To Protect and to Serve II

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McDad said:
God designed us with brains above our heart. Just need to use em like that :)
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I have a few friends who completely lose their sh*t around cops. They can't function, they get dry mouth so they can't talk, motor skills are slightly impaired. Usually makes the cop suspicious, that's usually where the I don't consent to any searches line comes in lol

I bet more people are like that they would care to admit.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I have a few friends who completely lose their sh*t around cops. They can't function, they get dry mouth so they can't talk, motor skills are slightly impaired. Usually makes the cop suspicious, that's usually where the I don't consent to any searches comes in lol

I bet more people are like than they would care to admit.
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Your friends would be wise to have something printed to give over stating the extreme stress around cops so the officer can have a reason to interpret the behavior properly. Seriously.
 
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McDad said:
Your friends would be wise to have something printed to give over stating the extreme stress around cops so the officer can have a reason to interpret the behavior properly. Seriously.
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More times than not it's pretty simple. If pulled over, have your right hand on the steering wheel and the left hand holding your "papers" out the slightly rolled up window. Don't answer any questions and if asked to step out of the car, lock your car even if you have nothing to hide (contrary to popular belief, police planting stuff is real) Have your hands in a clearly visible fashion and I've never really had any problems. Well, in the last few years anyway. If cops know that you are aware of your rights, they usually won't go too deep with you. Hell, most cops don't even know the law.
 
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McDad said:
Q for you. You stop me and i inform i have a CC permit and firearm. What do you want me to do? What are your instructions? How do we diffuse any potential escalation of fear so neither of us get shot?
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Last time I checked, the 2nd Amendment was still alive and well. When any officer approaches a vehicle, they should already be under the assumption that the citizen is armed. Why should it all of sudden raise the intensity level once a citizen declares he is armed?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Last time I checked, the 2nd Amendment was still alive and well. When any officer approaches a vehicle, they should already be under the assumption that the citizen is armed. Why should it all of sudden raise the intensity level once a citizen declares he is armed?
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Cops are shot at.... if no one ever shot at them than I am sure the intensity level would not be raised
 
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orangeblood79 said:
I was in a fight last week with a guy who was as cool with me as anyone I've gotten out with. He knew he was about to go to jail and decided the best way to get out of it was to run and fight.

You never know how people are going to react in this job.
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You're always going to have the naive cop haters to deal with
 
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This part is great. Fully agree.

DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
More times than not it's pretty simple. If pulled over, have your right hand on the steering wheel and the left hand holding your "papers" out the slightly rolled up window.
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This part is asinine. Majority are simply doing the job the best they can. If they want you out of your car, you're coming out. They will tow it and guess what, you cannot ride on a towed vehicle. This simply makes everyone's day more difficult.

DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Don't answer any questions and if asked to step out of the car, lock your car even if you have nothing to hide (contrary to popular belief, police planting stuff is real) Have your hands in a clearly visible fashion and I've never really had any problems. Well, in the last few years anyway. If cops know that you are aware of your rights, they usually won't go too deep with you. Hell, most cops don't even know the law.
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McDad said:
This part is great. Fully agree.



This part is asinine. Majority are simply doing the job the best they can. If they want you out of your car, you're coming out. They will tow it and guess what, you cannot ride on a towed vehicle. This simply makes everyone's day more difficult.
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I think you misunderstood. I meant to get out of the vehicle, and lock upon your exit.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I think you misunderstood. I meant to get out of the vehicle, and lock upon your exit.
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I did. I apologize. Thanks for clarifying.

If an officer needed to search, ...a suspect matching your and your cars description was seen leaving a pharmacy theft, under what circumstances would you allow the searchm
 
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Carl Pickens said:
You're always going to have the naive cop haters to deal with
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I know. Face-to-face discussion is much easier about this topic. I'm typically very easy to get along with, especially on subjects with which there is a fundamental difference in opinion.

That's why I generally do not engage in discussion in this thread...much.
 
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Maybe someone can confirm this, but when a cop runs a plate doesn't it come back that the owner has a cc permit?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Would you let police search your property for say, a missing child? You accompany them of course. Not a kidnapping, just a kid that wandered away from the playground or something like that.
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No. Not without a warrant. I would probably inform the officer that if I saw the child, I would be sure to let them know.
 
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McDad said:
If i tell the officer i have CC and firearm, I do NOT reach for it! If officer trigger-finger feels endangered, I let him retrieve and secure the weapon.
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CC 101. You also tell the LEO where the gun is located and you keep your hands on the steering wheel until told to do otherwise. You never reach in the area of the gun unless instructed to do so. Then you move very slowly.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Legal terminology.

How would you put their mind at ease the child wasn't on your property?
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Honestly, it really wouldn't be any concern of mine to put their mind at ease. As I stated in my edit earlier, I would let the cops know if I saw the child at some point.
However, if a neighbor came by looking for their child I would gladly search with them.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Honestly, it really wouldn't be any concern of mine to put their mind at ease. As I stated in my edit earlier, I would let the cops know if I saw the child at some point.
However, on the other hand if a neighbor came by looking for their child I would gladly search with them.
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Just trying to figure out where your lines are.
 
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