Missouri Players Go On Strike (merged)

[SamRebel35]

😂😂😂. Man I question how I dressed back then too.

I think we all can look back at pictures from back in the day and say "what was I thinking?".

 

[CNCVol88]

If racism isn't systemic how do explain the study I described?

for one, systematic and systemic are not the same thing. Secondly, I've heard of this study. It was done in one city if I remember correctly and didn't exactly have a representative sample size. At worst it showed there might be systematic oppression in that city. At best, it showed some people who were racist.

 

[BeecherVol]

😂😂😂. Man I question how I dressed back then too.

Some can pull it off.:thumbsup:


I did some land surveying work for you a few years back in Clarksville (over by APSU IIRC) you must have replaced them since then.

 

[volfanbill]

Oh so now they're students?

They've always been students

 

[fort_vol]

If for whatever reason this isn't resolved by the end of the week Mizzou would have to pay BYU $1M. To these players' credit, nothing gets people listening faster than messing with their SEC football money. Expect the donors and football boosters to have Wolfe pushed out of office either today or tomorrow.

If Mizzou doesn't field a team the rest of the season, Tennessee would be awarded a 1-0 win.

 

[VolsNSkinsFan]

You need to get some of that hate out of your heart. You are blaming Obama for this strike at Missouri, unbelievable.

My Bible teaches Christ is about love not hate. I am sure your Catholic Bible teaches the same thing. Your Pope definitely teaches love.

How can one be a devout Catholic as you portray yourself to be and live with that much hate in their heart for anyone with a D beside their name?

Did I mention hate anywhere? I said this adds to 0s legacy of SJW insanity, which if you haven't noticed, has gotten out of control. A for effort on the Catholic hate you have tho

 

[butchna]

It's embarrassing and disgraceful that so many are putting football above social issues. Everyone likes to pretend I'm the angry VN member simply because I disagree with people, but I sincerely hope you aren't so clueless as to fire Pinkel or throw scholarships away because students are standing up for what they perceive as right.

You can. " stand " and still do your job...usually happens when you HAVE to.

 

[butchna]

If for whatever reason this isn't resolved by the end of the week Mizzou would have to pay BYU $1M. To these players' credit, nothing gets people listening faster than messing with their SEC football money. Expect the donors and football boosters to have Wolfe pushed out of office either today or tomorrow.

If Mizzou doesn't field a team the rest of the season, Tennessee would be awarded a 1-0 win.

BYU's already released a statement saying they won't demand the million.

 

[SamRebel35]

They've always been students

Student athletes. They are both and have duties in both realms in order to continue to receive the benefit of a free education.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

for one, systematic and systemic are not the same thing. Secondly, I've heard of this study. It was done in one city if I remember correctly and didn't exactly have a representative sample size. At worst it showed there might be systematic oppression in that city. At best, it showed some people who were racist.

What is "systematic racism?" I assumed you meant systemic as I have never heard of systematic racism.

 

[volfanbill]

You can. " stand " and still do your job...usually happens when you HAVE to.

You can. You don't have to. Pinkel's #1 priority is the betterment of the student athletes under him. He's knocking his job out of the park.

 

[volfanbill]

Student athletes. They are both and have duties in both realms in order to continue to receive the benefit of a free education.

See my post under this one. You're putting football first. Shame on you.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I know little about what's going on at Mizzou. But I do know this: the rapidity with which the issue has grown, spread not only through the student population but to the faculty and staff as well, and to the football coaching staff and the AD's office ... social protest doesn't spread that fast unless there's something, some issue or behavior that is concrete and understandable to the folks who started out neutral on the issue.

Pinkel could be opportunistic ... the AD could ... some players could ... some students could ... some faculty members could ... but for ALL these groups of people to come together....well, there's likely something real there, something we're just not close enough to see.

Following that train of thought, I certainly won't condemn Mizzou's students and players for standing up for a principle that they believe in, in a non-violent way.

Having said that, I'm just here for the football. Hoping we have a game to play in two weeks!

Hope for the day we are all color blind: black, white, yellow, and purple.

Man, ain't that the truth. Let's just all be orange.

Go Vols!

 

[n_huffhines]

I agree. I think several of the wars we've declared have been counterproductive and a gross negative to minorities and poor people in general.

The War on Drugs...
The War on Poverty...

I seriously think that if we instead declared a War on Uneducation, a lot of problems would start to clear up. And with the current socialist state of our Universities, I think a War on Bad Education would probably help too.

