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Rasputin_Vol said:
One more time... and to be clear... If two states or entities are at war, then a 3rd party that gives targeting info for one of the warring factions, then does that mean that 3rd party is a legitimate target and combatant?

It really isn't that hard to understand.
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Iran is at the center of every conflict point save Ukraine. They aren't some third party passing intelligence. They are funding and supplying the weapons for the targeting of commerce and civilians. Quit trying to play coy and attempting to compare apples and plums..........
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
That is patently false. We could unleash wave after wave of total destruction on these camelhumpers in both Yemen and Iran using only conventional weapons. No nukes needed.
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How can you seriously say that when we don't have the industrial/manufacturing capacity and we are struggling to supply Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan?

Is this hopium on your part?

marcusluvsvols said:
We just have limpdeck leadership that wants to halfazz everything from the White House to Bidens cabinet/admin.
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Sounds like the same thing I've heard my entire life. From Vietnam until now. The "leadership" stood in the way of victory.

Well, what is different right now? Is this leadership any different than any other in the past 70-80 years?

marcusluvsvols said:
It would be very foolish to spend hundreds or thousands of Tomahawks and other ordinance on these pissants when Sloppy Joe already has us entangled in Ukraine.
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OK, we agree so far.

marcusluvsvols said:
China is already doing whatever they want because they own Biden and have since he was a VP.
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Really? I'm no fan of China, but if there is clearly evidence of Biden conflict of interest or blackmail kompromat, then your eyes would/should be obviously aimed at Ukraine, not China.

marcusluvsvols said:
If we expend or give away too much of our ordinance then China will finally invade Taiwan before feckless Joe leaves office.
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So?

How is Taiwan or Ukraine or Israel or anyone else in our national interest or of higher priority than OUR OWN G**AMN SOUTHERN BORDER???!!!

marcusluvsvols said:
Theres lots of moving parts here...and FJB has made a mess of each and every aspect of this situation. As was expected.
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Rarely will you see/hear me defend FJB, but this is has been the inevitable path that we were going to go down based on the past 80+ years of pizz poor foreign policy and hubris. To put all of this on Joe Biden is unfair and unjust. Every POTUS since WWII has conributed to this. The US does not engage in diplomacy and/or mutually beneficial commerce. We engage in bully politics and hegemonic domination. And it has finally started to catch up with us. No one is willing to take it anymore. And the weapons and threats of the US are being countered on an ever increasing scale. If the North Koweans, North Vietnamese, Taliban, Syrian Army and Houthis DGAF about US belligerence, you would think that we may decide to either change out strategy/tactics accordingly.

Instead of leading with our military, what if we actually tried to be capitalists and engage in mutually beneficial commerce? If people are too busy working with each other to make money, then they have no incentive to engage in war/conflict. Instability is bad for business.
 
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4 Charged In Incident Connected To Death Of 2 Navy SEALs In Arabian Sea​


Four men were charged Thursday in federal court in relation to an incident that led to the death of two Navy SEALs in the Arabian Sea in January, according to the Department of Justice(DOJ).

Muhammad Pahlawan, Mohammad Mazhar, Ghufran Ullah and Izhar Muhammad were charged in federal court in connection with the Jan. 11 incident in which Navy Special Warfare Operator 1st Class Christopher J. Chambers and Navy Special Warfare Operator 2nd Class Nathan Gage Ingram were swept overboard while seizing Iranian-made weapons in the Arabian Sea, according to a DOJ release. Ingram and Chambers were declared dead by the United States Navy on Jan. 22. (RELATED: ‘Waited Way Too Long’: Republicans, Former Trump Officials Rip Biden After Strikes In Iraq And Syria)

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“During a search of the dhow, the Boarding Team ultimately located and seized what is believed to be Iranian-made advanced conventional weaponry,” FBI Special Agent Patrick Francisco said in a DOJ court filing. “Preliminary analysis of the advanced conventional weaponry indicates that it includes critical components for medium range ballistic missiles (‘MRBM’) and anti-ship cruise missiles (‘ASCM’), to include a warhead, and propulsion and guidance components.”

dailycaller.com

4 Charged In Incident Connected To Death Of 2 Navy SEALs In Arabian Sea

Four men appeared in federal court to face charges stemming from an incident that led to the death of two Navy SEALs, according to the Justice Department.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How can you seriously say that when we don't have the industrial/manufacturing capacity and we are struggling to supply Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan?

