Missouri Players Go On Strike (merged)

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sanddune50 said:
Again, what's :crazy: is you think you have a point because you simply made a comment. Where is the back up to this? What is the context of any comments made? Which group out these congressmen? And while you k-town queen are all worried about 'white terrorist' there is a group of people that has a cult that they pass of as a religion in which they want to install Sharia Law and control the world. It amazes me how many simpletons we have populating the earth these days.
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People go take a cold shower! :whistling:
 
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Jimmy Football said:
I can see this, and I can see why this would upset some Mizzou students. But from the outside looking in, if this is what has precipitated the response, the outcry seems somewhat disproportionate to the offense. Especially considering that Wolfe's condemnations probably wouldn't have solved very much in regards the root issue.

If I had to guess, I would say this is the reason they aren't receiving more sympathy on this board.
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Knowing what I know about the politics forum, I don't think any circumstances would result in them getting much sympathy around here.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Malcom X is more extreme on the other side than Nathan Bedford Forrest and other prominent KKK guys were. We don't spend anytime on those guys either. Maybe it's the American way to try and wipe out any semblance of history that's not unicorns running across rainbow dotted meadows.

Im not going to debate the merit's of police. There's plenty of ****ty ones and plenty of good ones. Plenty of racist ones and plenty of non-racist ones. It's a microcosm of the real world we live in.
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What the ****ing ****
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Malcom X is more extreme on the other side than Nathan Bedford Forrest and other prominent KKK guys were. We don't spend anytime on those guys either. Maybe it's the American way to try and wipe out any semblance of history that's not unicorns running across rainbow dotted meadows.
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As they always say, though. History is written by the winners. And white people have been the winners for centuries
 
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Jimmy Football said:
I can see this, and I can see why this would upset some Mizzou students. But from the outside looking in, if this is what has precipitated the response, the outcry seems somewhat disproportionate to the offense. Especially considering that Wolfe's condemnations probably wouldn't have solved very much in regards the root issue.

If I had to guess, I would say this is the reason they aren't receiving more sympathy on this board.
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They aren't receiving sympathy because, and I'm just guessing here, 90% of VolNation falls under the white male Republican demographic.
 
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sanddune50 said:
Yep. Another failure by the loony liberals. It was the democratic party that wanted to continue slavery even after the Civil War. This is what gave rise to the KKK. But why believe the truth when you can blindly follow a lie?
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In*American politics, theSouthern strategy*refers to aRepublican Party*strategy of gaining political support for certain candidates in theSouthern United States*by appealing to*racism against African Americans.[1][2][3]

The mid-1960s saw the*African-American Civil Rights Movement, a push for*desegregation, and thebipartisan*passage of the*Civil Rights Act of 1964*and*Voting Rights Act of 1965, after which more than 90 percent of black voters registered with the Democratic Party following their decades-longdisenfranchisement*by southern states. During this period of social upheaval, Republican Presidential candidate*Richard Nixon*worked to attract southern white conservative voters to his candidacy and the Republican Party,*[4]*and Senator*Barry Goldwater*won the five formerly Confederate states of the*Deep South*(Alabama,*Georgia,Louisiana,*Mississippi, and*South Carolina) in the 1964 presidential election. In the*1968 presidential campaign, Nixon won Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, and Tennessee, all former Confederate states, contributing to the*electoral realignment*of white voters in some Southern states to the Republican Party.



History.
Get some.
 
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sanddune50 said:
So if believeing in something infringes upon someone else's freedom it's ok? You really think the university president should lose his right to work and earn his salary?
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I'm failing to see how asking him to resign "infringes on his freedom" or how that would be equivalent to "losing his right to work and earn a salary". Being a University president isn't a right last time I checked. Also, I'm not making a judgement either way on who is right or who is wrong, just saying these kids have the right to do this. Free speech and all that.
 
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crusse10 said:
I don't think they want the president to stop people from using racial slurs. They seem to want the president to stand up for racial equality and say that this is not what the University is about. They want Mizzou to set the example for its own students who are acting racist. They want to be respected, not thrown under the rug.
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They seem to want a lot more than that considering they're calling for his termination and for him to admit his white male privilege. I have no problem with their protests. Despite everyone's desire to believe otherwise, prejudice and oppression still exist, and if someone wants to bring awareness to the issue that is perfectly acceptable. However, their approach with the list of demands is an absolutely terrible way to address these problems. What will having the president admit his white male privilege do? What will removing the statue of Thomas Jefferson do? It just seems like strongarming to me.

It's going to be interesting to watch this situation develop. My brother goes to Rhodes here in Memphis which had a very similar situation last year with protests and demands. A year later and I honestly don't think anything has changed.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Seriously? Whatever is going in these football players lives, I hope it resolved quickly. If what ESPN said is true Missouris president probably shouldn't be in the position he is.
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Go to SBNation and read the story. The president didn't do anything wrong except to refuse to acknowledge thugs at the homecoming parade. There's a time and place for everything and procedure!!
 