I am mostly in agreement with you except that it seems like if history is any example, a war on bad education would make things worse.

 

[fort_vol]

BYU's already released a statement saying they won't demand the million.

Mind sharing a link? Not seeing this anywhere on Twitter or Google news.

 

[TOP]

What about all the war white people support?

On their own people? Black people want their own culture. What don't you get about that? The girl from Hunger games was b*tching about Kylie Jenner and other white people stealing cornrows from black people. Like seriously, who gives a s***t. I don't and if that's one issue black people have with white people, you're already headed down one privileged path and also, that's racist. Seems pretty privileged that black people have it so easy these days they're crying about white people who have hair like them or dress like them. For Us By Us... right? The Michigan players called Duke players uncle toms. The rapist Bill Cosby had it right. To make white people the problem, first black people have to fix their own culture. I think he referred to it as dirty laundry. Kids who can't speak properly and wearing their pants around their knees. Acting like little dicks who have no future. For the record, I've seen probably a hundred videos of the knockout game, every single one was black on white. Black people can't be racist though, or so I'm told.

Anyways, every time black people have been allowed their own culture and city like Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago etc. look what happened. They ban guns in Chicago and there are more shootings than ever and it's mostly black people doing it. Same with rioting, looting and destroying the city. This is absolutely a culture problem and whites going to wars with other countries isn't the same as black people killing their fellow Americans and while wanting more, more, more. I to this day don't know what white men have that that black people don't other than being accused of being racist for not taking their side. And for that, I no longer care about anything feminists, black lives matter, bglt, muslims etc. have to say on any subject. I have this to say to all those racist and sexist group.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqlplW3iYB0[/youtube]

Call me racist and misogynist, I don't care anymore how I come off because none of these groups do. If they did, they wouldn't burn down Ferguson and Baltimore. Then you've got feminists with no life complaining about GTA 5 and black people wanting some president fired over nothing he did. It's too much, white men need to stand up and tell them all to figure it the f*** out and stop blaming us. I didn't do crap to anyone and acting like I'm part of the problem has done nothing but make me resent all of these cry babies. I literally used to sit in the middle politically but leaned democrat. All I can say now is, I hope that party is destroyed if they're going to keep pumping out people who cry their way to the top. I bet one of the highest paying jobs these days is starting gofund me pages while begging for money on the internet. The new America. Why do stuff when you can ask others for it and the government is going to give it to you anyways? I never once felt right getting help from the government but if they're gonna help anyone, why not take the extra help. The pot will run out anyways, might as well dip your hand in there and get ya some.

And here's the Cosby article. No wonder he got away with rape for so long. He's actually fairly intelligent. Beats going on a hunger strike. Is that person dead yet? *shrug*

Cosby rips blacks for abuse, poor parenting - US news - Life - Race & ethnicity | NBC News

 

[butchna]

You can. You don't have to. Pinkel's #1 priority is the betterment of the student athletes under him. He's knocking his job out of the park.

"Betterment of the student athletes" is what landed him a multimillion contract? If so, Gerry Faust would have died as an active Notre Dame coach. He can show support AND do his job ...he's choosing to grandstand. Should be fired for his choice.

 

[n_huffhines]

The war on Poverty?

war on terror
war on drugs
war on poverty
containment (cold war)

Yes, there is a lot of minority violence in the inner city. The question of "what race is most violent?" is really broad. For example, if you define it by murder rate, like someone here did, then you are judging an entire race based on a small group of people that commit this sort of crime, and are hardly representative of the population as a whole.

I know not all whites support the wars we wage domestically and abroad, but they are at least mostly complacent about it. If you asked a foreigner about "violent Americans" I think they are just as likely to cite our foreign policy and war on drugs as they are to cite our issues with inner city violence.

I'm not trying to say that one race is more violent than the other, but I am saying some here are too narrowly defining that conversation.

 

[CNCVol88]

What is "systematic racism?" I assumed you meant systemic as I have never heard of systematic racism.

I've heard it used interchangably with institutional racism so we are probably talking about the same thing but completely disagree of what is and isn't an exampble of institutional racism.

 

[Volview]

Great opportunity for walk-ons at mizzou

This is what will happen if the striking players don't come back. Mizzou will field a team of walk-ons. There is too much money involved when a game isn't played at home. Also, Mizzou has an obligation to the SEC to play this game.

 

[volfanbill]

"Betterment of the student athletes" is what landed him a multimillion contract? If so, Gerry Faust would have died as an active Notre Dame coach. He can show support AND do his job ...he's choosing to grandstand. Should be fired for his choice.

