Brent Venables

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If he wanted to be a head coach he'd have had an agent pimpin' his name out there.

Some guys just prefer to be coordinators. Less pressure and they can still pull at 7 figure salary.
 
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Neal Brown, Scrott Frost, Chad Morris are all good names - though a bit early in their career to make the move up. I've heard rumblings that Petersen may be unhappy at Washington and may seek a more "primetime" school - but that may also just be speculation or him vying for a better contract (Butch Jones makes more than him, for reference). If it's true that Patterson is likely to leave, that would be surprise to many. Same with Fuente, he's in a really good situation at VTech. Brohm is the only name I'd be careful with - the buyout is manageable for UT's standards and the fit makes sense. I think he's a great offensive coach but I'm not sure he's worth the gamble. Does he have enough clout to recruit with the big boys? I'm not so sure.


Some names I'd like to see getting considering are Dave Doeren, Dana Holgorsen, & Frank Wilson (still early in his coaching career but a darn good recruiter - he'd be an absolute steal).

Chad Morris is 11-18. Frank Wilson pass as well.
 
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Chad Morris took over one of the worst football teams in the country. Check out his record this year
 
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Chad Morris took over one of the worst football teams in the country. Check out his record this year

When chad completes the turnaround then he will become a candidate for a job like TN. Have to prove you can get over the hump. It's the situation we are in now, our coach got us close but can't get it over the hump and now that everyone knows it's falling apart
 
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I’ve been a long time visitor of Vol Nation, but not someone who posts. However, I do have access to small bits of information surrounding the program that may be of interest. What I can tell you is Currie is meeting with an outside advisory group next week to go through a list of their names and recommendations. The firm he’s meeting with advises colleges all over the country when a change is needed. They were utilized the last time Tennessee had an opening and advised the AD/BOT to not hire Butch, but they went against their recommendation. Who knows what will happen this time around.

I did see the early list of candidates. Obviously things can change, but their recommendation is to not go with a defensive coordinator like Venables. Their information shows there is a much greater chance that an offensive minded coach will succeed. I brought up Kirby Smart and his early success, and his counter was UGA went 8-5 his first year and they have 10 or 11 defensive starters on this years team that will be playing in the NFL or will graduate. Plus, they lose Chubb and Michel. He said that outside of Saban and Stoops, the success rate for defensive head coaches is far less certain than an offensive minded coach.

He said the names to watch are Jeff Brohm and Chad Morris. He said the first call will and should be to Chip Kelly, but it’s a known fact that Chip is not a huge fan of passionate fanbases where roadshows, alumni & booster clubs meet and greets are the norm. Kelly will be more apt to take a job at UCLA if it’s available than Tennessee. Fuente, Patterson, Peterson are highly unlikely to leave their schools. He thinks Scott Frost needs more time. There are some mid-major coaches he likes like the coach at Troy, but that is not the splash UT is looking for.

First, thanks for the info. Sounds like you got good cred. :)

Secondly, it's not surprising we'd go this route. We always start with Gruden and end up hiring some guy from BFE that we gotta google. Ridiculous.

Question for you. Do you have any insight into why the powers that be won't pony up the money and hire the next Saban, Sweeney, et al.?

Everyone knows what the Tennessee fans want and expect. Does the admin just not care about winning championships any more?
 
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Nah....we need a proven head coach. No interest in a coordinator who will need seasoning as a head coach. He might be the next Saban or he might be another Charlie strong. I'd prefer Fuente to Venables.

100% totally agree with this.
 
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Venables is a great coordinator but the list of coaches who dominated in the SEC as first time head coaches is a short one.

In fact, I can’t think of any in the modern era.

Kirby Smart is certainly trending that way it seems.
 
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Chad Morris took over one of the worst football teams in the country. Check out his record this year

Look at Charlie Strong’s record this year. He’s better than Morris by a long shot if we are comparing tbe 2
 
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The list of coaches I saw was a picture of a white board on his smart phone. Some of the names were difficult to read but the ones I saw were primarily the young coaches and successful coordinators. He specifically mentioned
Brohm, Morris, and Mullen as ones he liked. He'll know more after the meeting with the AD.
 
