White supremacist mows down mosque in NZ

[evillawyer]

No they are not. They can't even carry for self defense in that country. They also have to get a license to own a gun.

Your baseline though is the US, which is basically the wild west when it comes to guns.

 

[Vol8188]

I'm not saying Trump is THE reason for this. He is, however, doing his part to normalize and legitimize attitudes of hate and disgust for the "other." That is making these loons feel emboldened and they're coming out of the woodwork all over the world.

Your side doesn’t normalize hate and disgust?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Anti Israeli sentiment is an undeniable part of your side. Does your side hold any responsible for attacks on Jews, or is the entire premise that this has anything to do with Trump merely absurd?

Yes, every missile that is lobbed toward Israel falls squarely on the shoulders of the democrats.

 

[joevol33]

I'm not saying Trump is THE reason for this. He is, however, doing his part to normalize and legitimize attitudes of hate and disgust for the "other." That is making these loons feel emboldened and they're coming out of the woodwork all over the world.

You claim he normalizes hate towards Muslim, what in the crap do you call what they feel towards us? How many videos are there of them killing every freaking American they can get their hands on? But not once have you been in thread and condemned one of them, but here you are again when it's a white terrorist. Hypocritical at its best.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Your baseline though is the US, which is basically the wild west when it comes to guns.

What real point is there for owning a gun if you cannot defend yourself from tyranny or harm from another? It's not only to hunt.

 

[McDad]

Yeah I don’t think you can. That’s why I thought it was interesting.

It seems like, after the fact, you can look and it seems obvious, but I bet I could open the Ilhan Omar thread and find at least two posts about Muslims on the first page that seem vaguely paranoid. I don’t automatically assume that the poster is about to go shoot up a mosque. If I read those same posts after the fact, would I feel like “damn I should have seen this coming?” I think I would feel that way but looking at it from this side of the glass that seems totally irrational.

I think the fact of the event greatly colors our perception of the individual.

There's a reason the cliche, "hindsight is 20/20," exists.

 

[Vol8188]

Yes, every missile that is lobbed toward Israel falls squarely on the shoulders of the democrats.

Let’s not forget the Jewish men beaten in the streets of NY. Which publications have admitted to not wanting to cover because the perps weren’t white

 

[McDad]

I'm not saying Trump is THE reason for this. He is, however, doing his part to normalize and legitimize attitudes of hate and disgust for the "other." That is making these loons feel emboldened and they're coming out of the woodwork all over the world.

But he isn't. It is your perception he is. That perception is reinforced by the media you consume.

 

[Mick]

Did you actually read any of this? You can’t even purchase a gun without a special government license. Even then you can’t carry it in public nor can you own what they call a military style rifle.

Tell me, what is missing from their gun laws that makes them too “lax”?

Does anyone know how the guns were acquired by a foreigner?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

But he isn't. It is your perception he is. That perception is reinforced by the media you consume.

No, he actually is or was. Recently, I have not seen him say and do things that would add to the problem.

 

[Vol8188]

Does anyone know how the guns were acquired by a foreigner?

They don’t have a border wall. Maybe they walked in

 

[InVOLuntary]

That sounds very subjective. What makes the gun laws of a country that requires any gun to be registered?

Their gun laws are lax because they are allowed to own them.

 

[FLVOL_79]

The video of the attack was pretty bad. Not the worst thing ive seen on the internet though. Those rape and beheadings in Morocco got this beat.

 

[Mick]

They don’t have a border wall. Maybe they walked in

It's comprised of islands.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Your baseline though is the US, which is basically the wild west when it comes to guns.

Wild west. True. I found an AR15 lower in my closet. No idea where it came from.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Wild west. True. I found an AR15 lower in my closet. No idea where it came from.

That happens to me at times also. I'm like, where did that come from?

 

[FLVOL_79]

That happens to me at times also. I'm like, where did that come from?

Yep. Then I build a new ar15.

 

[Grand Vol]

That happens to me at times also. I'm like, where did that come from?

I give those poor things a good and loving home.

 

[theFallGuy]

Your baseline though is the US, which is basically the wild west when it comes to guns.

wild west? stop being dramatic

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

You have encouraged his idiocy for too long to act surprised at his comments.

I am very surprised. But certainly not surprised by yours. I am sure the very first thing you thought of when you saw this was Trump. Your grade school logic is on full display.

 

[0nelilreb]

She didn't have a message about actual policy so it must be a vote for Party or the Anti-Trump vote.

You left out a very big chunk that wanted to make her the first woman president “ glass ceiling “ and all that .

 

[golfballs]

It is absurd to say that this is Trump's fault. At worst, at most, all you can say is that there are shared sentiments between the "movement" that would spark this and political divisions that yielded Trump's victory. So again, Trump is better characterized as a symptom, not a cause. And only in the furthest comparison.

Good lord

 

[McDad]

No, he actually is or was. Recently, I have not seen him say and do things that would add to the problem.

Imma gonna put your notion into party/president context:

Did Bill Clinton legitimize BJs?

Did BHO legitimize racial unrest?

Did Ronald Reagan legitimize nuclear war?

That's what others say (have said) about those presidents. If you disagree with any of those, reevaluate your notion of DJT. Then, hug your family and send me $50.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I give those poor things a good and loving home.

Be careful! You never know when they'll go rogue. They're very unpredictable and could go on a shooting spree.

 

[theFallGuy]

Does anyone know how the guns were acquired by a foreigner?

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