'17' TN ATH Tee Higgins (Clemson commit)

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sonofUT62 said:
CrunchingTheVolz said:
While I'd rather see a kid stick to his commitment, he is a kid. Its something I suppose comes with age. Honor a commitment is something all young people should learn.[/QUOTE

I agree completely. I just think it's wrong for you to roast the staff for it when the kids and their parents are playing the game too.
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The staff are not kids. I've always been curious if our staff wasn't so comfortable with dumping long time commitments to make room, maybe fewer recruits like Hunter would find it easy to walk. I'd imagine its tough to preach commitment if the staff isn't practicing it themselves.
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Probably because he was 16-17 years old when he made it. I made tons of commitments I wasn't willing to honor at that age. Luckily, I didn't have swarms of adult men with emotional ties to those commitments.
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I'm completely willing to accept the premise of kids changing their minds. What I don't like is the people who have to make these decisions for a living being held to a different standard. I don't have any problem with the kids doing what's best for them, As long as the coaching staffs are allowed the same opportunity.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
sonofUT62 said:
The staff are not kids. I've always been curious if our staff wasn't so comfortable with dumping long time commitments to make room, maybe fewer recruits like Hunter would find it easy to walk. I'd imagine its tough to preach commitment if the staff isn't practicing it themselves.
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Guess we have to find a staff that doesn't take care of their programs and see their percentages regarding decommitments? Tricky part? Most of those are crappy programs and if they actually get a kid to bite?...they don't unclench. :dunno:
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
The staff are not kids. I've always been curious if our staff wasn't so comfortable with dumping long time commitments to make room, maybe fewer recruits like Hunter would find it easy to walk. I'd imagine its tough to preach commitment if the staff isn't practicing it themselves.
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What if a commit doesn't make grades? What if he has off-field issues? What if he doesn't progress as anticipated or regresses? What if he doesn't show his "commitment" in his work ethic or training regimen? Do you know what goes on behind the scenes? Didn't think so. . . You hear a disgruntled kid's side of being dropped, while the coaching staff isn't able to comment.

Want to talk about commitment? Look at Brooks. He tore his ACL two times and missed his last two years of football. Why didn't the staff drop him with their commitment issues? If the kids you are talking about deserved a scholarship on NSD, they would have one. Sometimes, moving on is what's best for everybody anyways.
 
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Kristy* said:
What if a commit doesn't make grades? What if he has off-field issues? What if he doesn't progress as anticipated or regresses? What if he doesn't show his "commitment" in his work ethic or training regimen? Do you know what goes on behind the scenes? Didn't think so. . . You hear a disgruntled kid's side of being dropped, while the coaching staff isn't able to comment.

Want to talk about commitment? Look at Brooks. He tore his ACL two times and missed his last two years of football. Why didn't the staff drop him with their commitment issues? If the kids you are talking about deserved a scholarship on NSD, they would have one. Sometimes, moving on is what's best for everybody anyways.
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Not sure how familiar you are with crunchyleb, but moralizing about Butch's handling of commitments is kind of his thing.
 
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Kristy* said:
What if a commit doesn't make grades? What if he has off-field issues? What if he doesn't progress as anticipated or regresses? What if he doesn't show his "commitment" in his work ethic or training regimen? Do you know what goes on behind the scenes? Didn't think so. . . You hear a disgruntled kid's side of being dropped, while the coaching staff isn't able to comment.

Want to talk about commitment? Look at Brooks. He tore his ACL two times and missed his last two years of football. Why didn't the staff drop him with their commitment issues? If the kids you are talking about deserved a scholarship on NSD, they would have one. Sometimes, moving on is what's best for everybody anyways.
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Your logical point of view does not jive with his holier than Butch rhetoric. You make perfectly valid arguments but they will fall on deaf crunchy ears I am afraid.
 
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JohnMcA60 said:
Whether we like it or not Hunter Johnson is a great QB. He might not have fit our system or whatever other thing we want to say but he will be a great player for Clemson (or wherever he goes).
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I think he's Kirk Cousins 2.0. Good college QB. Don't know about great.

I'll take Guarantano over him 10 times outta 10.
 
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chavisut said:
Number one in the country, top 5 player overall.

Yeah, I'd call him a great QB prospect.
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Have you watched him play?

I actually saw him on ESPNU last year and said I didn't think he was that great WHILE HE WAS STILL COMMITTED TO TENNESSEE.

So you can't say I changes my tune once he flipped to Clemson. I was unimpressed with him after finally seeing him play.
 
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Go Fight Win said:
This is the most loaded CBJ recruiting event of all time


We ought to land a couple later... soon
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sonofUT62 said:
I'm completely willing to accept the premise of kids changing their minds. What I don't like is the people who have to make these decisions for a living being held to a different standard. I don't have any problem with the kids doing what's best for them, As long as the coaching staffs are allowed the same opportunity.
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Coaches shouldn't take a kids commit if they are not intending on keeping it or over recruiting them. As much as the kid should honor their commit (and they should), so should the coaches. Should the coaches be held to a higher standard? YES, they should. They are adults. The kid is making a lifetime decision, the coach is just making a business deal that benefits HIM. Coaches should be upfront and tell the kid where he is on the board if they intend on dropping him in favor of someone higher giving the kid a chance to have a backup school. Coaches that pull a scholly at the last minute on a kid that has shut recruiting down and surprises the kid and his family are POS.

That said, someone mentioned grades, well, if they don't have grades, they can't be accepted. Every scholarship comes with stipulations. Grades, behavior, etc. Simple answer, either keep the kid in the loop and be Honest (what a concept) or wait till the big fish announce and then offer if the full scholly is available. Coaches do it every year, they are called back up plans. Plan B
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Have you watched him play?

I actually saw him on ESPNU last year and said I didn't think he was that great WHILE HE WAS STILL COMMITTED TO TENNESSEE.

So you can't say I changes my tune once he flipped to Clemson. I was unimpressed with him after finally seeing him play.
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Me too. I wasn't impressed then either.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
He'll be a decent player. But he didn't pop off the screen like a SUPERSTAR. The other QB that day, Michigan commit Brandon Peters actually looked better.
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Agree.Johnson was on a really bad team.He's team was really over matched that game.He is going to be a good qb.I just have my doubts about him being a elite college qb.
 
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tn4elvis said:
Agree.Johnson was on a really bad team.He's team was really over matched that game.He is going to be a good qb.I just have my doubts about him being a elite college qb.
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I've watched a bunch of Hunter Johnson's highlights. He looked good but his tape didn't wow me like an #1 QB prospect should. I know his high school team ain't the best but I expected a lot more from him. Who knows, he may turn out to be a great QB for Clemson.
 
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tonybologna said:
They also get Upper East Tennessee powerhouse Dobyns-Bennett High School every year as well. Oak Ridge has been a good football team since I can remember back when I was a child.

My brother-in-law went to DB & we drove down to Oak Ridge for years to watch them play DB. They were always good games. Oak Ridge won most of them at home but not always. Anybody remember Shaun Summers kid at RB back in the 90's?

Boy, was he fun to watch. I believe he went to South Carolina for college & played all 4 seasons there & put up some decent stats. I can't remember if he was drafted or not but seems like some sort of injury derailed his pro football career.
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DB powerhouse. Now, that's funny!
 
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