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The list of coaches I saw was a picture of a white board on his smart phone. Some of the names were difficult to read but the ones I saw were primarily the young coaches and successful coordinators. He specifically mentioned
Brohm, Morris, and Mullen as ones he liked. He'll know more after the meeting with the AD.

Does Tennessee really want Purdue's 1sr year coach? really.....8-5, 12-2, 10-3 at WK........and 3-2 so far this year beating MO, Ohio (bobcats), Minn

So 2 good years at WK and somehow Tennessee needs a coach PRUDE just got.

Morris: 4-2 so far this year (beating Stephen F Austin, North Tx, Ark ST, & U Conn).......5-7 last year, 2-10 first year.......(sure he took over a BAD program....but does Tennessee really need this?) Again good coach, but at this point Tennessee should be looking for much better.

Mullen......give us all a break!

If this guy really has some inside info........Tennessee is in deep DO DO.
 
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He said the first call will and should be to Chip Kelly, but it’s a known fact that Chip is not a huge fan of passionate fanbases....

What in the world was he doing at Philly then? Worst fan base in the country, college or pro...
 
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I'm trending toward Frost myself. The three this firm likes just don't excite me and will put the majority of our fans into a serious funk. Not saying they couldn't all be successful here, but our fan base won't have the perception they will be. They think Frost needs more time, but he's going to go somewhere soon and if Currie feels he can be the guy in a couple of years, they need to move on him now!
 
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I'm trending toward Frost myself. The three this firm likes just don't excite me and will put the majority of our fans into a serious funk. Not saying they couldn't all be successful here, but our fan base won't have the perception they will be. They think Frost needs more time, but he's going to go somewhere soon and if Currie feels he can be the guy in a couple of years, they need to move on him now!

I think he’s an eventual homerun quality hire...for Nebraska.
 
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Venables is a great coordinator but the list of coaches who dominated in the SEC as first time head coaches is a short one.

In fact, I can’t think of any in the modern era.

Kirby Smart is looking like a pretty good hire, and though he didn't dominate, Mark Richt was extremely successful and a dominant recruiter.
 
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He's worked or played under 3 very impressive coaches. And his ties to Snyder could make him a candidate depending on Snyders relationship with Currie

Uhhhh... that's a huge negative there.
 
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Dooley was the best candidate who wanted the job at the time. So was Butch. Depending on what you believe in the media, Dooley was Hamilton's 5th or 6 choice and Butch was Hart's 4th or 5th.

I hope when we fire Butch, we can at least get our 2nd or 3rd choice this time.

Do what? Dooley was hired over Sumlin. The jury is out on whether Sumlin is a good coach, but he would've been head and shoulders better than the moron who ruined the schools relationships with high schools across the state.
 
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I'd be a little bit concerned about hiring a guy who's been a DC or co-DC for 18 years. That's a long time to be a coordinator and not get an offer to be the head coach. It could be that he's very good at what he does but lacks the skillset of a head coach (e.g. John Chavis).
 
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Dooley was the best candidate who wanted the job at the time. So was Butch. Depending on what you believe in the media, Dooley was Hamilton's 5th or 6 choice and Butch was Hart's 4th or 5th.

I hope when we fire Butch, we can at least get our 2nd or 3rd choice this time.

I've always heard Sumlin was opening to come here and we know Cutcliffe was going to come but Hammy wouldn't let him bring his assistants.
 
Does Tennessee really want Purdue's 1sr year coach? really.....8-5, 12-2, 10-3 at WK........and 3-2 so far this year beating MO, Ohio (bobcats), Minn

So 2 good years at WK and somehow Tennessee needs a coach PRUDE just got.

Morris: 4-2 so far this year (beating Stephen F Austin, North Tx, Ark ST, & U Conn).......5-7 last year, 2-10 first year.......(sure he took over a BAD program....but does Tennessee really need this?) Again good coach, but at this point Tennessee should be looking for much better.

Mullen......give us all a break!

If this guy really has some inside info........Tennessee is in deep DO DO.

Brohm..Morris..
Talk about a depressing list of candidates.. They trot a guy like that out there then I will be laughing at them when they call me to buy tickets or for a donation
 

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