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[tnraider1]

Our OL was awful last year, we couldn't run the ball. All off season we questioned the line. One game against a bad BG dline and suddenly it's our team strength? Our WR core is the most talented and deep position on our team. OU secondary is awful.. We can throw the ball around. There's a reason we're WRU.

So you don't think the offensive line improved much? All the talk I've heard makes them out to be tons better than last year. Guess I'm just more impressed by Hurd than the wideouts. They didn't show much last year against OUr horrible secondary. Stats don't always tell the whole story either. We have some solid DBs, but our safeties last year were both freshmen. Sanchez is on a few watch lists and he's a ball hawk. The other corner is a little unproven as well. We'll know more about them after Saturday.

 

[led0321]

Ha, you didn't upset me at all. Without looking at other teams stat books, I think it's fair too assume most players put up bigger stats against lesser foes. I mean Hurd and Kamara aren't going to each run for over 100 every week.

They will this week

 

[VonVol]

So you don't think the offensive line improved much? All the talk I've heard makes them out to be tons better than last year. Guess I'm just more impressed by Hurd than the wideouts. They didn't show much last year against OUr horrible secondary. Stats don't always tell the whole story either. We have some solid DBs, but our safeties last year were both freshmen. Sanchez is on a few watch lists and he's a ball hawk. The other corner is a little unproven as well. We'll know more about them after Saturday.

You're right that our receivers didn't show much last year. But how could they have? Worley was getting pummeled. I was actually kind of shocked when I saw he had over 200 yards passing. It sure felt like a lot less.

 

[615vols]

So you don't think the offensive line improved much? All the talk I've heard makes them out to be tons better than last year. Guess I'm just more impressed by Hurd than the wideouts. They didn't show much last year against OUr horrible secondary. Stats don't always tell the whole story either. We have some solid DBs, but our safeties last year were both freshmen. Sanchez is on a few watch lists and he's a ball hawk. The other corner is a little unproven as well. We'll know more about them after Saturday.

Oline i think is improved simply with the move of thomas from rt back to center and plugging in kendrick at tackle.
Also, at wr last year pig howard was out, smith got injured in the first half i believe, and our te wolf was out. Not the same wrs you'll see Saturday.

 

[VonVol]

Oline i think is improved simply with the move of thomas from rt back to center and plugging in kendrick at tackle.
Also, at wr last year pig howard was out, smith got injured in the first half i believe, and our te wolf was out. Not the same wrs you'll see Saturday.

The entire offense is different. I keep seeing "you couldn't do this or that against us last year". And they aren't wrong. But we couldn't do much against anyone last year with Worley at QB. OK kicked our butts, regardless of what some say about the score being worse than the game. I don't buy that. The score was the score. But we did do some things against them better than we did others.

We had 112 rushing yards against them. Not an impressive number by any means. But we had 28 yards against UF and MISS combined. Enter Dobbs and 181 rushing yards against Alabama.

I'm not saying we win. I'll have to see it to believe it. But what happened last year is irrelevant in my mind. Different teams, different setting. Here's to a great game.

 

[Midnight Toker]

How do we already know they can run?

I think we've seen what they can do, there's lots of highlight videos on the OU running backs.

Exactly what I was thinking? Last years OL is gone like the wind. Maybe they will succeed in looking like a quality line, but my guess is their inexperience will get exposed early and often.

They have two freshmen starting, being backed up and supplemented by older more experienced guys who maybe arent as talented. Will there be growing pains? Yes. I recognize the result of last week and it is a bit of a concern but not a huge deal. The pass was working, the defense wasnt coming off the run and dared them to beat 'em with the pass, so they did. Tenn can try that too, and they could stop the run but wont do them any good if they go and give up another 400 through the air. Akron had no hope to win and played desperate ball and stunted the Dline to confuse the noobs on the Oline. It had an effect in the run game, and it's something they are practicing for now. Anyway I dont forsee Tenn playing the same game because theyre good enough to beat OU when akron wasnt. Akron was willing to be shredded by Mayfield, and I since Tenn is good enough to win, I would think they are going to try to defend the pass and you cant do that very well with 8 stacked in the box all night like akron. So we'll see. They say freshmen do the most growing up from game 1 to game 2. Anyway, that's just the line, you open just small seam for the likes of Perine and Mixon and it's a whole different ball game..We shall see! I would be happy to see Tenn stack 8 all day long and make Mayfield throw to beat 'em.

 

[tnraider1]

You're right that our receivers didn't show much last year. But how could they have? Worley was getting pummeled. I was actually kind of shocked when I saw he had over 200 yards passing. It sure felt like a lot less.

Well, if we get into a passing shootout type game, that'll be fine with me. It tends to keep the crowd at bay. Up one minute, down the next takes some of the energy out of the fans and the defenses.

 

[tnraider1]

Oline i think is improved simply with the move of thomas from rt back to center and plugging in kendrick at tackle.
Also, at wr last year pig howard was out, smith got injured in the first half i believe, and our te wolf was out. Not the same wrs you'll see Saturday.

