Why I Can't Afford to Vote Democrat

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NorthDallas40 said:
Wouldn’t that require some form of skills on these revolutionists part? And aren’t they revolting because they don’t have any skills to better themselves?

Yeah if they’re too lazy to better themselves I’m not gonna worry too much about them making effort to try and better themselves.
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President Bernie will probably have the same compassion and empathy for you and your complaints about your increased tax burden.
 
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utvolpj said:
Do those people not exist in your world? Should any system simply ignore the 5000 homeless school children in my county?

Admitting the "up from your bootstraps" mentality completely ignores huge parts of an underserved population isn't victimhood. It's just willing to be honest that not all start from the same place. When a child is hungry and sleeps in a car or day motel they won't perform as well as others. Why hold them to the same initial standard as those others?
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Thats about 0.007% of the total children in the USA. While I find it abhorrent that kids are homeless in the USA, its not that big of a problem in the grand scheme of things.

The reality is that their parents are probably unfit to have kids...and if we had free for all abortions it wouldnt be an issue. But then again those kids wouldn't exist which isn't really fair to them.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Thats about 0.007% of the total children in the USA. While I find it abhorrent that kids are homeless in the USA, its not that big of a problem in the grand scheme of things.

The reality is that their parents are probably unfit to have kids...and if we had free for all abortions it wouldnt be an issue. But then again those kids wouldn't exist which isn't really fair to them.
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That's one Florida county not country.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
President Bernie will probably have the same compassion and empathy for you and your complaints about your increased tax burden.
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We don’t get the government we want we get the government we deserve. If we elect that socialist I guess we deserve the resulting 110% forthcoming tax rate.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
$15.00 an hour? Easy peasy for some. I worked at a manufacturing plant making $15.75 an hour. But it took me many many loyal years to get there to make that amount of $$ to feed & put clothes on my family's back. I worked OT as much as possible so my family would live as comfortable as possible. People can live on minimum wage if they take full advantage of all that's offered them.
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'Worked" is past tense. So I would really be curious to know when it was you were able to work a $15/hr job and keep you family living as comfortable as possible?
 
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Sea Ray said:
I want to devote a thread to exactly the reasons why I'm a Republican voter. I'm going to give real life specifics and for simplicity sake, narrow it down to three main financial examples. In it I'll show you how Republicans save me money and Democrats cost me money.

Simply put, voting Republican saves me thousands of dollars, not a year, but a month. You didn't read that wrong. We're talkin' 4 figures, per month. This isn't jus a few bucks. Here you go:

1) State of Ohio. Prior to John Kasich my accountant was having me put aside $1000 per quarter. Kasich re-did small business taxes and instituted what's called the Commercial Activity Tax (CAT). Simply put it works like this: Up to certain amount, small businesses pay $150 in May towards this CAT. After that we pay nothing. Zilch. I no longer have to put aside quarterly money. This saves me about $4K/yr. I now basically pay nothing in state income tax.

2) Obamacare. In December of 2008 (Republican control) my health insurance cost $487/mo with a $3K deductible. For reference sake it was $258/mo with a $1K deductible in Dec 2000. It was $215/mo in Dec of 1993 with a deductible I can't recall but that's not apples to apples because I was single at the time.

It's now $1710/mo with a $7K deductible per person, not per family. I've written a lot about health insurance here so in the interests of brevity I'll try not to repeat myself. This is far and above increases incurred in any other decade. My premiums did not go down as Obama promised...nor could I keep my doctors since companies keep dropping out of the individual market. My guess is that none of you who get your insurance from an employer experienced such as increase. That's because the costs of Obamacare were largely passed onto individuals. We (self employed) took the brunt of that hit. I get that there are winners and losers in every tax plan, but if I'm the bigtime loser, don't expect my political support. Furthermore I'm jaded as to promises from politicians. I know the reality is that bills don't often end up as they're promised so I no longer believe it when a politician like Warren or Sanders tell me that I can keep my doctor or whatever. I'm skeptical.

