I’m just sharing with you what I heard and saw. I agree with everyone that we need to pony up and hire a big name coach.
 
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BigOrangeLoyalist said:
One thing I'm not tracking - You said Fuente, Petersen, and Patterson are likely to leave due to the state of their programs and for less stress. For one, aren't all three programs doing well, and two, wouldn't Tennessee be more stressful than VaTech, TCU, or Washington? Peterson would be a huge hire imo but I don't think he'll leave the West coast. We may have already burned our bridge with Patterson, and it seems like it'd be a lateral move for Fuente.
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Like when Florida made a lateral move for Urban Meyer?:rock:
 
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The Vin Man said:
I’ve been a long time visitor of Vol Nation, but not someone who posts. However, I do have access to small bits of information surrounding the program that may be of interest. What I can tell you is Currie is meeting with an outside advisory group next week to go through a list of their names and recommendations. The firm he’s meeting with advises colleges all over the country when a change is needed. They were utilized the last time Tennessee had an opening and advised the AD/BOT to not hire Butch, but they went against their recommendation. Who knows what will happen this time around.

I did see the early list of candidates. Obviously things can change, but their recommendation is to not go with a defensive coordinator like Venables. Their information shows there is a much greater chance that an offensive minded coach will succeed. I brought up Kirby Smart and his early success, and his counter was UGA went 8-5 his first year and they have 10 or 11 defensive starters on this years team that will be playing in the NFL or will graduate. Plus, they lose Chubb and Michel. He said that outside of Saban and Stoops, the success rate for defensive head coaches is far less certain than an offensive minded coach.

He said the names to watch are Jeff Brohm and Chad Morris. He said the first call will and should be to Chip Kelly, but it’s a known fact that Chip is not a huge fan of passionate fanbases where roadshows, alumni & booster clubs meet and greets are the norm. Kelly will be more apt to take a job at UCLA if it’s available than Tennessee. Fuente, Patterson, Peterson are highly likely to leave their schools. He thinks Scott Frost needs more time. There are some mid-major coaches he likes like the coach at Troy, but that is not the splash UT is looking for.
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First of all welcome to VN. Are AD's these days incapable of evaluating coaching candidates without an outside advisory group?
 
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Never thought i'd say this but james franklin would fit well here imho. I like his cocky demeanor and dude is a winner. I hated him at vandy just because i knew we didnt have him....bash away
 
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fossilfiction said:
Thia is all you had to say back to him. The defenses played good enough to get to his teams to 6 NC games. Any critic of any coach that finds his way to 6 NC games has no ground to stand on, other than the lack of HC experience that is.
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Oh is that all he needs to say to put me in my place? How about 2 of the first 4 NC games Venables coached in he wasn't even the primary defensive coordinator? Do you really think he was in charge of a D with two Stoops brothers on staff? The third NC game he got destroyed by USC and the fourth OU had an offense that put up 50 points in 5 consecutive games before running into a Charlie Strong D, He's coached in two consecutive NCs without Stoops and is giving up about 35 a game in those two. Not exactly Bob Stoops or Kirby Smart in their prime.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
Oh is that all he needs to say to put me in my place? How about 2 of the first 4 NC games Venables coached in he wasn't even the primary defensive coordinator? Do you really think he was in charge of a D with two Stoops brothers on staff? The third NC game he got destroyed by USC and the fourth OU had an offense that put up 50 points in 5 consecutive games before running into a Charlie Strong D, He's coached in two consecutive NCs without Stoops and is giving up about 35 a game in those two. Not exactly Bob Stoops or Kirby Smart in their prime.
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Well you took that a little personal. Any coach who has been to 6 NC games has some talent.
 
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Found this interesting...Brent Venables won the Broyles award in 2016 for best assistant coach in college football.
To date 14 of the 20 winners of this award have gone on to become head football coaches.
 
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fossilfiction said:
Well you took that a little personal. Any coach who has been to 6 NC games has some talent.
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He does. But he's also coached on teams that had 2 Heisman winners and three runner ups. And that's not even including Deshawn Watson or DeMarco Murray.
 
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ThreatLevelOrange said:
I am hopeful we can at least interview some qualified coaches. It’s such a shame we settled on Dooley. He was a position coach - never a coordinator - with 1 winning season as head coach. Still does.
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Dooley was the best candidate who wanted the job at the time. So was Butch. Depending on what you believe in the media, Dooley was Hamilton's 5th or 6 choice and Butch was Hart's 4th or 5th.

I hope when we fire Butch, we can at least get our 2nd or 3rd choice this time.
 
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05_never_again said:
Dooley was the best candidate who wanted the job at the time. So was Butch. Depending on what you believe in the media, Dooley was Hamilton's 5th or 6 choice and Butch was Hart's 4th or 5th.

I hope when we fire Butch, we can at least get our 2nd or 3rd choice this time.
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Well Cutcliffe wanted the job when Dooley was hired. So no Dooley wasn't the best candidate.
 
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05_never_again said:
Cutcliffe didn't want the job. They talked to him.
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After Fulmer was fired he didn't. After Kiffin left he agreed to take the job, then Hamilton stuck his nose in the coaching staff to avoid paying buyouts and Cut walked. KNS went to press that night with papers announcing Cut as the new coach and then had to pull them. There are still dozens of them floating around.
 
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