Zimmerman Trial

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#152
tvols75 said:
"Putting aside use of offensive language, Rachel Jeantel's testimony was very strong. Trayvon was running away from George and afraid of him."
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Really looking forward to somebody answering the question of how TM didn't succeed in getting away. The 911 call would seem to clearly indicate TM was long gone and GZ was setting up where to meet the cops. So how did they meet up again without it being something TM wanted? TM should have been back at his place eating Skittles and drinking tea.
 
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#153
#153
tvols75 said:
And here is the first of probably many

What White People Don't Understand About Rachel Jeantel By Rachel Samara | Global Grind
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Good lord - why is there this constant "that person can't understand". So would the same be true if the jurors were black and the witness was white?

We all have different lives and life experiences.

For example - why would only a black person feel this...

But let's not forget why she's actually on the stand in George Zimmerman's second degree murder trial. Rachel was the last person to speak to a living, breathing Trayvon Martin. The guilt, shame and sorrow she must feel is something most of us will never be able to comprehend. You could hear it in her voice, see it in her jittery body language. She is feeling the wrath of this highly publicized case.
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hndog609 said:
Really looking forward to somebody answering the question of how TM didn't succeed in getting away. The 911 call would seem to clearly indicate TM was long gone and GZ was setting up where to meet the cops. So how did they meet up again without it being something TM wanted? TM should have been back at his place eating Skittles and drinking tea.
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Explain to me how a young athletic black man couldn't outrun GZ? Give me a break. Either GZ is a freak of nature or somebody is lying.
 
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bamawriter said:
She's a lot less testy today, but no more helpful to the State's case.
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The crucial question is whether or not the jury will believe her testimony that Martin said "get off, get off." That was not the testimony of what she heard in her original statements. It is important because the prosecution is portraying Zimmerman as the aggressor, and it has a few witnesses backing up that version. Their testimony is not sound, but they are stating that as their belief. The defense needs to create more than a reasonable doubt about that, but it must do at least that much.
 
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#159
When the State's attorney interviewed this witness, Trayvon Martin's family was present. Trayvon's mother was actually sitting right next to her while the attorney questioned her - that is ridiculous.
 
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Vol4LifeLCA said:
When the State's attorney interviewed this witness, Trayvon Martin's family was present. Trayvon's mother was actually sitting right next to her while the attorney questioned her - that is ridiculous.
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What's the problem? They have been assigned a place in the court room and will be there throughout the trial.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Explain to me how a young athletic black man couldn't outrun GZ? Give me a break. Either GZ is a freak of nature or somebody is lying.
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That is such an obvious and important point that the defense will surely make it at some time. Now it is busy trying to discredit damaging testimony of the prosecution witnesses. Jeantel said that Martin was close to the place he was staying, so there should be questions about why he returned to the location of the shooting. Also, the testimony about which direction he was running should be examined again. Jeantel in effect testified that Martin ran South, but another witness said she heard running towards the North.
 
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Vol4LifeLCA said:
When the State's attorney interviewed this witness, Trayvon Martin's family was present. Trayvon's mother was actually sitting right next to her while the attorney questioned her - that is ridiculous.
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Lawyers correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that family members were not supposed to contact witnesses, as the Martin family and their attorney did with this witness, who inexplicably changed her testimony.
 
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Vol Main said:
Lawyers correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that family members were not supposed to contact witnesses, as the Martin family and their attorney did with this witness, who inexplicably changed her testimony.
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That is incorrect. They can contact witnesses. They just cannot dissuade them from testifying or threaten to testify a certain way.
 
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#166
not great for your star witness

George Zimmerman Witness Can't Read Letter She 'Wrote' About Shooting - ABC News

A teenage friend of Trayvon Martin was forced to admit today in the George Zimmerman murder trial that she did not write a letter that was sent to Martin's mother describing what she allegedly heard on a phone call with Martin moments before he was shot.
In a painfully embarassing moment, Rachel Jeantel was asked to read the letter out loud in court.
"Are you able to read that at all?" defense attorney Don West asked.
Jeantel, head bowed, eyes averted whispered into the court microphone, "Some but not all. I don't read cursive."
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I am talking about when the State first interviewed her to give them the basis for probable cause. While it may not be a violation of the ethic rules per se, it is not proper to have people who may influence the witness in the room during the questioning. Otherwise, the witness may be pressured/influenced into giving statements that aren't exactly truthful - which seems to be what happened here.
 
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#170
Her meds must have worn off. She's gone back to being angry and combative.

Her previous deposition and the interview with the Martins' attorney are completely destroying even the slightest credibility she might have.
 
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utvolpj said:
not great for your star witness

George Zimmerman Witness Can't Read Letter She 'Wrote' About Shooting - ABC News
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Wow. The contents of that letter certainly conflict with other testimony about Trayvon Martin's location when the fight started. She already testified that Martin was next to the place where he was staying. That is some distance from the location other witnesses testified the fight started. When the letter she signed but could not read was read to her, she looked down with a lost expression on her face.
 
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Vol Main said:
Wow. The contents of that letter certainly conflict with the testimony she just gave, about Trayvon Martin's location when the fight started, that is next to the place where he was staying. That is some distance from the location other witnesses testified the fight started. When the letter she signed but could not read was read to her, she looked down with a lost expression on her face.
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And another racist. You just don't understand her.
 
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