You continue to be clueless. I fear for anyone that has ever had to look to you for guidance.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

On their own people? Black people want their own culture. What don't you get about that? The girl from Hunger games was b*tching about Kylie Jenner and other white people stealing cornrows from black people. Like seriously, who gives a s***t. I don't and if that's one issue black people have with white people, you're already headed down one privileged path and also, that's racist. Seems pretty privileged that black people have it so easy these days they're crying about white people who have hair like them or dress like them. For Us By Us... right? The Michigan players called Duke players uncle toms. The rapist Bill Cosby had it right. To make white people the problem, first black people have to fix their own culture. I think he referred to it as dirty laundry. Kids who can't speak properly and wearing their pants around their knees. Acting like little dicks who have no future. For the record, I've seen probably a hundred videos of the knockout game, every single one was black on white. Black people can't be racist though, or so I'm told.

Anyways, every time black people have been allowed their own culture and city like Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago etc. look what happened. They ban guns in Chicago and there are more shootings than ever and it's mostly black people doing it. Same with rioting, looting and destroying the city. This is absolutely a culture problem and whites going to wars with other countries isn't the same as black people killing their fellow Americans and while wanting more, more, more. I to this day don't know what white men have that that black people don't other than being accused of being racist for not taking their side. And for that, I no longer care about anything feminists, black lives matter, bglt, muslims etc. have to say on any subject. I have this to say to all those racist and sexist group.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqlplW3iYB0[/youtube]

Call me racist and misogynist, I don't care anymore how I come off because none of these groups do. If they did, they wouldn't burn down Ferguson and Baltimore. Then you've got feminists with no life complaining about GTA 5 and black people wanting some president fired over nothing he did. It's too much, white men need to stand up and tell them all to figure it the f*** out and stop blaming us. I didn't do crap to anyone and acting like I'm part of the problem has done nothing but make me resent all of these cry babies. I literally used to sit in the middle politically but leaned democrat. All I can say now is, I hope that party is destroyed if they're going to keep pumping out people who cry their way to the top. I bet one of the highest paying jobs these days is starting gofund me pages while begging for money on the internet. The new America. Why do stuff when you can ask others for it and the government is going to give it to you anyways? I never once felt right getting help from the government but if they're gonna help anyone, why not take the extra help. The pot will run out anyways, might as well dip your hand in there and get ya some.

And here's the Cosby article. No wonder he got away with rape for so long. He's actually fairly intelligent. Beats going on a hunger strike. Is that person dead yet? *shrug*

Cosby rips blacks for abuse, poor parenting - US news - Life - Race & ethnicity | NBC News

So are blacks and latinos just lazy or is there a problem?

I would be pretty pissed off, too. In general, blacks are twice as likely to unemployed as whites. I know, I have already read the hide their check under their work boots line ITT. Blacks are just an entitled bunch looking for a handout.

However, black college graduates are also twice as likely to be unemployed as white college graduates. Is the handout mentality just ingrained in the black DNA? I mean after they struggle to get out of the ghetto by excelling in crappy schools and graduate college they decide that government cheese is indeed the way to go?

 

[Boca Vol]

You can. " stand " and still do your job...usually happens when you HAVE to.

Agree!

BYU's already released a statement saying they won't demand the million.

I don't know what to think about this. Is BYU jumping on the cause? If I were them, I would let the language of the contract do the talking. But, $1MM in the grand scheme of things is a drop in the bucket for an athletic dept.

They would probably wind up spending $10MM in PR damage control.

 

[Aerie Vol]

But I do know this: the rapidity with which the issue has grown, spread not only through the student population but to the faculty and staff as well, and to the football coaching staff and the AD's office ... social protest doesn't spread that fast unless there's something, some issue or behavior that is concrete and understandable to the folks who started out neutral on the issue.

Um... Hands up, don't shoot?

False accusations can spread as quickly as valid ones.

AV

 

[samanderson]

Well I honestly don't know the whole story of what is going on there. Maybe I would think different if I did. I'm just saying him losing his life due to ignorance hurts much harder for his family and friends.

On this point, I do agree with you. "Ignorance" is the operative word here. Bigotry is ignorance at its worst. The loss suffered by our country and the Rev. Martin Luther King's family is a painful and historical testament to this fact.

I sincerely hope life is treating you grandly these days. Count me as a Fan For Life (FFL).