Both teams have a lot of firepower on offense. This might be one of those games where the last team to make a mistake loses. Gives me chills to think a 48-45 type game is in the works.

 

[tnraider1]

They will this week

Only if they plan on running it 60 times.

 

['Boro-vol]

Only if they plan on running it 60 times.

Silly assertion. But keep thinking that.

I also hope Stoops and Co. underestimates the Vols passing game as much as the fans seem to. I've expressed my perceived knocks on Dobbs in the past, but he showed me something last week in his limited passing attack. His accuracy has improved downfield, and he gets his favorite target back tomorrow. I think we may lean on the passing game a little more heavily, which will open up the run game to eat clock. We'll see....but I would think a shoot-out would be the last thing OU wants with a new QB and system. That plays right into our pass rush capabilities.

 

[Midnight Toker]

Silly assertion. But keep thinking that.

I also hope Stoops and Co. underestimates the Vols passing game as much as the fans seem to. I've expressed my perceived knocks on Dobbs in the past, but he showed me something last week in his limited passing attack. His accuracy has improved downfield, and he gets his favorite target back tomorrow. I think we may lean on the passing game a little more heavily, which will open up the run game to eat clock. We'll see....but I would think a shoot-out would be the last thing OU wants with a new QB and system. That plays right into our pass rush capabilities.

I think this would really play to the strength of the OU offense and defense as well. Pass rushing is a thing OU gets after, so yeah that would be pretty exciting to watch!

 

['Boro-vol]

I think this would really play to the strength of the OU offense and defense as well. Pass rushing is a thing OU gets after, so yeah that would be pretty exciting to watch!

We'll see. We have an effective litle pass rush duo ourselves....but whatever. Again, I hope your coaching staff feels the same way about our passing game and pass defense. I really do.

 

[Midnight Toker]

We'll see. We have an effective litle pass rush duo ourselves....but whatever. Again, I hope your coaching staff feels the same way about our passing game and pass defense. I really do.

Just what "same way" do you refer to? What way am I thinking about your passing game and pass defense, based on my previous post? I simply said a shootout would be fun to watch, and it also plays into the strengths that OU has on offense and defense. Just like it does you.

You say OU doesnt want a shootout because that would play in the favor of what Tenn is good at: pass rush on D. OKay, but how does having a good pash rush benefit Tenn but OU, also having a good pash rush, the same shoot out type of game wont benefit them in the same way? Just trying to figure out why the UT pass rush will have a good day but it seems you insinuate the OU pash rush wont be effective. If it's a shootout, pass rush will be a huge component of the game for both teams, and theyre both good at it.

As far as your secondary goes, yah, well, they have a lot to prove and BG will not be the best passing O you see all year. I think OU will be able to pass on your D, maybe not 400 yards but they'll put down some nice yardage. Part of my confidence is knowing who your secondary coach is.

 

[VolBalla2014]

I don't think Mixon and Perrone are as good as Marshawn Lynch and Justin Forsett 😎. This game is just like cal 06

 

[Volview]

Only if they plan on running it 60 times.

Both teams may have to run 60 times...60% chance of rain with Thunderstorms. I would bet on rain and lighting delays. (This is going to screw up the checkerboard)

 

['Boro-vol]

Just what "same way" do you refer to? What way am I thinking about your passing game and pass defense, based on my previous post? I simply said a shootout would be fun to watch, and it also plays into the strengths that OU has on offense and defense. Just like it does you.

You say OU doesnt want a shootout because that would play in the favor of what Tenn is good at: pass rush on D. OKay, but how does having a good pash rush benefit Tenn but OU, also having a good pash rush, the same shoot out type of game wont benefit them in the same way? Just trying to figure out why the UT pass rush will have a good day but it seems you insinuate the OU pash rush wont be effective. If it's a shootout, pass rush will be a huge component of the game for both teams, and theyre both good at it.

Sorry if I offended you...I view all of the Sooner posters pretty much the same way at this point. I can't say for sure whether you've personally been trolling, but many have and I view you all through the same filter. There seems to be very little respect for any aspect of our game coming from your posters.

By "the same way" I was referencing the way many Sooner posters are overlooking and down playing the effectiveness of our passing game since the emergence of Josh Dobbs as our QB. I really hope your coaching staff and defense disregards this aspect of our game, and sells out to stop the run. That's the surest way to open up our run game in the second half...when it can be most effective.

I'm confident your pass rush has the attention of our coaching staff after last year. Dobbs won't be standing there waiting to be tackled like Worley did.

All of this is conjecture at this point, fan-speak. Neither you nor I know what will happen tomorrow night. That's why the game gets played. Enjoy the game.

 

[tim]

Both teams may have to run 60 times...60% chance of rain with Thunderstorms. I would bet on rain and lighting delays. (This is going to screw up the checkerboard)

Add Dobbs to that equation in obvious passing downs and watch him run all day

 

['Boro-vol]

Add Dobbs to that equation in obvious passing downs and watch him run all day

This game shapes up for Dobbs to be the leading rusher....wouldn't be surprised to see it happen.

