Who Do We Go After from the portal?

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BruisedOrange said:
One likely problem with the above, that's beyond my Xs and Os understanding, would be the demands on the offensive line. Would an option-style mustang package require different techniques or blocking schemes?

I'm guessing that the OC would initially want to design option plays that utilize blocking schemes that the O-linemen are already practicing. But it might be far more complicated than that. I wouldn't know...
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I've heard the "Mustang" described as "time consuming" to teach. We don't have the luxury of time.

Heupel needs to find someone who can step in, execute a few core plays really well, is cool headed and can learn quickly.

Shooting for the moon in April isn't an option unless we've been working on someone and Nico leaving makes us more attractive.

Steady and heady..... like Josh Dobbs has stepped in for NFL teams. I'd sacrifice athleticism for brains.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I've heard the "Mustang" described as "time consuming" to teach. We don't have the luxury of time.

Heupel needs to find someone who can step in, execute a few core plays really well, is cool headed and can learn quickly.

Shooting for the moon in April isn't an option unless we've been working on someone and Nico leaving makes us more attractive.

Steady and heady..... like Josh Dobbs has stepped in for NFL teams. I'd sacrifice athleticism for brains.
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I may have used a technical term too generically. Just for clarity, by "Mustang" I simply mean any offense in which the QB is the primary ball carrier, with the option to pass or pitch, and taking what the defense allows rather than executing an elaborate scheme to create yardage.

The goal would be to bring in a third QB whose skillset can generate contributions immediately running a few option plays, while he is learning the Heupel offense.

I can't foresee finding anyone in the portal this late who could come in, learn the offense, and generate an SEC win if they had to play 4 quarters during the first half of the season. Well-timed bad luck just trumps any contingency.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Looking at the utsports roster, we have two QBs apparently. It doesn't even list any "no name walk on." I have no idea if anyone else played in the O&W except Merk and G-Mac.

If there's a halfway decent HS QB on campus, he might get a snap or two in Neyland in the final seconds of a 4th Q if he walks on.

In reality, we need someone. If Sellers would portal up, commit to UCF or somewhere, then flip to UT...... I wouldn't mind. Not that I'd advocate tampering and shenanigans like that.
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There will be some walk-on QB's that are not currently showing on roster. We had 5 QB's last year on hte official roster. Nico, Merck, Moore, Shuler and Damron. One quit, one graduated, one transferred to SF Austin. We will always have a walk-on on or two for scout squads and emergency contingency that will eventually show on the roster. The Damron kid had offers from KY, EKU, MTSU, ETSU, but elected to go PWO with UT. Was always too small for SEC if he would have been good enough. Should have went on with one of the more realistic offers at the time.
 
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Sports illustrated said Tennessee is doing it's due diligence on Dylan Rizk from UCF he has the talent for sure. I say bring him in have a qb battle.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
I haven't had time to read the thread, so apologies if already posted:

IF our immediate need is a plug & play QB, should the first two get injured...
and if that incoming QB is going to be well behind the others in learning the Heupel offense...

why not spend our money on a runner/passer who would excel in a simple "mustang package" option style of offense?

1) He can have immediate utility as our 2-point conversion package, so that he's contributing from game one.

2) That conversion package has to be installed anyway, so it wouldn't require practice time that wasn't already allocated for that.

3) If that conversion package were based on option reads, it would then have the flexibility to be expanded into a full set of downs package that could serve in an in-game emergency situation.

4) A player with those skills might also serve as depth at other positions, given time to learn over the course of the season.

For this approach, I'd look for a speedy, elusive option QB who's currently playing at a small-to-mid major college because he's deemed too small to take the punishment of a full career in the SEC. I think those guys are out there, and would jump at the chance to display their talents on the big stage, and earn an amount of NIL that's probably unavailable to them where they are.
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In that case just go get the QB of the day from Mount Union or Wisconsin Whitewater.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
One likely problem with the above, that's beyond my Xs and Os understanding, would be the demands on the offensive line. Would an option-style mustang package require different techniques or blocking schemes?

I'm guessing that the OC would initially want to design option plays that utilize blocking schemes that the O-linemen are already practicing. But it might be far more complicated than that. I wouldn't know...
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Not necessarily. Guard may pull a little more often. But, less drop back pass protection.
 
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B81 said:
Notre dame, Ohio st, and Michigan all have crowded qb rooms. Someone has to go.
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Yeah but one year starting at any of those doth a pro career make. If I was at a top 10 blueblood, and new the senior year was mine, I'd pay my dues for that one season.
 
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VOLumeS said:
Sports illustrated said Tennessee is doing it's due diligence on Dylan Rizk from UCF he has the talent for sure. I say bring him in have a qb battle.
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I was looking at the kid, Byrum Brown, at USF.

People might bristle at stealing from Golesh but the guy would come in with a good grasp of Heupel's offense since Golesh runs a similar version.
 
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Maverick McIvor would have been a good get for a serviceable backup, but I see he signed for his last year with WKU. Texas Tech commit. Followed the DC to ACU in FCS. Posted over 8000 yards passing in two seasons there and degreed out. Led ACU to first ever FCS level playoff. Ranked top 4 FCS QB's during his ACU time.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I was looking at the kid, Byrum Brown, at USF.

People might bristle at stealing from Golesh but the guy would come in with a good grasp of Heupel's offense since Golesh runs a similar version.
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I just don't see us "stealing" anybody as the University tends to take a more conservative approach.
 
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GVF said:
Yeah but one year starting at any of those doth a pro career make. If I was at a top 10 blueblood, and new the senior year was mine, I'd pay my dues for that one season.
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I agree, but all three competitions seem to be favoring the younger players on the eoster. If that is the case, the older players may not get that year.
 
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If you're just looking for roster insurance, there are still some serviceable upperclassmen in the portal already. No one you'd sign to compete for the gig, but if your goal is to fill the roster back up behind Merk & Mac, then there are options.
 
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GVF said:
Yeah but one year starting at any of those doth a pro career make. If I was at a top 10 blueblood, and new the senior year was mine, I'd pay my dues for that one season.
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I suspect Joe Burrow, a nearly hometown Ohio boy, and Quinn Ewers could've stayed at Ohio State and stood a great chance of starting as a senior, if not before, but that's not how the really elite guys seem to see it these days.

Elite QBs kind of write their own legacy. Caleb Williams would've started at OU easily and USC was arguably a weaker school in a weaker P-5 then? conference. He did okay.
 
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We are probably going to poach someone elses starter......maybe the OPEN sign with money and SEC opportunity will shake the branches and some will start to shake out in the Spring Portal.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I've heard the "Mustang" described as "time consuming" to teach. We don't have the luxury of time.

Heupel needs to find someone who can step in, execute a few core plays really well, is cool headed and can learn quickly.

Shooting for the moon in April isn't an option unless we've been working on someone and Nico leaving makes us more attractive.

Steady and heady..... like Josh Dobbs has stepped in for NFL teams. I'd sacrifice athleticism for brains.
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100%, whoever it is doesnt have to be a 6'6 gunslinger, go find somebody who processes fast and has a little moxy to them like a Kellen Moore or Heupel himself in college lol. Or someone like Pavia, crafty and gritty
 
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northknoxvol said:
We are probably going to poach someone elses starter......maybe the OPEN sign with money and SEC opportunity will shake the branches and some will start to shake out in the Spring Portal.
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Hoping for a blue-collar guy. Basically, the opposite of Nico. Give me Haynes King or Kyle Walljasper.
 
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