ACvol3
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That stadium is going to average 90,000-100,000 paying customers every home game regardless of how unacceptable the coaching decisions become and they will continue to yell in support when these young men, not kids, come out, through that "T", in support of their / our university.You don't like how we lost, ok we get it. Now please get over it, it isnt about you!
It's about these kids turning it around and as long as the team walks on the field its our job to be there supporting and lifting them up!!
The way we lost? Our program/coaches would've looked better if we had gotten beat by 20 than by a score in overtime to ou and a point to uf? I really don't get that argument... We have obviously improved as a football program.
The way we lost? Our program/coaches would've looked better if we had gotten beat by 20 than by a score in overtime to ou and a point to uf? I really don't get that argument... We have obviously improved as a football program.
We've improved because now we are losing by a slimmer margin? Speaking of arguments, that makes no sense at all. When you fail an exam, does it really matter by how much?
I understand your logic, however, I don't agree with it. Derek Dooley and Butch Jones's records are virtually identical and Dooley had far less talent to work with. I am not sure that bodes well for Butch Jones in the grand scheme of things. Bottom line, many Tennessee fans have become conditioned to losing, and use a slimmer margin of defeat as the measuring tool for celebration. Butch Jones has underperformed. If 3 years is enough to get Will Muschamp fired, why should Tennessee's standards be any less? After all, hasn't Florida been the team Tennessee's been chasing the last 11 years?
I have to disagree.
First, the team that Butch inherited from Dooley was MUCH worse than what Fulmer/Kiffen left for Dooley. The talent on the team has been added over the last two recruiting cylces and that is seen just by looking at the depth chart.
To stick with your analogy, you are right - if you fail an exam it doesn't matter if it is by 1 pt or 99 pts. You failed that one exam.
UT doesn't play ONE game every season. And butch hasn't coached just one season. Over a season you can track improvement by how competitively your games are played. Over a few seasons you have the opportunity to watch a kid like Hurd develop.
I know it sucks to lose how we have been losing (and it really pizzez me off too) but I remember Sunseri's defense losing that game to FL in 2012 in a humiliating blow out. I would much rather be sick to my stomach over a close loss than numbly accept that UT has gotten progressively worse over the last few years.
The margin of victory matters. This team is better that it has been in years. Butch just needs to make some damn changes and I, for one, think he will.
I mean it less in the literal sense of "inky said he reads VN" and more in the what he's talking about is applicable to a majority of what's being posted/said on VN
Fan negativity on a message board or social media website doesn't have a damn thing to do with this team's eventual 2-5 start in year 3.
Some are choosing to stay patient in year 7 of a perpetual rebuilding process for one of the top 5 universities in the history of the sport when combining past history and current resources, luxuries, and advantages.
Others are choosing to be critical of men being paid hundreds of thousands, even millions of dollars, to coach football and believe it or not, may not be what some thought they would be, but because it makes the positive fans feel bad or unable to share rays of sunshine with a majority to justify their position, they start slinging just as much "shade" as those who are negative.
Inky has a personal connection to the football program and rightfully is going to be biased for positivity if the team was sitting at 2-8 in year 6.
Im simply tired of waiting for next season and refuse to do it for another seven years. I've seen all from Butch Jones that I need to see to form my opinion. He's a good recruiter and habitual micro manager. He's a terrible in game coach who has repeated poor results in big time games. That's not good enough for me. So I will continue to *****.
What if we are 7-5 or 8-4 next year and the streaks are continuing. We don't know. Do we then wait another year?
Well too bad they aren't meeting your standards, but who the hell do you think you are? They don't owe you anything, and I would bet that 99% of the players/coaches don't know, or care, who the hell you are.
This is what I hate about our fanbase. People think that just bc they watch the games every Saturday, they deserve to get a win. Unless you are doing something to help the team win, this team doesn't owe you jack!
Well too bad they aren't meeting your standards, but who the hell do you think you are? They don't owe you anything, and I would bet that 99% of the players/coaches don't know, or care, who the hell you are.
This is what I hate about our fanbase. People think that just bc they watch the games every Saturday, they deserve to get a win. Unless you are doing something to help the team win, this team doesn't owe you jack!
Well why are the games played then? Can't we all just be honest with each other? Its time for Tennessee to start winning some damn football games.