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Ez_Vol said:
That's exactly what should happen. I'm pretty sure you feel that way about our multi-cultural athletes as well.

You, sir, are part of the problem.
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Actually, these athletes are privileged and have a voice that many of the non-athlete students do not have. Considering how many other students have to struggle to get an education I would love to see these idiots walk. It would show their self endowed superiority.

We are asked to forgive them when they have failings and run ins with the law. Other students never get the same leniency.
 
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flatiron said:
I'm failing to see how asking him to resign "infringes on his freedom" or how that would be equivalent to "losing his right to work and earn a salary". Being a University president isn't a right last time I checked. Also, I'm not making a judgement either way on who is right or who is wrong, just saying these kids have the right to do this. Free speech and all that.
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I would have to agree with that last statement, however, I would also have to agree with yanking some scholly's since these kids agreed to get a free college education in return for playing football for the very college they will be getting a free education from. You know, sticking to your end of the bargain and all that.
 
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UTCVol said:
They seem to want a lot more than that considering they're calling for his termination and for him to admit his white male privilege. I have no problem with their protests. Despite everyone's desire to believe otherwise, prejudice and oppression still exist, and if someone wants to bring awareness to the issue that is perfectly acceptable. However, their approach with the list of demands is an absolutely terrible way to address these problems. What will having the president admit his white male privilege do? What will removing the statue of Thomas Jefferson do? It just seems like strongarming to me.

It's going to be interesting to watch this situation develop. My brother goes to Rhodes here in Memphis which had a very similar situation last year with protests and demands. A year later and I honestly don't think anything has changed.
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From what I saw, the players are just banded together to have him resign. A different group seems to be the one going for all the other stuff
 
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FEARinSEC said:
I would have to agree with that last statement, however, I would also have to agree with yanking some scholly's since these kids agreed to get a free college education in return for playing football for the very college they will be getting a free education from. You know, sticking to your end of the bargain and all that.
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That very well could happen, but from what I've read they have the support of the coaches, so I doubt any scholarships are being pulled, at least now anyway.
 
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crusse10 said:
They aren't receiving sympathy because, and I'm just guessing here, 90% of VolNation falls under the white male Republican demographic.
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They're getting no sympathy from me, someone who identifies as libertarian, because I don't see their complaints as legitimate. Someone yelling the N word, even if. A public place is not signs of an overtly racist campus. We don't even know that this actually happened or that it wasn't the result of a dare or something stupid IF it did happen. Their desire to rid the school of Thomas Jefferson statues is absolutely asinine and making a big deal of **** swastika that was most likely meant to provoke a response in amongst all this is the definition of petty.
 
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UTCVol said:
They seem to want a lot more than that considering they're calling for his termination and for him to admit his white male privilege. I have no problem with their protests. Despite everyone's desire to believe otherwise, prejudice and oppression still exist, and if someone wants to bring awareness to the issue that is perfectly acceptable. However, their approach with the list of demands is an absolutely terrible way to address these problems. What will having the president admit his white male privilege do? What will removing the statue of Thomas Jefferson do? It just seems like strongarming to me.

It's going to be interesting to watch this situation develop. My brother goes to Rhodes here in Memphis which had a very similar situation last year with protests and demands. A year later and I honestly don't think anything has changed.
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Very well stated. To some extent, this is the same point I was trying to make. The proposed solutions don't seem bear much relation to the actual incidents that occurred.

The president could have came out and preached for an hour about how much he and the University abhorred the actons of the perpetrators, but I don't think it would have done one ounce to prevent future incidents.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
In*American politics, theSouthern strategy*refers to aRepublican Party*strategy of gaining political support for certain candidates in theSouthern United States*by appealing to*racism against African Americans.[1][2][3]

The mid-1960s saw the*African-American Civil Rights Movement, a push for*desegregation, and thebipartisan*passage of the*Civil Rights Act of 1964*and*Voting Rights Act of 1965, after which more than 90 percent of black voters registered with the Democratic Party following their decades-longdisenfranchisement*by southern states. During this period of social upheaval, Republican Presidential candidate*Richard Nixon*worked to attract southern white conservative voters to his candidacy and the Republican Party,*[4]*and Senator*Barry Goldwater*won the five formerly Confederate states of the*Deep South*(Alabama,*Georgia,Louisiana,*Mississippi, and*South Carolina) in the 1964 presidential election. In the*1968 presidential campaign, Nixon won Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, and Tennessee, all former Confederate states, contributing to the*electoral realignment*of white voters in some Southern states to the Republican Party.



History.
Get some.
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Follow your own advice. Nothing you said debunked anything that I said.

Comprehension ability
Get some.
 
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fort_vol said:
On a lighter note, the only person I've ever known that benefitted from affirmative action was a white guy from incredible wealth. Conveniently for him and his siblings, their dad was from South Africa. Throw in some slightly above average test scores and he went to Harvard and his sister went to Duke Medical.

People in power at universities don't always do their homework, I guess.
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If such is the case, you need to get out more.
 
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