Is this hopium on your part?


Sounds like the same thing I've heard my entire life. From Vietnam until now. The "leadership" stood in the way of victory.

Well, what is different right now? Is this leadership any different than any other in the past 70-80 years?


OK, we agree so far.


Really? I'm no fan of China, but if there is clearly evidence of Biden conflict of interest or blackmail kompromat, then your eyes would/should be obviously aimed at Ukraine, not China.


So?

How is Taiwan or Ukraine or Israel or anyone else in our national interest or of higher priority than OUR OWN G**AMN SOUTHERN BORDER???!!!


Rarely will you see/hear me defend FJB, but this is has been the inevitable path that we were going to go down based on the past 80+ years of pizz poor foreign policy and hubris. To put all of this on Joe Biden is unfair and unjust. Every POTUS since WWII has conributed to this. The US does not engage in diplomacy and/or mutually beneficial commerce. We engage in bully politics and hegemonic domination. And it has finally started to catch up with us. No one is willing to take it anymore. And the weapons and threats of the US are being countered on an ever increasing scale. If the North Koweans, North Vietnamese, Taliban, Syrian Army and Houthis DGAF about US belligerence, you would think that we may decide to either change out strategy/tactics accordingly.

Instead of leading with our military, what if we actually tried to be capitalists and engage in mutually beneficial commerce? If people are too busy working with each other to make money, then they have no incentive to engage in war/conflict. Instability is bad for business.
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Tennessee has more industry than most of Russia lol
 
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lawgator1 said:
Ras has two goals in any commentary: first, to undermine confidence in our military capabilities and whether we are even capable of exerting force at a scale we think we can; and, 2) to try to make it appear that his commentary criticizing Biden would align his attacks on the US military in Ukraine with Republican interests here at home.

It's just standard divide and conquer rhetoric. The only question is whether Putin pays him by the word or by the post.
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Don’t forget hating on Israel
 
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Matt2496 said:
www.jpost.com

Houthis knock out underwater cables linking Europe to Asia - report

The successful targeting of the four cables, which are believed to belong to the AAE-1, Seacom, EIG, and TGN systems, marks a serious disruption of communications between Europe and Asia.
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It's crazy we still keep letting this stuff happen.
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What do you mean by "letting"?

You act as though we have the ability to stop it, but don't. Like we are being held back.

Sort of like the same tired arguments I hear all the time about Vietnam and Afghanistan.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Do a little research. Ask yourself... who would be funding these Baloch militias? And who would benefit by making sure Chinese infractructure projects are hindered by terrrorists?

Possible Merger of Baloch Militant Groups Threatens Pakistani and Chinese Interests

Impact on Pakistan and China

The new post-merger movement’s name and leadership have not yet been decided, but the unification could enhance Baloch militants’ presence in areas that are currently less affected by the insurgency. The merger may further increase the occurrence of activities against China-led projects, particularly those linked to the $65 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). If the merger materializes, the two most influential and deadliest Baloch militant groups are likely to escalate attacks on law enforcement agencies and Chinese interests along the Makran coast. Makran has been a geographic center of CPEC activity, along with Karachi.


Yep, the Ottomans used them tp help with the Armenian genocide.


At the very least, my stance is that it should be none of our business. But if we are arming and supporting one side of a regional conflct, then we are complicit. Just like we arm Israel, we arm the Kurds.
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More nonsense by The US backed terrorists in Pakistan.

Team Of Chinese Engineers Targeted By Suicide Bomber In Pakistan

Just a week ago there was a prior major terror attack at Pakistan's strategic port city of Gwadar, which is crucial to the multi-billion dollar China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). A group of heavily armed militants stormed the complex last Wednesday and engaged in a lengthy firefight with security forces.

Pakistan authorities identified the attackers as Baloch separatists, which had also been armed with bombs. At least seven of the militants were shot dead by security forces. The port has for more than the past decade been run by the China Overseas Port Holding Company.

