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Pacer92 said:
And I already mentioned that tech…cruise missile systems, drones, electronic warfare systems, helicopters, AI, etc..

The same 20mm auto cannon that is the last line of defense?

Keep thinking these are like Palestinian water pipe bombs..
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Yes, we can knock Iranian cruise missiles down at all 3 levels.

Long Range - SM Interceptors
Short Range - Sea Sparrows
Point Defense - CIWS Auto-Cannon

US Boats are undefeated at all 3 levels.

You’ll soon be able to add high-energy microwave emitters to that defensive matrix. I’m sure the Iran will have something for those too.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Yes, we can knock Iranian cruise missiles down at all 3 levels.

Long Range - SM Interceptors
Short Range - Sea Sparrows
Point Defense - CIWS Auto-Cannon

US Boats are undefeated at all 3 levels.

You’ll soon be able to add high-energy microwave emitters to that defensive matrix. I’m sure the Iran will have something for those too.
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Our military capabilities and tech is the best in the world….and it should be with how we outspend just about everyone combined. However, the majority of our tech has been stolen or hacked…it’s no secret. Don’t think that Russia, China and Iran haven’t been developing countermeasures for decades..

And the Houthis fired a single anti-ship cruise missile that wasn’t neutralized by the first two..
 
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Pacer92 said:
Our military capabilities and tech is the best in the world….and it should be with how we outspend just about everyone combined. However, the majority of our tech has been stolen or hacked…it’s no secret. Don’t think that Russia, China and Iran haven’t been developing countermeasures for decades..

And the Houthis fired a single anti-ship cruise missile that wasn’t neutralized by the first two..
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What? The Houthis have fired dozens. Why do you think Ras keeps goin on about the cost-benefit.

And do you think all of our tech has remained stagnant while some of it has leaked out?

The Chinese don’t have anything that can contend with our frequency hopping technology.
What stolen tech does Russia posses that can counter microwaves traveling at the speed of light?
 
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85SugarVol said:
Yes, we can knock Iranian cruise missiles down at all 3 levels.

Long Range - SM Interceptors
Short Range - Sea Sparrows
Point Defense - CIWS Auto-Cannon

US Boats are undefeated at all 3 levels.

You’ll soon be able to add high-energy microwave emitters to that defensive matrix. I’m sure the Iran will have something for those too.
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interestingengineering.com

US Navy and MDA pull off a stellar missile defense test in Hawaii

The data will help improve the modeling and simulation of future tracking and discrimination capabilities and enhancements.
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Lol. Even the Longbow Apaches are getting a little "long in the tooth"....but what an excellent killing machine. Choppers have innate limitations and vulnerabilities due to their lack of speed etc, but if you're in a tank, boat, or pretty much anything without a good missile system you're just plain dead. Fortunately we don't put Apaches in the battlefield until after the Tomahawks and bombers have cleared out those pesky SAM sites and whatnot.


 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Why is the ME any of our business?
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Because it is rich in oil and we live in a global economy. If we become isolationists we become weak.

But you already know this. It's the same reason China is doing everything to expand its influence globally. Quit playing dumb, we already know you're not this naive. I'm not sure why you play the role though.
 
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This Iranian boat the US conducted a cyberattack against would be interesting to hear more about. The Iranian spy boat was giving target Information to the houthis so the US responded.
 
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TVOLS said:
This Iranian boat the US conducted a cyberattack against would be interesting to hear more about. The Iranian spy boat was giving target Information to the houthis so the US responded.
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So to be clear, any 3rd party that gives targeting information to one side of a conflict is a legitimate military target?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So to be clear, any 3rd party that gives targeting information to one side of a conflict is a legitimate military target?
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Not sure where you are going with this, but sounds like the US helped stop (or slow down) attacks against civilian cargo vessels which in my understanding is unarmed. I see no fault in that. Also, I'm more interested in the cyberattack itself on how and what did it cause on the Iranian boat.



www.nbcnews.com

U.S. conducted cyberattack on suspected Iranian spy ship

The covert operation was intended to inhibit the ship’s ability to share intelligence with Houthi rebels who have been attacking cargo ships in the Red Sea.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 
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TVOLS said:
Not sure where you are going with this, but sounds like the US helped stop (or slow down) attacks against civilian cargo vessels which in my understanding is unarmed. I see no fault in that. Also, I'm more interested in the cyberattack itself on how and what did it cause on the Iranian boat.



www.nbcnews.com

U.S. conducted cyberattack on suspected Iranian spy ship

The covert operation was intended to inhibit the ship’s ability to share intelligence with Houthi rebels who have been attacking cargo ships in the Red Sea.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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future of warfare..well the now of warfare. if **** hits fan with China or Russia, I suspect the home front will be on the frontline and it will halt everything.

