Moore v. Strange

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Franklin Pierce said:
There remains the special election vs the democrat candidate on December 12th, but I think Moore will win handily.
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I think it's a pretty safe bet that Bama is not going to elect a democrat in a statewide election, no matter the republican candidate.
 
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I wonder if Alabamians ever look at the fact that they are near the bottom in per capita GDP and educational attainment, are ranked as one the worst places to start a business, have one of the most obese populations, and one of the shortest life expectancies, and think about maybe doing something differently
 
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sammyhagar said:
I wonder if Alabamians ever look at the fact that they are near the bottom in per capita GDP and educational attainment, are ranked as one the worst places to start a business, have one of the most obese populations, and one of the shortest life expectancies, and think about maybe doing something differently
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But those theybworship are rich and one day they'll be rich too....
 
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sammyhagar said:
I wonder if Alabamians ever look at the fact that they are near the bottom in per capita GDP and educational attainment, are ranked as one the worst places to start a business, have one of the most obese populations, and one of the shortest life expectancies, and think about maybe doing something differently
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The democrats controlled all of Alabama political offices for decades.
 
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sammyhagar said:
I wonder if Alabamians ever look at the fact that they are near the bottom in per capita GDP and educational attainment, are ranked as one the worst places to start a business, have one of the most obese populations, and one of the shortest life expectancies, and think about maybe doing something differently
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Democrats controlled the state legislature and most public offices for two centuries until 2011. In fact, to find another state so dominated by Democrats, you'd have to look at the rest of Southern states similarly run by Dems from at least the Civil War until 2010. It was total control until those populations thought "about maybe doing something differently".

In addition, those states have the highest percentages of blacks and Hispanics, the most difficult minority populations to bring forward educationally and economically. It is why the South has considerably higher rates of crime, and impacts obesity, too.

The current state of Southern states are a Democrat legacy. It might take Republicans more than six years to turn around perhaps an average of 150 years of negligent, Democratic governance in those states.
 
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The South began to turn Republican beginning with Richard Nixon in 1968, and by the 1972 presidential election, the Republican revolution in the South was Generally a juggernaut, in both presidential and congressional elections.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
The South began to turn Republican beginning with Richard Nixon in 1968, and by the 1972 presidential election, the Republican revolution in the South was Generally a juggernaut, in both presidential and congressional elections.
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The South began turning Republican only in federal elections.

However, the state legislatures were run, at minimum, by Democrats from at least the Civil War until 2010. State legislatures are most responsible for addressing the societal conditions he argues.

That fact destroys most of the left talking points regarding the condition of Southern states, especially as "welfare" states.
 
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The crowd at Moore’s election party broke into loud applause as media outlets called the race. Former White House strategist Steve Bannon took the stage to introduce Moore as supporters waving flags cheered Tuesday night.

“We have to return the knowledge of God and the Constitution of the United States to the United States Congress,” Moore told the crowd. He also said he supports the president and his agenda.

Merlene Bohannon, a widow with three grown children, said she had planned to vote for Strange until seeing Bannon stump for Moore on Fox News on Monday night.

“Steve Bannon and God spoke to me, and this morning when I went in I voted for Moore,” said Bohannon, 74.
 
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Moore’s victory was as big a victory for Bannon and the news site he directs as it was a loss for McConnell and the establishment.

Bannon, fighting on the opposite side of Trump, had been clear in proclaiming Moore as the anti-establishment conservative taking on the entrenched powers in Washington.

At a rally for Moore on Sunday, Bannon described McConnell and his allies as “corrupt and incompetent.”

Introducing a victorious Moore on Tuesday night, Bannon heralded a “revolution” spearheaded by populists who “do not have to raise money from the elites, the crony capitalists, from the fat cats in Washington, D.C., New York City and Silicon Valley.”

Breitbart was just as celebratory. “Blowout in ‘Bama,” its main headline proclaimed atop a homepage crammed full of headlines insisting, among other things, that the GOP establishment had been “brought to [its] knees.”

Bannon’s enemies within the GOP, of whom there are plenty, will roll their eyes at what they see as self-aggrandizement. But this was clearly a huge win for the pugnacious strategist and his acolytes.

http://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/352614-five-takeaways-from-the-alabama-run-off
 
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luthervol said:
Not my loss. trump supported the other guy, sounds like his loss. Moore evidently is a lunatic, should be fun to watch. Plus SNL just got a new guy to parody.
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This wasn't a referendum on Trump, he was merely repaying Luther for his loyalty in supporting him. The real loser in all this is Mitch McConnell and the establishment GOP. The people of Alabama have spoken loud and clear.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
This wasn't a referendum on Trump, he was merely repaying Luther for his loyalty in supporting him. The real loser in all this is Mitch McConnell and the establishment GOP. The people of Alabama have spoken loud and clear.
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260,000 votes. Out of 4.9 million people. 5% of Bama spoke loudly and clearly. No shock that 5% are Bietbart loving lunatics.
 
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AirVol said:
No surprise huh? The Dems kept Robert Byrd in the Senate forever. Hell, they even have schools named after him.
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It's not like Strange strayed from Trumps agenda, he was an adamant supporter. Crazy that people would rather elect a theocrat.
 
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NCFisher said:
Democrats controlled the state legislature and most public offices for two centuries until 2011. In fact, to find another state so dominated by Democrats, you'd have to look at the rest of Southern states similarly run by Dems from at least the Civil War until 2010. It was total control until those populations thought "about maybe doing something differently".

In addition, those states have the highest percentages of blacks and Hispanics, the most difficult minority populations to bring forward educationally and economically. It is why the South has considerably higher rates of crime, and impacts obesity, too.

The current state of Southern states are a Democrat legacy. It might take Republicans more than six years to turn around perhaps an average of 150 years of negligent, Democratic governance in those states.
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You're missing a key point: Southern states are a CONSERVATIVE legacy. Southern Democrats were right wingers until the 1960s/70s and then, because of Civil Rights and other issues, conservative pols switched to the GOP. It's not the party that counts, it's the philosophy. And the conservative philosophy has left the South poor and backward...still.
 
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NCFisher said:
Democrats controlled the state legislature and most public offices for two centuries until 2011. In fact, to find another state so dominated by Democrats, you'd have to look at the rest of Southern states similarly run by Dems from at least the Civil War until 2010. It was total control until those populations thought "about maybe doing something differently".

In addition, those states have the highest percentages of blacks and Hispanics, the most difficult minority populations to bring forward educationally and economically. It is why the South has considerably higher rates of crime, and impacts obesity, too.

The current state of Southern states are a Democrat legacy. It might take Republicans more than six years to turn around perhaps an average of 150 years of negligent, Democratic governance in those states.
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You're missing a key point: Southern states are a CONSERVATIVE legacy. Southern Democrats were right wingers until the 1960s/70s and then, because of Civil Rights and other issues, conservative pols switched to the GOP. It's not the party that counts, it's the philosophy. And the conservative philosophy has left the South poor and backward...still.
 
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Can't believe Moore won. I actually like living here, but as a whole the Alabama electorate is dumb.
 
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