 

[UTVolinExile]

As far as your secondary goes, yah, well, they have a lot to prove and BG will not be the best passing O you see all year.

Gotta disagree with this. The only team we play with even close to the same level passing attack as BG is OU, and I don't think even you would say that Akron is an accurate test of how good your passing can be.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Bottom line is Vegas makes a living knowing about what to expect at game time. They see it even more or less. Objective folks nationwide do also. Will be a great game. Both teams have 2 NFL backs on their rosters. Both have good signal callers. Both defenses have something to prove. 2hat a great setup for a ballgame.

To the okie posters with class like owenfi3lddreams...glad to have you. To the trolls...you suck. GOVOLS. WIN EM ALL.

 

[flatiron]

and a junior who won Akron's award for best sophomore.

Wouldn't that be like being named the "Skinniest Kid at Fat Camp"?

 

[tnraider1]

Silly assertion. But keep thinking that.

I also hope Stoops and Co. underestimates the Vols passing game as much as the fans seem to. I've expressed my perceived knocks on Dobbs in the past, but he showed me something last week in his limited passing attack. His accuracy has improved downfield, and he gets his favorite target back tomorrow. I think we may lean on the passing game a little more heavily, which will open up the run game to eat clock. We'll see....but I would think a shoot-out would be the last thing OU wants with a new QB and system. That plays right into our pass rush capabilities.

I'm just saying OUr run defense is going to be stout. A few big runs will be had due to OUr agressiveness and your running backs abilities, but I'd be shocked if we give up 250+ on the ground. I actually think a shootout favors OU, even with the new offensive line. Pass blocking is easier than run blocking and Perine is great at helping to neutralize the DEs. Dobbs was very accurate last week, even on throws 20+ yards downfield, but he'll have someone in his face this week when he's doing it. We'll have to see how he does under pressure.

 

['Boro-vol]

I'm just saying OUr run defense is going to be stout. A few big runs will be had due to OUr agressiveness and your running backs abilities, but I'd be shocked if we give up 250+ on the ground. I actually think a shootout favors OU, even with the new offensive line. Pass blocking is easier than run blocking and Perine is great at helping to neutralize the DEs. Dobbs was very accurate last week, even on throws 20+ yards downfield, but he'll have someone in his face this week when he's doing it. We'll have to see how he does under pressure.

Under pressure Dobb's has the ability to get downfield that Worley did not. I believe he has the opportunity to be our leading rusher tomorrow. Pick your poison....you can't stop them all.

 

[Rudy123]

OU's run game? Or lack of it against Akron. 100 yards total rushing and 3ypc.
They were lackluster against Akron and they have a handful of games started amongst their oline. This is not dismissing they have 2 excellent backs. The fact they do and still got them involved so little adds to the question.

From the OU prespective, they will say, "Well, U.T. had to fight all the way to the forth quarter to finally put BGSU away."
"If U.T. can't put BGSU away, in what is considered a home game, then we should have no issue with U.T."

 

[Midnight Toker]

Sorry if I offended you...I view all of the Sooner posters pretty much the same way at this point. I can't say for sure whether you've personally been trolling, but many have and I view you all through the same filter. There seems to be very little respect for any aspect of our game coming from your posters.

By "the same way" I was referencing the way many Sooner posters are overlooking and down playing the effectiveness of our passing game since the emergence of Josh Dobbs as our QB. I really hope your coaching staff and defense disregards this aspect of our game, and sells out to stop the run. That's the surest way to open up our run game in the second half...when it can be most effective.

I'm confident your pass rush has the attention of our coaching staff after last year. Dobbs won't be standing there waiting to be tackled like Worley did.

All of this is conjecture at this point, fan-speak. Neither you nor I know what will happen tomorrow night. That's why the game gets played. Enjoy the game.

LOL offended, come on meow. I thought Perhaps you were misunderstanding my statements that lead to your comments. No worries, but i was just trying to figure it out is all.

I recognize and respect UT, I just think OU is better, they were better last year and are better this year, that's all. It's not like im saying something crazy. Last year was last year, true, but many of those same players are playing this year too. Yes you have some new guys on offense, so do we, most of our best play makers on offense now were not on the team last year. Did your defense improve significantly from when they gave 34 up to a less talented and less capable offense than OU has this year? :dunno:

I dont know what other posters said or think, just know me. I'm sure Dobbs is a wonderful qb, and the OU defensive staff is preparing for him differently than they did with Worley. It's not as if Dobbs is a world beater- I saw some of the performances were pretty decent, some were meh. It should be mentioned his best games were against the worst opponents he faced; usc, kentucky, iowa. And managed to look uuuuugly against vandy. So if you get vandy Dobbs, expect a long night. If you get kentucky or usc Dobbs, maybe a better night. Guess we'll see!

Big 12 has lots of qbs, certainly nothing new defending a qb will go off on you, looking forward to it.