Why shouldn't College Coaches make the "Big Bucks"?

#52
#52
Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
So?
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You also just turned college football into a second rate version of the NFL. Why would anyone bother to watch a cheap ripoff on Saturday, when the real thing is on 24 hours later? Also, coaches, ADs, and presidents would have no part of that. You think any coach wants to play a top 25 opponent every week? No way.
 
#53
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hatvol96 said:
You just killed the golden goose. The biggest financial boon to the NCAA and member institutions is the D-I basketball tournament and the billion dollar TV contract attached to it. Without the Gonzagas, George Masons, and St. Joe's of the world CBS wouldn't pay one tenth of that for the rights.
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Basketball is a more even playing field that football. 15 scholarships vs 85 in football. You will have more than 30 schools able to compete in basketball than football.

Gotta do better than that...
 
#54
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Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
Basketball is a more even playing field that football. 15 scholarships vs 85 in football. You will have more than 30 schools able to compete in basketball than football.

Gotta do better than that...
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no because those schools still don't make money.. you killed them because they don't make the money to pay their players.
 
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the difference in money a football school makes compared to a basketball school isn't remotely close
 
#57
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Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
Basketball is a more even playing field that football. 15 scholarships vs 85 in football. You will have more than 30 schools able to compete in basketball than football.

Gotta do better than that...
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Try running college athletics minus about 900 million dollars over the next decade. When you find the money from that shortfall, I'll think about responding further.
 
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hatvol96 said:
You also just turned college football into a second rate version of the NFL. Why would anyone bother to watch a cheap ripoff on Saturday, when the real thing is on 24 hours later? Also, coaches, ADs, and presidents would have no part of that. You think any coach wants to play a top 25 opponent every week? No way.
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Again, this kinda hits around the topic that you brought up about the NFL and NBA not having a minor league system. Instead, they have a free minor league system with the NCAA.

It's no way anybody can argue that most schools aren't making any money off of these athletes, else you would have seen more schools leave division I level, not eneter Div-I in the last 10 years. Marshall, Troy St, Central Florida, Connecticut, and a few more have all jumped up in levels... not many (if any) have left.
 
#60
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sorry... but i'm not about to delve back into my sports management studies at 1:15 on a Saturday morning when school is not even in session.... i'll get them to you in time though.
 
#61
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Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
Again, this kinda hits around the topic that you brought up about the NFL and NBA not having a minor league system. Instead, they have a free minor league system with the NCAA.

It's no way anybody can argue that most schools aren't making any money off of these athletes, else you would have seen more schools leave division I level, not eneter Div-I in the last 10 years. Marshall, Troy St, Central Florida, Connecticut, and a few more have all jumped up in levels... not many (if any) have left.
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most don't leave because of the idea that it promotes the university. but the bottom line is they go broke promoting the university this way.
 
#62
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volfanbill said:
the difference in money a football school makes compared to a basketball school isn't remotely close
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Why are you defending the big universities that have major network contracts, licensing deals with Nike/Adiddas/etc, and not the poor student athletes that are being exploited?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Try running college athletics minus about 900 million dollars over the next decade. When you find the money from that shortfall, I'll think about responding further.
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Ask yourself how it even got to $900 million. When you answer that question, then I'll respond to you further.
 
#65
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Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
Why are you defending the big universities that have major network contracts, licensing deals with Nike/Adiddas/etc, and not the poor student athletes that are being exploited?
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i'm just stating you're painting an impossible picture. Very very few schools could pay their star players in their big time sports. the money they make off those players goes to help other athletes. By having Robert Meachem or Erik Ainge be exploited by the Tennessee Volunteers, All-American UT volleyball player Sarah Blum gets a chance to pursue her athletic endeavors. Phil gets a lot of money i'll give you, but for the most part, all that money only helps other athletes who don't even have the chance to be exploited but do deserve the chance to play. If Meachem got paid, Blum wouldn't get a chance. Likewise, neither would Tyler Devault, of the men's cross country team because his program would have been cut with the volleyball team for Title IX compliancy
 
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Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
Ask yourself how it even got to $900 million. When you answer that question, then I'll respond to you further.
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It got to $900 mil because people watch, the same reason any television property is valuable. Now, show me how that money gets recaptured in your new superconference.
 
#67
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hatvol96 said:
That's a whole different issue, built around the NCAAs idiotic definition of amateurism. I won't go into my standard rant about the NCAA being slighly less effectual in it's job than Lucille Ball was working in the candy factory.
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:eek:lol:
 
#68
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Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
Why are you defending the big universities that have major network contracts, licensing deals with Nike/Adiddas/etc, and not the poor student athletes that are being exploited?
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Teen prostitutes-Exploited.
Children in pornography-Exploited.
Sweatshop workers-Exploited.
Migrant farm workers-Exploited.
College Athletes-Possibly not compensated commensurate with their total monetary value. Not exploited.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Teen prostitutes-Exploited.
Children in pornography-Exploited.
Sweatshop workers-Exploited.
Migrant farm workers-Exploited.
College Athletes-Possibly not compensated commensurate with their total monetary value. Not exploited.
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while i never would have quite looked at it in that light, i have to agree with this statement
 
#70
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hatvol96 said:
Teen prostitutes-Exploited.
Children in pornography-Exploited.
Sweatshop workers-Exploited.
Migrant farm workers-Exploited.
College Athletes-Possibly not compensated commensurate with their total monetary value. Not exploited.
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If everyone is able to profit off of your labor except you (the student athlete) then you are being exploited/used/ whatever...

The soccer player is profiting off of you. The volleyball player. The cross country runner. The football coach. The general scholarship fund. The buildings built on campus. You name it... it is OK for everyone to turn profit off of your labor. But don't you athletes try and take any endorsement money... or heaven forbid a "booster" gives you a $100 hand shake...
 
#71
#71
The truth of the matter is you can never blame a gifted player of any college sport football,basketball,etc., to leave school early to go make his fortune.
 
#72
#72
The Boys and Girls Club makes money by charging parents money to attend their kids basketball games. what does that mean?
 
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so TVA, you are ok with a world of about 40 different football teams battling it out year after year for D1 supremacy and the end of D1 basketball. not to mention the complete end of all other collegiate sports. that's not a world i want
 
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