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Nice try Sammy, but I have yet to see the USA killing little refugees with vacuums and coat hangers.

It's funny that all the fuzzy lovin' liberals worry about treating everyone with love and etc., but have no problem with killing millions of fetuses.
 
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Everyone I've known who has gone says Jerusalem is much more fun/practical.

Dubai just looks like heaven for the Dan Bilzerian kind of douche.

I think that speaks volume.

I've heard good things about Tel-Aviv and Jerusalem. Hope to get to Israel within the next couple of years.
 
Seal and other special forces ops go on all the time without our knowledge with similar events happening...under many presidents before Trump. I didn't vote for Trump, but this is not exclusive to him.

Nobody said that it was.

I'm pretty sure no other president threatened to kill family members before they did it. I'm pretty sure they all tried to excuse it as "collateral damage".

My point is it's easy to rally terrorists to action around the idea that America meant to do this when the president is saying he will kill family members.
 
What frikin planet are you from. Some days you're dumber than a sack of rocks.

Your only intention was belittlement with that straw man comment. If you deny it, you're trapped in your own lie.

I'm fully aware of how, due to the nature of political thought between 1778 and the Civil War; a US citizen of the original colonies, then the antebellum states, considered themselves, say Tennesseeans, or Virginians .. much more than United States citizens. They saw the federal government as a neccessary framework for the common defense. But, given the ENTIRE BODY of the original Constitution and the Bill of Rights, the founders DID NOT see government as static. They did provide for admendments. And they did foresee the possibility of and include safeguards against tyranical government.

I'm all for reducing our big government, a lot. I'm NOT for throwing it out and letting the nutjobs who clamor for privatization of the bulk of government functions.

I am militantly opposed to those who would try to reform our government Under the abjectly GOOFY BELIEF the (NAP) Non Agression Principle will maintain a healthy land in which to live and bear children.

How about we chill out with the 400 word rants, the insults, the straw men, the false accusations of straw men, etc. and just talk like adults? I'm not even talking about "privatization of the bulk of government functions" so why are you talking about it? I'm not even sure I agree with that statement, yet you are using it as a standard for disqualifying my opinions. Nobody is talking about NAP.

Be an adult, please. :clapping:
 
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Of course not. But I do admit that they are equally human.

Exactly. It's all relative. You only care about those you know.

That's your problem. You're acting like you care, but you don't. If you're in a village of 10 people they all matter. When that village grows to 10,000 each person doesn't matter as much. If you die tomorrow no one will care outside of your family and friends. No one will care if I die tomorrow outside of friends and family.

In the grand scheme of things we all matter the same, which isn't much. There are literally billions of us. None of that means people have a right to come here so I can be forced to pay for their housing, food, etc. I'd like to see these people make their own country, their own land better. No one deserves to come here. This country didn't become great because of these refugees from these countries. Their countries suck ass because they suck ass. And you want them here to bring your country and my country down. Its disgusting. We have enough of our own homeless and hungry kids to take care of first before we start bringing in more. You should start thinking more with your brain and less with your delusional feelings.


Not to mention, European countries want them. They can have them.
 
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Exactly. It's all relative. You only care about those you know.

That's your problem. You're acting like you care, but you don't. If you're in a village of 10 people they all matter. When that village grows to 10,000 each person doesn't matter as much. If you die tomorrow no one will care outside of your family and friends. No one will care if I die tomorrow outside of friends and family.

In the grand scheme of things we all matter the same, which isn't much. There are literally billions of us. None of that means people have a right to come here so I can be forced to pay for their housing, food, etc. I'd like to see these people make their own country, their own land better. No one deserves to come here. This country didn't become great because of these refugees from these countries. Their countries suck ass because they suck ass. And you want them here to bring your country and my country down. Its disgusting. We have enough of our own homeless and hungry kids to take care of first before we start bringing in more. You should start thinking more with your brain and less with your delusional feelings.


Not to mention, European countries want them. They can have them.

Unlike you I feel a compulsion to help those less fortunate than I. I don't do it to the exclusion of taking care of my own, but I do feel a need to help where I can. Apparently, you don't. Just different philosophies.
 
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Unlike you I feel a compulsion to help those less fortunate than I. I don't do it to the exclusion of taking care of my own, but I do feel a need to help where I can. Apparently, you don't. Just different philosophies.