Captain Obvious statement.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So to be clear, any 3rd party that gives targeting information to one side of a conflict is a legitimate military target?
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Yes, and I know what you are getting at. If Iran or Russia wants to target US military installations or personnel helping their “enemies“ they are well within their rights. And of course we would be well within our rights to retaliate.
 
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TVOLS said:
Not sure where you are going with this
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One more time... and to be clear... If two states or entities are at war, then a 3rd party that gives targeting info for one of the warring factions, then does that mean that 3rd party is a legitimate target and combatant?

It really isn't that hard to understand.
 
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Orangeburst said:
future of warfare..well the now of warfare. if **** hits fan with China or Russia, I suspect the home front will be on the frontline and it will halt everything.

Captain Obvious statement.
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Are you OK with that?

It certainly sounds like you are.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
One more time... and to be clear... If two states or entities are at war, then a 3rd party that gives targeting info for one of the warring factions, then does that mean that 3rd party is a legitimate target and combatant?

It really isn't that hard to understand.
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Yes it does. Now what happens when one of them does?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So to be clear, any 3rd party that gives targeting information to one side of a conflict is a legitimate military target?
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I would expect that elements that do so from within international waters/air, or over/in the warring zone are "fair game".

and yes that does in US stuff in Ukraine, but like the Iranian Phantom's found out, just because there is an unarmed spy plane in the area doesn't mean it is in the area alone.

gets tricky if said elements are working from within their home territory. Like some Romanian or Polish observation tower spotting Russian planes on their home radar and then letting Ukraine know. I would say in that case its "hands off". But a US Predator or Global Hawk getting shot down in NATO airspace is going to be a clear no-no. out over the middle of the black sea its a different game.
 
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www.bbc.com

Crew abandon British-registered cargo ship off Yemen after Houthi attack

The missile strike by the Houthis on the British-registered vessel is one of the most damaging yet.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
www.foxnews.com

Houthis claim to shoot down US MQ-9 Reaper drone in Red Sea

Two U.S. officials tell Fox News an Air Force MQ-9 Reaper drone has crashed near Yemen after Houthi rebels claimed to have shot one down.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
www.ynetnews.com

Houthis reportedly sink British ship in Red Sea

Yemeni rebels attempting to impose a blockade on Israel fired rockets on a British ship and reportedly managed to sink it, the first time it has succeeded since the start of Israel's war on Hamas in Gaza
www.ynetnews.com www.ynetnews.com

Looks like our air strikes have really been effective. "Operation Prosperity Guardian"... what a joke.

We really need better leaders in the White House and military.
 
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Matt2496 said:
Looks like our air strikes have really been effective. "Operation Prosperity Guardian"... what a joke.

We really need better leaders in the White House and military.
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I told you all this weeks ago but I was a stooge and a clown. Now you are seeing what I've been saying.

No no no... 'Murica... let's just bomb them into the Stone Age... Right?

The truth is that the US cannot do jack diddly-squat to intimidate or stop any of this outside of agreeing to use diplomacy.
 
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#674
Rasputin_Vol said:
I told you all this weeks ago but I was a stooge and a clown. Now you are seeing what I've been saying.

No no no... 'Murica... let's just bomb them into the Stone Age... Right?

The truth is that the US cannot do jack diddly-squat to intimidate or stop any of this outside of agreeing to use diplomacy.
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That is patently false. We could unleash wave after wave of total destruction on these camelhumpers in both Yemen and Iran using only conventional weapons. No nukes needed. We just have limpdeck leadership that wants to halfazz everything from the White House to Bidens cabinet/admin. It would be very foolish to spend hundreds or thousands of Tomahawks and other ordinance on these pissants when Sloppy Joe already has us entangled in Ukraine. China is already doing whatever they want because they own Biden and have since he was a VP. If we expend or give away too much of our ordinance then China will finally invade Taiwan before feckless Joe leaves office. Theres lots of moving parts here...and FJB has made a mess of each and every aspect of this situation. As was expected.
 
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#675
Rasputin_Vol said:
So to be clear, any 3rd party that gives targeting information to one side of a conflict is a legitimate military target?
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If you are an enemy and ally of those who are commiting similar cyber attacks against the US and others in Europe and elsewhere, while supporting a third party targeting civilians with their military yes..... absolutely.
 
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