Will this finally settle the Manning - Brady debate?

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Brady is the better qb, obviously, but not the better person, obviously. (I didn't say perfect) I'd rather be a better person.
 
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volfannbama said:
So you agree and just want to debate it? Okay, cool
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I’ll say this to, you can say what you want but there are two rings Brady should not have... I mean the Seahawks had that game won, all they had to do was run the ball from the half yard line with the best rb in the league that year and it’s game, it wasn’t even like it was 4th down, it was second!!! There is zero percent chance with 3 shots from the half yard line beast mode doesn’t get it in... was Brady responsibly for Carroll going full you know what? Then the falcons had the game wrapped up as well but decided for some reason not to just run the ball!!! I don’t know New England is kind of like bama for some reason when teams have them on the ropes they just decide to hand it back to them... hell Peyton could have another super bowl win or two if teams just decided to literally hand them back the game when they were on the ropes, unfortunately that never happened... that’s really just more of a rant than an argument about who the GOAT is.... just irritates me that things always seem to work out for those guys even when they aren’t the better team sometimes.
 
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Alex10 said:
I agree with the fact that he deserves the title.. I don’t agree that he is the better QB when they were both in their prime.
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Yeah, okay. I think it's funny that we basically come to the same conclusion yet you get there by some unique intellectual dissection and assume everyone else took a stupid simpleton approach.
 
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Alex10 said:
I’ll say this to, you can say what you want but there are two rings Brady should not have... I mean the Seahawks had that game won, all they had to do was run the ball from the half yard line with the best rb in the league that year and it’s game, it wasn’t even like it was 4th down, it was second!!! There is zero percent chance with 3 shots from the half yard line beast mode doesn’t get it in... was Brady responsibly for Carroll going full you know what? Then the falcons had the game wrapped up as well but decided for some reason not to just run the ball!!! I don’t know New England is kind of like bama for some reason when teams have them on the ropes they just decide to hand it back to them... hell Peyton could have another super bowl win or two if teams just decided to literally hand them back the game when they were on the ropes, unfortunately that never happened... that’s really just more of a rant than an argument about who the GOAT is.... just irritates me that things always seem to work out for those guys even when they aren’t the better team sometimes.
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Lol
 
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Alex10 said:
I’ll say this to, you can say what you want but there are two rings Brady should not have... I mean the Seahawks had that game won, all they had to do was run the ball from the half yard line with the best rb in the league that year and it’s game, it wasn’t even like it was 4th down, it was second!!! There is zero percent chance with 3 shots from the half yard line beast mode doesn’t get it in... was Brady responsibly for Carroll going full you know what? Then the falcons had the game wrapped up as well but decided for some reason not to just run the ball!!! I don’t know New England is kind of like bama for some reason when teams have them on the ropes they just decide to hand it back to them... hell Peyton could have another super bowl win or two if teams just decided to literally hand them back the game when they were on the ropes, unfortunately that never happened... that’s really just more of a rant than an argument about who the GOAT is.... just irritates me that things always seem to work out for those guys even when they aren’t the better team sometimes.
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If you want to play that game, the patriots could easily have won all eight Super Bowls under B&B. I mean hell the giants needed two miracle plays to win both of their SB’s against the pats.
 
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volfannbama said:
Yeah, okay. I think it's funny that we basically come to the same conclusion yet you get there by some unique intellectual dissection and assume everyone else took a stupid simpleton approach.
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Nope, we reach the same conclusion about one thing ( he deserves the title) but not the other ( he isn’t the better QB) it’s that simple
 
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Alex10 said:
Saban wasn’t a great coach at Michigan state either.
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Actually he did about as good a job as possible given the sanctions that MSU got hit with after his first season. He had them at 10 wins his last season there and was doing a terrific job recruiting. He would hade had them as a consistent top 10-15 team, which Is pretty damn good for Michigan st.
 
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Boston Vol said:
If you want to play that game, the patriots could easily have won all eight Super Bowls under B&B. I mean hell the giants needed two miracle plays to win both of their SB’s against the pats.
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Making miracle or great plays isn’t the same to me as having a team by the nuts and literally blowing it by making an absolutely absurd call that lets them off the hook...at least if you come up with a miracle play in a sense you earned it, patriots didn’t earn that win against the Seahawks, they were bailed out. But to an extent your right, it’s all hypothetical so doesn’t really matter.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
His defenses keep playing at that level as well.
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Missed all those pick sixes that won the games. Why didn’t Belichick’s defenses result in at least a .500 overall record before Brady? If they were pitching shutouts all these years why doesn’t the scoreboard reflect that?
 
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Alex10 said:
Making miracle or great plays isn’t the same to me as having a team by the nuts and literally blowing it by making an absolutely absurd call that lets them off the hook...at least if you come up with a miracle play in a sense you earned it, patriots didn’t earn that win against the Seahawks, they were bailed out. But to an extent your right, it’s all hypothetical so doesn’t really matter.
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They didn’t earn the win? Lol. They were down 27-14 in the fourth quarter and put together two, length of the field touchdown drives, against one of the greatest defenses in nfl history. I think that qualifies as “earning it.”
 
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Alex10 said:
Nope, we reach the same conclusion about one thing ( he deserves the title) but not the other ( he isn’t the better QB) it’s that simple
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So you believe a person that isnt the best deserves to be called the best? Lol, yeah ok
 
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