Well said. I need to learn diplomacy.
 
It's part of the globalist agenda of forced multiculturalism, deterioration of morals and perpetual Muslim-Christian warring..

In other words, somebody else is always willing to tell you how to do things, and we have too many weak minded, liberal, "intellectual" lemmings who can't understand the concept of individualism - whether it pertains to oneself, one's home, or one's country. Collectivism of mind and thought.
 
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Why do so many people want to go there then? I don't get the allure of Dubai at all.

A young nuclear engineer I worked with in 2010 and 2011 had family from there. The economy is really soft, They arrest foreign nationals on vacation for silly things like a man touching his girlfriends shoulder as he kisses her cheek in a bar, or kissing in a taxi. A vacation spot for westerners, I think not. It's not nearly as great as made out to be. Only reason to go would be business or architectural interest.

Edit: Just remembered. He went home several times. We wanted him to take pictures to see his view of Dubai, as his family lived right downtown near the Burj Kalifa, the tallest building in the world. He didn't take many because you get in trouble for taking pictures with people in them.
 
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Unlike you I feel a compulsion to help those less fortunate than I. I don't do it to the exclusion of taking care of my own, but I do feel a need to help where I can. Apparently, you don't. Just different philosophies.

I have no issue at all helping people to help themselves. Hell, I've been on several disaster relief/humanitarian missions. I've seen first hand what conditions people live in. We should help people make their own areas better. There's no need to just bring them here.

If Afghanistan, Sudan or Iraq adapted our exact same constitution, amendments and all, what do you think they'd be like in 100 years?? Total **** just like they are now. People make cultures which make areas great. People also make cultures complete ****.

Not all cultures live in harmony with others. You're not living in some liberal college infomercial.
 
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I have no issue at all helping people to help themselves. Hell, I've been on several disaster relief/humanitarian missions. I've seen first hand what conditions people live in. We should help people make their own areas better. There's no need to just bring them here.

If Afghanistan, Sudan or Iraq adapted our exact same constitution, amendments and all what do you think they'd be like in 100 years?? Total **** just like they are now. People make cultures which make areas great. People also make cultures complete ****.

Not all cultures live in harmony with others. You're not living in some liberal college infomercial.
Bs.. Typical "reality facts" from a xenophobe!! Its Caucasian colonialism's fault.
 
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From the CEO of Marriott to their employees. She just made my choice in hotels an easy one.

Dear Associates,
The last time I wrote about the situation in American politics was shortly after the November presidential election. At that time, I shared my thoughts for how President Trump could advance a collaborative agenda for the United States.

On Friday, the President signed an executive order that restricts entry into the U.S. by refugees and foreign nationals from seven predominantly Muslim countries, causing widely felt anxiety and concern.

The United States has always been a beacon for immigrants. We have aspired to be an open society, where anyone can thrive and succeed. Even in times when our leadership has made dubious decisions that threaten these ideals, people from all over the world have understood that the U.S. is on the side of freedom, inclusion and opportunity.

The new executive order threatens the foundation of what our business is all about – bridging cultures and inspiring discovery around the world. Our work is fundamentally about hospitality, welcoming travelers, providing comfort. There are countless benefits to supporting travel, especially between those with different viewpoints and life experiences. The interactions provide a window for new understanding and growth. Travel creates a more safe, connected and unified world.

In fact, just a year ago, I wrote an opinion piece for The Washington Post about the need to make traveling to the United States easier and safer – not harder and broadly restricted.

These are unsettling times to be sure. But what has been at the heart of our business for the past 90 years is even more true today. We are about welcoming everyone – whether as guests or as co-workers or members of our communities.

Our company is a global force because our associates proudly represent every corner of the world. No matter your place of birth, or your citizenship, your faith – or for that matter, anything that makes you the unique individual you are – your contributions are greatly appreciated. This order will not affect your standing at Marriott.

Our legal team will be sure to stay abreast of the order’s evolving legal ramifications and will be able to offer guidance. If you are an associate who has a question or concern about the executive order, contact Labor Legal Counsel Darryl Franklin.

In the meantime, let’s keep doing what we do best. Let’s put people first and extend warm welcomes and hospitality to each other and to our guests. This is what will help guide us through this challenging period.

Sincerely,

Arne Sorensen
 
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