Zimmerman Trial

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bamawriter said:
It hasn't been getting nearly enough attention, but one of the neighbors yesterday testified she saw the two fighting, and it looked to her that Zimmerman had the upper hand. She then claims she heard three shots fired. In her words, she heard "pop, pop, pop."

The problem? There was only one shot fired.
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What race is the neighbor?
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
No... actually I don't, which is why I asked the question?

Is it even intentional? Perhaps.

But if so... why? What do they possibly have to gain by using an outdated picture of TM?
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Whatever the thought process behind it, it affected the testimony of an earlier witness. She claimed she saw Zimmerman on top of Martin. When pressed as to how she knew which was which, so said she'd seen photos of both and Martin appeared to be really small.
 
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bamawriter said:
Whatever the thought process behind it, it affected the testimony of an earlier witness. She claimed she saw Zimmerman on top of Martin. When pressed as to how she knew which was which, so said she'd seen photos of both and Martin appeared to be really small.
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Thing is, if we are talking about the same witness, she based that on media photos of him when he was 10 yrs old, not 17. She also thought that the guy who was on top and got up and walked around after the shot was wearing black, and the guy on the bottom and who was shot was wearing red.

TM was wearing black, GZ was wearing red.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Thing is, if we are talking about the same witness, she based that on media photos of him when he was 10 yrs old, not 17. She also thought that the guy who was on top and got up and walked around after the shot was wearing black, and the guy on the bottom and who was shot was wearing red.

TM was wearing black, GZ was wearing red.
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Yep. Her testimony was basically crap.
 
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bamawriter said:
Whatever the thought process behind it, it affected the testimony of an earlier witness. She claimed she saw Zimmerman on top of Martin. When pressed as to how she knew which was which, so said she'd seen photos of both and Martin appeared to be really small.
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Interesting... I hadn't heard that.
 
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Witness testified people in her neighborhood routinely called white people crackers - guess none will have a show on the Food Network
 
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Zimmerman Prosecution Star Witness: 'Cracker' Not a Racial Term

Jeantel said she didn't believe "cracker" was a racial term, after testifying yesterday that Martin said that a "creepy ass cracker" was following him.

Zimmerman Prosecution Star Witness: 'Cracker' Not a Racial Term

Of course not, she was taught that only whites are racist!


This witness was literally the gift that keeps on giving..the prosecutions worst nightmare..the only true racist was Trayvon Martin..
 
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volinbham said:
Witness testified people in her neighborhood routinely called white people crackers - guess none will have a show on the Food Network
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So far it seems like the only person guilty of racial profiling in this whole case was Treyvon Martin. Since he thought the "cracker" looked like a rapist.
 
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Vol Main said:
When did that happen...or are you just making that up?
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Not making it up. My two older daughters graduated HS in 05 and 07 and they learned it, but my 4 younger ones (2 going into 11th, 1 in 8th and 1 in 7th) haven't mastered it. I think they "go over it" but don't require the kids to learn it or use it.
 
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YorkVol said:
Not making it up. My two older daughters graduated HS in 05 and 07 and they learned it, but my 4 younger ones (2 going into 11th, 1 in 8th and 1 in 7th) haven't mastered it. I think they "go over it" but don't require the kids to learn it or use it.
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Please tell me you've been neutured.
 
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Whoa... The prosecution just questioned a witness about Zimmerman's past. Doesn't that open the door for the defense to introduce evidence about Martin's past?
 
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Vol Main said:
Whoa... The prosecution just questioned a witness about Zimmerman's past. Doesn't that open the door for the defense to introduce evidence about Martin's past?
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I don't think so - the ruling on keeping Martin's past out was that regardless of what it was there was no way GZ would have known that.

For GZ, I assume the logic is to show him as having certain tendencies.

Not saying I agree with it but that's what I recall as being the reason for not admitting evidence about Martin's drug use, posing with a gun, involvement in fights, etc.
 
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volinbham said:
Witness testified people in her neighborhood routinely called white people crackers - guess none will have a show on the Food Network
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I doubt there where any white people in her neighborhood..at least not in police uniforms.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I gotta read this when I get home. I just bet it is full of fail.

White people aren't the only ones that will need a translation/understanding. Black people like myself are gonna need to be brought in the loop also.
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Full of all kinds of epic fail that would make Lawgator blush. She defends this blubbering idiot by saying not to mistake her obvious mental deficiencies for that but instead as a strong and defensive stance against the situation. Ethnicity card is played; obviously people of Haitian descent living in Miami are oblivious to reality and easily mistaken for being mentally handicapped.

And the facebook comments are full of even more limp wristed liberal fail.
 
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tvols75 said:
And here is the first of probably many

What White People Don't Understand About Rachel Jeantel By Rachel Samara | Global Grind
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Author's premise is wrong. She feels defense trying to discredit her by a saying she's stupid. Thing is, intelligence DOES matter for a witness because it goes to how well they perceive what is going on.

It also plays a role in how they might be manipulated by people involved in the case who have an agenda. What little I saw of her that seemed to me to be the line of attack.

So, I agree that most of us cannot relate to the life of a Haitian girl growing up in Miami, who is suddenly thrust into a major controversy through no fault of her own. But that doesn't in turn mean that her ability to accurately perceive, or relate what she perceives, is not the subject of fair debate and criticism.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Author's premise is wrong. She feels defense trying to discredit her by a saying she's stupid. Thing is, intelligence DOES matter for a witness because it goes to how well they perceive what is going on.

It also plays a role in how they might be manipulated by people involved in the case who have an agenda. What little I saw of her that seemed to me to be the line of attack.

So, I agree that most of us cannot relate to the life of a Haitian girl growing up in Miami, who is suddenly thrust into a major controversy through no fault of her own. But that doesn't in turn mean that her ability to accurately perceive, or relate what she perceives, is not the subject of fair debate and criticism.
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Great.

Would you have used her as a witness?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Author's premise is wrong. She feels defense trying to discredit her by a saying she's stupid. Thing is, intelligence DOES matter for a witness because it goes to how well they perceive what is going on.

It also plays a role in how they might be manipulated by people involved in the case who have an agenda. What little I saw of her that seemed to me to be the line of attack.

So, I agree that most of us cannot relate to the life of a Haitian girl growing up in Miami, who is suddenly thrust into a major controversy through no fault of her own. But that doesn't in turn mean that her ability to accurately perceive, or relate what she perceives, is not the subject of fair debate and criticism.
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Which one is you in the comments under the article?
 
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