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Volwark said:
That one is kinda 50/50. On one hand, he is less a dick about that sort of thing than somebody like Hogan, HBK, or Hart. He's got his can handed to him by Lesnar, and has put guys like Punk and Bryan over in matches.

On the other hand - and this is one of my beefs with Cena - he could probably stand to have a little more Jericho or Rock in him, and lose to guys like Wyatt or Rusev (presuming he beats Rusev at WM) more often. That could be more on Vince for trying to protect him tho.
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I think the bolded is the key. And it's worth noting that Cena is reportedly ready to step out and start being more of an actor and do things non-WWE related. According to the rumors about this, WWE brass isn't happy, and it's why they started painting him as the "old veteran" in this Rusev feud. People love to point out that Rock and Jericho put people over. But it's because they really are old. Cena is just 37. He's just leaving his prime as a wrestler. No great was putting people over in their prime like Cena has. For the Rock and Jericho, putting people over is something that has just started happening recently in terms of their entire wrestling career.
 
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volfanbill said:
For the Rock and Jericho, putting people over is something that has just started happening recently in terms of their entire wrestling career.
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Rock has been putting people over longer than that. I don't know of any top guy that has a worse WM record than him.
 
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Volwark said:
Rock has been putting people over longer than that. I don't know of any top guy that has a worse WM record than him.
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The Rock is 5-5. Cena is 8-3. Hogan was 8-3-1. Austin 5-2. Michaels 6-11. Savage is 7-4, Orton 4-7. Bret Hart was 8-6. Brock is 2-2. HHH is 8-10.

Fwiw, the Rock was 4-4 in his primo years, with two losses early in his career to Austin, a loss as part of Rock and Sock and a loss in a 4 way elimination match. The only person he's ever "put over" was when he lost to Cena after beating him the year before.
 
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I'm not sure early what Michael's Wrestlemania opponents were but for someone who has had a little bit of a rap for not doing the job, that's a pretty significant amount of losses. And a **** load of those matches was with HBK as a face.
 
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volfanbill said:
I think the bolded is the key. And it's worth noting that Cena is reportedly ready to step out and start being more of an actor and do things non-WWE related. According to the rumors about this, WWE brass isn't happy, and it's why they started painting him as the "old veteran" in this Rusev feud. People love to point out that Rock and Jericho put people over. But it's because they really are old. Cena is just 37. He's just leaving his prime as a wrestler. No great was putting people over in their prime like Cena has. For the Rock and Jericho, putting people over is something that has just started happening recently in terms of their entire wrestling career.
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Lol Almost Jerichos whole career is putting people over. Even at times he was clearly the best thing going more times than not he put others over.
 
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Jericho has been a part timer for like a decade. Prior to that, he was as over as anyone. He was the first unified champion. Outside of Brock, no part timer is going to get a lot of wins.
 
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Lana and Rusev are now Tennessee-Russians by way of Bulgaria in Rusev's case. They apparently bought a house together in Nashville.

Still loathe this storyline.
 
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volfanbill said:
Jericho has been a part timer for like a decade. Prior to that, he was as over as anyone. He was the first unified champion. Outside of Brock, no part timer is going to get a lot of wins.
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Best entrance ever was Jericho's interruption of The Rock.
(Second best was Tazz and Kurt Angle.)

I don't know many people who would disagree that Jericho was one of the best on the mic and promos we've ever seen, and he could go in the ring. In his prime he was about as good as it gets.
 
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Daloth said:
Best entrance ever was Jericho's interruption of The Rock.
(Second best was Tazz and Kurt Angle.)

I don't know many people who would disagree that Jericho was one of the best on the mic and promos we've ever seen, and he could go in the ring. In his prime he was about as good as it gets.
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That's one of the best entrances ever but . . . Jericho got absolutely buried by Rock on his first night in the company. Yet, Jericho was so good that it didn't even matter.
 
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Daloth said:
Best entrance ever was Jericho's interruption of The Rock.
(Second best was Tazz and Kurt Angle.)

I don't know many people who would disagree that Jericho was one of the best on the mic and promos we've ever seen, and he could go in the ring. In his prime he was about as good as it gets.
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Jericho is my second all time behind Sting. He was so good in his prime, it's why he can show up when and how he wants. He just likes to get in the ring and has true passion for the sport. It's why he puts so many over now. More reason to like him. I dare say no one could play the perfect heel and perfect face like Jericho could.

His feud with Stephanie was fantastic.
 
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Jericho's mastery of putting people over really dates back to the early 00's. Guy has been a pro at it for a while now. Also better on the mic and in the ring than Cena.
 
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As BnB would say, "I'm afraid I've got some bad news." You can no longer stream WWE Network on more than 1 device at a time.
 
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volfanbill said:
Lana and Rusev are now Tennessee-Russians by way of Bulgaria in Rusev's case. They apparently bought a house together in Nashville.
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WWE Stars Lana and Rusev Buy House Together

WWE stars Rusev and Lana like to live dangerously -- the NOT married or engaged couple just signed on the dotted line to buy a house together after dating for less than 2 years.

Wrestling fans know Lana is Rusev's manager in the ring -- but now they're finally confirming rumors they're dating ... and it must be serious since they purchased a 4 bedroom, 4 bathroom home in Nashville.

It's a pretty sweet deal -- 11.56 acres with a pond, hot tub, basketball court and more in Music City ... all for $644K. We're told they chose Nashville because it's easier for them to travel from the middle of the country.

Now, the reality check ... we're told Rusev and Lana have been living together for over a year, but putting their names on the title of a house -- BEFORE getting married -- is definitely next level.

Read more: WWE Stars Lana and Rusev -- In Mother Russia We Buy House Together ... Before Marriage | TMZ.com
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