How do you equate how much this cost me?To be fair, I should expect my premiums to go up. I'll be generous and accept a 100% increase in about ten year's time, so let's say that this policy change is costing me $700/mo plus whatever value you want to put on the difference of $3K deductible vs $14K (two people)

Trump deregulated Obamacare so now there are more health insurance choices for me. I now can choose from some that are not Obamacare compliant. This means if I don't want a plan that includes mental health or maternity, I can buy it. But there is a catch. These plans can underwrite so if you have a pre-existing condition, you probably won't qualify. So here's what happened in December when I had to make a choice:

My existing insurance company (Anthem) sent me a letter saying that they were going to raise my premiums to $1900/mo. After going through an insurance broker, we came up with a plan where we kept my wife (who has pre-existing conditions) on Anthem, but moved my daughter and me to a non Obamacare compliant plan. My new total premiums: $1300/mo. This means a $600/mo savings due to the under the radar actions of Pres Trump. He saved me $600/mo. Thank you Mr Trump!

3) Now let's get to the Trump tax cut. I was one of the winners of it. They now give us a standard deduction of $24K (married). Our itemized deductions were $18K. That's a net plus $6K deduction. They also took away our personal exemptions. That's a minus. The tax brackets lowered our percentages, that represents a modest plus. Here's where I really benefited: Small businesses get a "pass through" deduction based upon your income. This amounted to a deduction of about $20K. Add it all up and here's the sum total: My income went up about $20K in 2018 and my taxes only went up $1.5K. My guess is that this saves me about $3.5K. My income was OK, comfortably over the SS max but not rich by any means. Thank you Mr Trump.

I could go further and say that my taxes also went up under Bill Clinton and down under GW Bush so there is a long standing pattern here.

So OK, regardless of immigration, stupids Tweets or anything else you want to throw out there, my loyalties are to Republicans because I can't afford the thousands per month that Democrat policies will cost me. I just can't and I'm sure everyone has their breaking point as to how much they're willing to fork out in order to support a political party. If Dems only cost me a hundred or so per month, I'd think about it but these examples show they're costing me well over $2K/mo. You want my vote? Quit nailing my pocketbook.

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Looks like this thread is the perfect spot to drop this off...

Gov. J.B. Pritzker proposes $42 billion state budget that promises added funding for schools, public safety if voters approve his graduated income tax in November
 
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Sea Ray said:
If my healthcare costs had only gone up $250/mo (with a reduction in my deductible) in ten yrs, I'd have absolutely no complaints. I appreciate your post and the numbers you included. It shows that most everyone took a hit but it also supports my point that the biggest hit was taken on by the self employed folks. That's a really screwed up model politically. Why put the burden of healthcare on the little guy and not the big corporations?
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If you are talking pure dollars, yeah I wasnt hit that hard compared to others. But if you look at the rate it went up it's hard to swallow that when you are starting out.

The dems were worried about the bottom 15% but didnt think about how it would hurt the next 10%. Somehow they think the only ones hurt were the super rich.

And personally I dont know why size or wealth should matter at all when it comes to cost. Is the billionaire CEO of world.com any more expensive to provide health care for than anyone else?
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Ah yes I see the missing R. In what county do you live where there are 5000 homeless kids? I seem to recall the entire estimated homeless population for the state is 30K.
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Polk. The way homeless are counted vs homeless children is different. Shared dwellings, shelters, motels, trailers, etc are all counted for kids and the number includes all who experienced homelessness during the school year.
 
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No you can't afford to vote democrat/socialist, yes we all heard correctly Bernie is going to raise taxes on anyone making over $29,000/year
 
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utvolpj said:
Polk. The way homeless are counted vs homeless children is different. Shared dwellings, shelters, motels, trailers, etc are all counted for kids and the number includes all who experienced homelessness during the school year.
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Polk county..everytime I saw a license plate with that on it in Orlando I figured they were here to deal meth or rob people.

Thay being said interesting how they count them homeless by dwelling. I remember seeing hotels full of families living in them in Orlando
 
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