Ethnic separatist and radical Islamic terrorist organizations have for years waged a long-running insurgency against the government and its foreign partners, accusing Islamabad of exploiting the population of the region.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
More nonsense by The US backed terrorists in Pakistan.

Team Of Chinese Engineers Targeted By Suicide Bomber In Pakistan

Just a week ago there was a prior major terror attack at Pakistan's strategic port city of Gwadar, which is crucial to the multi-billion dollar China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). A group of heavily armed militants stormed the complex last Wednesday and engaged in a lengthy firefight with security forces.

Pakistan authorities identified the attackers as Baloch separatists, which had also been armed with bombs. At least seven of the militants were shot dead by security forces. The port has for more than the past decade been run by the China Overseas Port Holding Company.

Ethnic separatist and radical Islamic terrorist organizations have for years waged a long-running insurgency against the government and its foreign partners, accusing Islamabad of exploiting the population of the region.
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US backed but then quotes that they are separatists. separatists who have been fighting for their independence since before the US was a country. but yeah its somehow our fault.
 
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C'mon. First the Ukraine didn't participate in the Moscow bombing. Then, the US didn't participate. And today, the US didn't participate in Iranian embassy bombing.

Slavyangrad

Axios reports that America has told Iran that it "had no involvement" nor did Israel tell them in advance of their plans to strike the embassy. As noted by the article this rare communication "shows the Biden administration is deeply concerned that the Israeli strike could lead to a regional escalation and the resumption of attacks by pro-Iranian militias against U.S. forces."

- Though who supplies the planes, bomb, and missiles of Israel?

Iran says they will be taking revenge and the strike is in breach of "breach of all international conventions."

Israeli intelligence reports they've been tracking Zahedi for days and it was a rare window to strike. They also note they notified Biden's team a few minutes before the strike occurred.

Jake Sullivan and Blinken had a long conversation with Israeli officials about Rafah but it is reported they never discussed the embassy bombing.

- Will Iran hold the US responsible? It is certain they will respond but outside of striking Israel operations in Kurdish regions of Iraq they've never attacked Israel directly.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
C'mon. First the Ukraine didn't participate in the Moscow bombing. Then, the US didn't participate. And today, the US didn't participate in Iranian embassy bombing.

Slavyangrad

Axios reports that America has told Iran that it "had no involvement" nor did Israel tell them in advance of their plans to strike the embassy. As noted by the article this rare communication "shows the Biden administration is deeply concerned that the Israeli strike could lead to a regional escalation and the resumption of attacks by pro-Iranian militias against U.S. forces."

- Though who supplies the planes, bomb, and missiles of Israel?

Iran says they will be taking revenge and the strike is in breach of "breach of all international conventions."

Israeli intelligence reports they've been tracking Zahedi for days and it was a rare window to strike. They also note they notified Biden's team a few minutes before the strike occurred.

Jake Sullivan and Blinken had a long conversation with Israeli officials about Rafah but it is reported they never discussed the embassy bombing.

- Will Iran hold the US responsible? It is certain they will respond but outside of striking Israel operations in Kurdish regions of Iraq they've never attacked Israel directly.
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#700
Rasputin_Vol said:
C'mon. First the Ukraine didn't participate in the Moscow bombing. Then, the US didn't participate. And today, the US didn't participate in Iranian embassy bombing.

Slavyangrad

Axios reports that America has told Iran that it "had no involvement" nor did Israel tell them in advance of their plans to strike the embassy. As noted by the article this rare communication "shows the Biden administration is deeply concerned that the Israeli strike could lead to a regional escalation and the resumption of attacks by pro-Iranian militias against U.S. forces."

- Though who supplies the planes, bomb, and missiles of Israel?

Iran says they will be taking revenge and the strike is in breach of "breach of all international conventions."

Israeli intelligence reports they've been tracking Zahedi for days and it was a rare window to strike. They also note they notified Biden's team a few minutes before the strike occurred.

Jake Sullivan and Blinken had a long conversation with Israeli officials about Rafah but it is reported they never discussed the embassy bombing.

- Will Iran hold the US responsible? It is certain they will respond but outside of striking Israel operations in Kurdish regions of Iraq they've never attacked Israel directly.
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If they hit the US they are through, and they know it. They will continue to strike through proxies because they don't want the heat.
 
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